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Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:33 AM

Palestinian statehood bid has no support from Canada

Source: Toronto Star

In the West Bank centre of Ramallah on Wednesday, crowds hoisted pictures of Prime Minister Stephen Harper with a canine face superimposed on his, and the slogan “This dog doesn’t hunt,” after Harper warned of “consequences” if Abbas didn’t abandon his bid for a UN vote.

In a news conference Wednesday, Harper said Canada believes a two-state solution “will not be accomplished . . . unless and until the Palestinian Authority returns to the negotiating table and is able to get a comprehensive peace agreement with Israel.”

Foreign Minister John Baird later warned in the House of Commons that the statehood bid could affect relations with Canada — which supplies diminishing funds to the UN agency aiding Palestinians.

Meanwhile on Wednesday, heavyweights China and India, along with France, Spain, Norway, Denmark, Austria and Switzerland, backed the Palestinian vote. Britain and Australia were likely to abstain, and Germany and Netherlands to vote “no” with Canada and the U.S.

Read more: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1294745--palestinian-statehood-bid-has-no-support-from-canada

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Reply Palestinian statehood bid has no support from Canada (Original post)
oberliner Nov 2012 OP
Ash_F Nov 2012 #1
x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #2
underoath Nov 2012 #8
joshcryer Nov 2012 #4
Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #3
Stewland Nov 2012 #5
JDPriestly Nov 2012 #6
happyslug Nov 2012 #11
JDPriestly Nov 2012 #16
slackmaster Nov 2012 #7
dawn frenzy adams Nov 2012 #9
oberliner Nov 2012 #10
leftynyc Nov 2012 #12
Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #13
cali Nov 2012 #14
oberliner Nov 2012 #15

Response to oberliner (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:35 AM

1. Do they think the US will give them a cookie now? /nt

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:36 AM

2. Or start caring about hockey?

 

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Response to x2 vancouverite (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:14 AM

8. I care about hockey!!!!

 

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:53 AM

4. They will likely abstain, as they have done for ages.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:39 AM

3. Interesting.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:09 AM

5. Zionists running Canadian foreign policy?

 

Zionist pressures upon Canada too. In the long run Israel must get along with its neighbors or perish.

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Response to Stewland (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:51 AM

6. People who want a negotiated and enforced peace in the

Middle East are in charge in Canada, the UK, Germany and the US.

The Palestinians have to go to the negotiating table like other civilized countries and negotiate in good faith, meaning enforce agreements within their own country, if they want to join the United Nations.

Palestinians have two problems: they don't negotiate in good faith, and they don't enforce agreements on their within their own boundaries.

You can't claim to be a nation among other nations unless you can speak for your people.

You may be able to criticize Israeli policies toward the Palestinians, but the Israeli government takes responsibility for those policies. It does not hide behind kids with rocks. It does not permit its citizens to violate treaties and then throw up its hands as if it is helpless.

When the Palestinians are able to establish a responsible government with which others can negotiate, then it will be received as a nation among nations. Not until then.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:13 PM

11. So you support Hamas?

Israel has to negotiated with someone who has support in the West Bank, and that means the PLO or Hamas. Right now Abbas is losing to Hamas even in the West Bank, he needs to show the Palestinians in the West Bank he can do SOMETHING FOR THEM, and right night now that is the UN status. If Abbas fails to get that, he loses critical support from the Palestinians in the West Bank. Thus, it looks more and more that if he loses this Statehood move, he is gone and that leaves Hamas. Thus to state that Israel should NOT talk to Abbas till he withdraws his petition for UN recognition, is the same as saying Israel has to talk to Hamas. Which do you want, to talk to the PLO or Hamas, there is no other choice.

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Response to happyslug (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:35 PM

16. I think Israel should talk to the representatives who are willing

to talk in good faith and to enforce agreements that are entered into. First step on both sides is to stop the violence whether by civilians or organized military.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:52 AM

7. It's good to see that our neighbors in the Great White North have some backbone, eh?

 

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:22 AM

9. How did the Canadians end of with Harper?

Harper is a an a evangelical Christian. He has found comradery among the extreme right-wing christian element in Canada. Their views of course, is the same about Israel as our own Christian Taliban

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Response to dawn frenzy adams (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:58 AM

10. Their views on Israel are actually the same as Obama's

He is hardly "Christian Taliban".

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Response to oberliner (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:19 PM

12. Same as Pres Obama's AND

the majority of Americans.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:35 PM

13. After a successful decades-long propaganda campaign, Israel can shoot babies on live TV...

 

And get support.

Hell, they just did.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:00 PM

14. what? When did Israel shoot babies on live TV?

and let it be noted just as there are those who support horrible Israeli acts, I've seen plenty of support and defense of horrible acts on the part of Hamas- quite a few here on DU; including support for the lynching of suspected collaborators.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:39 PM

15. Most countries have the decency to make sure there are no TV cameras around

when they kill civilians.

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