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Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:23 AM

Boehner On Going Over Cliff: There’s ‘A Chance’

Source: TPM



PEMA LEVY 10:15 AM EST, SUNDAY DECEMBER 2, 2012

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said there's "a chance" the country will not reach a deal in time to avert the fiscal cliff, during an interview on "Fox News Sunday."

"There's clearly a chance," Boehner said, responding to host Chris Wallace's question on the likelihood of going over.

Boehner continued: "I might be an easy guy to get along with, affable, obviously I've worked in a bipartisan way on a number of agreements. But I'm gonna tell you one thing, Chris. I'm determined to solve our debt problem. We have a serious spending problem and it is going to be dealt with. "

"I'm gonna do everything I can to avert that," Boehner said of the cliff. "But we are going to solve America's debt problem."

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Reply Boehner On Going Over Cliff: There’s ‘A Chance’ (Original post)
DonViejo Dec 2012 OP
Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #1
Flashmann Dec 2012 #2
Myrina Dec 2012 #11
heaven05 Dec 2012 #3
Historic NY Dec 2012 #4
William Seger Dec 2012 #5
julian09 Dec 2012 #6
onehandle Dec 2012 #7
AlbertCat Dec 2012 #8
John2 Dec 2012 #9
Myrina Dec 2012 #10
DWinNJ Dec 2012 #12
bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #13
Smilo Dec 2012 #14
Gregorian Dec 2012 #15
pjijoc Dec 2012 #16
SoapBox Dec 2012 #17
Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #18
bhikkhu Dec 2012 #19
SoapBox Dec 2012 #20
John2 Dec 2012 #21
RickFromMN Dec 2012 #22
Kablooie Dec 2012 #23

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:28 AM

1. Boner can stick it up his nose

at the same time he's sticking it up his ass.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:38 AM

2. We have a serious spending problem

No,Bonehead..We have a serious REVENUE problem.........

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:09 PM

11. To be fair, we do have a spending problem ...

... spending on corporate welfare and the military. Boehner's free to suggest cuts to those programs at any time.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:51 AM

3. bullshit

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:23 AM

4. So John whats the plan??????????

tax cut for the rich....FAIL

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:32 AM

5. We've GOT a solution, Bonehead!

It just doesn't fit your Feed the Greed agenda.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:33 AM

6. Gop added two wars, two Bush tax cuts, medicare drug program

 

without paying for any of them. The middle class has been losing ground for years on income, while the 2% gained exponentially.
The money the middle class didn't get, obviously can not be taxed. The money the 2% did get, at the expense of 98% is taxed at a
low rate. That and capital gains rate of 15% doesn't add the revenue needed to treasury. The Gop aim to starve the beast in order cut or end new deal programs, is a strategy not a solution for debt reduction. Gop obsession with defense spending, is only matched by their obstruction of infrastructure spending. They may succeed in reducing fed tax, only to increase tax burden on states, with less money coming from federal govt.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:38 AM

7. Oh, go get your spray tan touched up. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:54 AM

8. will not reach a deal in time to avert the fiscal cliff,

Ohs Noes!

Well, it's may be the best way to show everyone there IS NO CLIFF.

A series of steps is not a cliff.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:59 AM

9. If he wanted

 

to solve something, then he should have ran for President with his issues. He doesn't have a national mandate for anything. His constituents that he calls small Business, are his doners like Goldman Sachs. I wish somebody like Rachel, Al, Laurence or Ed would get hold of what really is behind Boehner and his push for Spending cuts so hard. This guy had a meeting in his office with Bush's Treasury Secretary and Bernanke right before he pushed the TARP Bailout for Banks. He was one of the primary guys pushing that Bailout for them. One of the reasons Boehner has stayed in office so long, is he gets plenty of spending goodies for his District in Ohio, which happens to be 90 percent White. He keeps them happy and they keep sending him back to Congress. This is a mainly rural District, which gets Farm subsidies too, mainly because of Boehner. He keeps them happy, while he really is pushing an agenda for Wall Street. This guy has also made millions while he has been in Congress. That is because he has a lot of connections on Wall Street.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:08 PM

10. Good, because it's NOT a fucking CLIFF.

It just means when the new Congress moves in on Jan 21, they can do some real work to address the middle and working class tax situation, and reduce the over-bloated defense budget .... which anyone with 3 active brain cells knows needs to happen.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:24 PM

12. It’s the Bush tax cuts

That are going to expire, as originally designed by the republicans. So the tax increase is the republicans’ fault.

The republicans are refusing to stop the tax increase on 98% of Americans, so the tax increase is the republicans’ fault.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:28 PM

13. Boehner sees himself as bipartisan????????

Delusional.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:35 PM

14. Boehner and the rest of the GOP are standing on the edge of the cliff

I say let's push them over - their ignorance and arrogance regarding their failed way of economic doctrine is done.

Boehner you are doing nothing except dig your heels in and shout loud - how about these -

The MIC can take a big hit with regard to cuts and should.
The tax cuts should expire - yes it will hurt me and mine, but I am willing to be hurt a little so that this country can get back on its feet.
Farm subsidies are going to the corporations not to the small farmers - this should stop.
And on and on and on - there are a lot of areas that cuts can be made Boehner and "solve" our debt problem - which may I remind you was brought about by a Republican who failed to include two wars and a medicare scam on the books.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:42 PM

15. AND THE POST OFFICE JUST HAPPENS TO BE BROKE. More bullshit from they crybaby criminals.

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:03 PM

16. Smoke Boehner.

This man is a classic example of what is wrong in a America.

A crybaby that is ONLY concerned with keeping his Speakership.

It will allow......More perks, limos, golf and alcohol for the tan man.

Smoke him....get rid of this poor example of a mooch.

Do not work with him....lets go cliff diving!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:20 PM

17. Yes, Yes, Yes....let it go.

And then start with the basics.

Pentagon (!!!!!), Corporate tax breaks, tax rates for the 1%...

and, yes I'll say it, put the Social Security rate BACK to where it was! This is one point that just GETS my goat! The rate was reduced for the EMPLOYEE contribution portion but the match by the EMPLOYERS was left the same...it was fine for a while, but to keep SS on track and well funded WE workers need to get that rate back to where it was before and pay it. Period.

FYI...for those that don't know (and I work with TONS of folks that don't know)...SS and Medicare, what you see as deducted from your paycheck stub is MATCHED by your employer! (other than the current situation now with SS, where the rate that the employee/WE pay in was reduced but the employer contributes the full original rate.)

Medicare has NO gross earnings limit for contributions (no matter how much you earn, you AND your employer will continue to pay the contribution). SS for 2013 has a wage earnings LIMIT of $113,700...when you reach that much in earnings, you and your employer no longer contribute to the fund.

For 2013:

Employee's Contribution...
Social Security: 6.2% on your first $113,700 of wages
Medicare: 1.45% on all your wages
Total FICA: 7.65% maximum

Employer's Contribution...
Social Security: 6.2% on your first $113,700 of wages
Medicare: 1.45% on all your wages
Total FICA: 7.65% maximum

Combined Contributions (you and your employer)
Social Security: 12.4% on your first $113,700 of wages
Medicare: 2.9% on all your wages
Total FICA: 15.3% maximum

You can check the deduction rates for previous years as well, using the link below.
http://www.moneychimp.com/features/fica.htm

I will always say, the reason all these Corporate Crook types want SS and Medicare "reforms" is...they want to reduce or eliminate THEIR contribution to those accounts! Plain and Simple! And all under the disguise that we have no money for these "entitlements"!

I say, let the cliff come and then deal...of course, that is all hoping that DEMS don't cave!

For your reading and ed-u-ma-cation:

"What is a FICA Limit?"

http://www.ehow.com/info_8389626_fica-limit.html

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:29 PM

18. It will be Boehner's fault

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:09 PM

19. I wonder how many of those guys are shorting US Treasury bonds

...as one reason that the debt is not such an issue is that our economy is rated among the strongest in the world, and our currency the most secure, so we pay practically no interest on Treasury bonds. All the hoopla and propaganda and doom-speak from the repugs about the whole issue seems designed to lower confidence and undercut our credit, which would quickly lead to higher interest rates.

I wouldn't put it past those guys to be planning to make some serious money off the whole thing.

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Response to bhikkhu (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:25 PM

20. Oh I SO agree...

I'm sure that the Banksters are plotting and scheming as fast as all their computers will allow.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:37 PM

21. Someone needs

 

to tell Mr Boehner, that President Obama will still be here until January of 2017, but I don't think some of his Pals will be around that long. Don't he think, he better do some work? And if the GOP don't change their ways, the way the country is going, your Party is in danger of irrelevancy. And you just got that speakership in 2010. You will go down as the worse Speaker in charge of the worse Congress in U.S. history. Your Party needs to quit its extremist attitude and come to the middle. The voters demand you do so, if you really know who is Boss. Raising the age of Social Security and cutting Medicare, want do it. 68 percent of the country, including Republicans, says keep your hands off. You can listen to that two percent all you want but their taxes are going up. Even Bill Crystol figured it out.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:44 PM

22. Chance nothing! There's a certainty we will go over the fiscal cliff.


There's a certainty we will have a big fight over raising the debt limit.

Time for President Obama to make a list of programs to freeze during sequestration.
Hope President Obama's list of programs to freeze is heavy on Republican sacred cows.

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Response to RickFromMN (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:27 PM

23. I doubt it.

The GOP will cave the last minute.
They will be hurt much more than the Democrats if all taxes go up and the military budget is slashed.
And they will have to work 10 times as hard to try and bring back the tax cuts that they will lose.

It's all bravado to try and scare up support right now.
They will cave and scream like little babies having a tantrum at the last minute.

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