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Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:19 PM

Report: Pollard collapses in prison, hospitalized

Source: YNet

The Committee to Free Jonathan Pollard reported Saturday that he collapsed in prison over the weekend and had to be hospitalized.

Pollard, 58, who is serving a life sentence for espionage, has reportedly been experiencing pain for several weeks, but it is still unknown whether it was the cause for his hospitalization.



Read more: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4314064,00.html



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Reply Report: Pollard collapses in prison, hospitalized (Original post)
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 OP
Botany Dec 2012 #1
USMCMustang Dec 2012 #4
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #8
MFuentes Dec 2012 #15
marble falls Dec 2012 #32
marble falls Dec 2012 #2
USMCMustang Dec 2012 #7
cpwm17 Dec 2012 #12
MFuentes Dec 2012 #17
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #13
MFuentes Dec 2012 #18
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #26
Nika Dec 2012 #40
grantcart Dec 2012 #42
marble falls Dec 2012 #31
SCVDem Dec 2012 #3
USMCMustang Dec 2012 #5
jberryhill Dec 2012 #9
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #11
MFuentes Dec 2012 #16
2naSalit Dec 2012 #6
MFuentes Dec 2012 #20
The Second Stone Dec 2012 #10
1ProudAtheist Dec 2012 #14
MFuentes Dec 2012 #19
atreides1 Dec 2012 #21
kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #22
cpwm17 Dec 2012 #23
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #30
The Second Stone Dec 2012 #43
secondvariety Dec 2012 #24
TomClash Dec 2012 #25
secondwind Dec 2012 #27
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #28
Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #29
byeya Dec 2012 #33
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #34
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #36
Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #37
Drum Dec 2012 #38
byeya Dec 2012 #41
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #35
Tom Ripley Dec 2012 #39

Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:29 PM

1. Pollard sold out this country for money.

F*** him. And F*** the Israelis who recruited and paid him too.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:14 AM

8. Not only are you wrong, you're extremely abusive to a DUer with no reason.

This is detailed account of his treachery, including his cowardly Israeli paymasters:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070323120858/http://cryptome.sabotage.org/traitor.htm

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:15 AM

32. So he gets out because his paymasters were cowards? Nope. He just plain gets to serve his time .....

like all traitors should, pansy paymasters or not.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:50 PM

2. He does not get out early. If he really did what he did on pinciple then he understands this.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:09 AM

7. He Did It On Principle

 

The principle that he turned over info that was supposed to have been turned over by agreement. The US (Weinburger hated Jews like some posters here). Remember the Beirut bombing.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:51 AM

12. You're full of it

He took some of the most important secrets of the US, some of which were only of value to the Soviets. This is a million times more serious than what Bradley Manning took – the same Bradley Manning that you strongly condemn.

Israel appears to have traded the documents to the Soviets.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:13 AM

13. "Weinburger hated Jews like some posters here"

Sick. More sick from you.



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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:55 AM

18. Blind

 

Is right.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:56 AM

26. says his side

 

The government says he turned over far more.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:08 PM

40. This spy should rot and find his natural death in prison.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:21 PM

42. and he was a cocaine addict on principle too? He was a spy wannabe that was always on the edge of


being thrown out for his bizarre behavior.

You are aware that he has renounced his US citizenship, right?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

31. Then he understands being a prisoner of conscience. We empty Gitmo long before he gets out.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:27 AM

9. He should have been executed for what he did

And that has nothing to do with religion. He was paid by a foreign government to provide them with classified information from the inside, and should have been made a harsher example.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:45 AM

11. I was going to make the statement earlier that the leak of...

...the entire 10-volume RAISIN manual, alone, would generally be cause enough for execution.

Serious question: If you're familiar with the case, etc., do you think that's hyperbole?

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:09 AM

6. Tattle tale sign

Last edited Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:40 AM - Edit history (1)

that this could be a ruse is to understand who is campaigning for his release.

On edit: Wow, I guess I shouldn't try to type in a poorly lit room!

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:59 AM

20. And

 

Who campaigned to keep him locked up? When you have an agreement to provide info, you should provide it. I am not saying the US should kiss Israeli ass, but facts are facts.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:34 AM

10. Walker, Ames, Hansen and Pollard

can all die in prison. It has nothing to do with their religion, it has to do with them being traitors.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:17 AM

14. All Of Those Mentioned Combined

 

Didn't do 1/10th of the damage to this country that The Village Idiot and his National Dick did. When you start talking about people who should die in prison, those 2 and several of their band of coherts are on the absolute top of that list.

I am not trying to in any way deminish the severity of the treasonous acts of those that you mentioned, but merely to point out that while some have been tried and convicted, others have gotten off scott free. There is no sense of equal justice in matters of National disgraces.

Sorry for the rant, but I get all steamed up when I think of those pukes walking the streets of America as if they did nothing illegal, immoral, or just plain wrong.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:57 AM

19. True

 

They should. But the hatred toward Pollard raises questions. You are the only one who brought up the others.

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Response to MFuentes (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:32 AM

21. I don't hate any of them

In order to hate a person you have to know that person, I don't know any of these men...nor do I care to. I hate what they did

I think the problem is that in some circles Mr. Pollard is considered to be some kind of hero, and those people are willing to look past his treason because of the fact that he's Jewish and they actually believe that he did what he did purely for nobel reasons!

Pollard was paid to provide information to a foreign government, just like Walker, Hansen, and Ames were...and just like those men he will have to remain in prison for the rest of his life...for the crime he committed.





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Response to atreides1 (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:51 AM

22. And remain in US prison. Not sent to Israel to server out his term. nt

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Response to MFuentes (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:00 AM

23. Pollard was responsible for one of the worst intelligence loses in US history

for the country that receives more support than any other in US history: Israel. This is consistent with the US/Israel relationship, so Americans have a right to hold Pollard and Israel in contempt.

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Response to MFuentes (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:15 AM

30. There is a contempt for the request that he be freed

Notice that there is no such ongoing campaign for the others.

That's what you're registering.

“Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”

- Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Response to MFuentes (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 05:50 PM

43. The topic of the thread is Pollard, the others are extra examples

and nobody needs to bring them up to be fair to Pollard. Pollard is getting the same treatment as other traitor spies. I see a lot of defensiveness on behalf of Pollard in this thread. That is disgusting. Pollard is a traitor who should serve his full term. The people who think Pollard is being pilloried or treated badly in this thread should have their own loyalties examined. Pollard gets no slack from me. He is a traitor.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:13 AM

24. Pollard is the worst sort of traitor-

he sold his country out for money.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:39 AM

25. Some posters need to be reminded of what he did

He SOLD (no principle here) the manual for the entire U.S. electronic surveillance network to Israel. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Response to TomClash (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:08 AM

27. NO sympathy.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:11 AM

28. Yes, when you are sentenced to life in prison, you experience your health problems there

Why is this particular news?

Is it because we're still supposed to release this traitor at some point for some reason?

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:11 AM

29. First time I've heard of him... but after reading the Wikipedia article... glad he's locked up. nt

 

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:21 AM

33. I've been told Pollard is the check point for the intelligence community. If a president

 

allows him to go to Israel, then that president will greatly offend the intelligence agencies.
This was a number of years ago when I was told this twice without even thinking of bringing up the topic(of which I know little) but these two agents, instructors at the time, brought it up on their own.
Apparently the intel agencies were(are?) upset at the near free hand Mossad has been given within our borders.
Who knows? Why would they tell members of a LE refresher class this at break time unless they were exercised about it?

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Response to byeya (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:13 PM

34. If you take a few min. to read this piece by Seymour Hersh...

...from The New Yorker, you'll have a pretty good idea why the agents brought it up on their own:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070323120858/http://cryptome.sabotage.org/traitor.htm

It's a length but incredibly informative piece on the matter.

And, for after you've read it: How incredibly fucked is that? It's amazing that just one person could fuck over America that hard.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:59 PM

36. He should have been executed

 

If you believe in the death penalty (which I don't).

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:16 PM

37. Offhandedly I was going to say that, too, last night and for...

...some reason thought it might've been hyperbole. But, really, thinking on it today I think it's pretty open and shut for just the things which the public knows he did. Of course, as Hersh's sources intone, one of the reasons they may have steered things away from execution is that they believe there was more than one mole in the intelligence infrastructure and possibly hoped by keeping him alive they could get him to eventually reveal other traitors.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:46 PM

38. Thanks for that link.

Looking fwd to reading this, I admire Hersh's work.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:12 PM

41. Thank you very much for the link. I've read Sy Hersh for years and believe what

 

he writes. Had not seen this piece before.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:29 PM

35. For those of you screaming about Manning

Here is the real deal, Jonathan Pollard did actually endanger US Personnel while in the field and National Security.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:53 PM

39. You couldn't pay me to have sympathy for him (but then again I'm not Pollard)

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