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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:15 PM

 

Top Romney Adviser Brags About Losing Poor, Minority Voters To Obama

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Source: Yahoo

Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least he won the voters who really count.

That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.

"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens wrote. "That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by seven points, a 17-point shift."

According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican ideals -- Mitt Romney -- carried the day."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/top-romney-adviser-brags-losing-poor-minority-voters-180955828--politics.html



On the day before the loser has lunch with our President--a President who is one of us non-whites who don't count, any more than those making under $50,000 per year.

Stay classy, Romney campaign!

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Reply Top Romney Adviser Brags About Losing Poor, Minority Voters To Obama (Original post)
TPaine7 Nov 2012 OP
truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #1
peacebird Nov 2012 #3
HockeyMom Nov 2012 #44
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roguevalley Nov 2012 #50
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hrmjustin Nov 2012 #7
JaneQPublic Nov 2012 #8
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Aristus Nov 2012 #10
brewens Nov 2012 #51
OldEurope Dec 2012 #75
cosmicone Nov 2012 #11
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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:19 PM

1. I'm in that category, and he didn't get my vote.

All of my close friends are in that category, and he didn't get their votes either. He got a bunch of rural punkin-head votes. Farmers who get a lot of gubmint subsidies.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:23 PM

3. They are really desperate, no?

Fwiw, we are also in that group and voted for Obama....

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:31 PM

44. Same here from a White, Married Woman

I had to restrain myself from smashing my TV whenever I saw Queen Ann on there.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:55 AM

55. Queen Ann

 

I'm a man, but I'm with you 100%. I am so very glad that she and her horse and her husband (in that order! ) shall gradually fade onto, yea verily, the dimming twilight of political history.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:39 PM

50. money and pigment make superior morality. Amazing.

I am thinking how stupid and unthinking it was for the oligarchs to embrace the second amendment. Given that there are about 330m people in America and about 390m guns lying around, when people get tired of eating dirt there will be hell to pay. And it won't be hard to find them. They live in the big houses.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:22 PM

2. Have they counted how many racist votes Romney got?

Was it 100% of them?

That was his big card he was playing NOT the classes.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:27 PM

4. Obviously telling themselves...

...whatever they have to in order to help them sleep at night.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:28 PM

5. And here I was thinking Romney lost

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:36 PM

6. This guy must work for CNN

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:40 PM

33. +1,000

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:39 PM

7. I guess he does not like winning.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:03 PM

8. Romney was aiming for voter "quality," not voter "quantity."

Unfortunately, the only way to win under that system is either to (a) weight the votes of the more desireable citizens as being worth double or triple those of the "commoners"; or (b) revert to the old system where only white, land-owning aristocrats are allowed to vote.

Apart from that, Mr. Snooty-Pants can forget about ever winning any elective office.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:03 PM

9. OMG!!! These were the ELITES

Remember when Newt ran all over the country, and Rush complained
on his Hot Air Machine, about all the Democrats were ELITES!!!

Washington Elites!! ELITES! ELITES who wanted to protect parks
from development, acting as DECIDERS for the rest of America!

Now it turns out Mitt was appealing to his own ELITES!!!

Mitt, and the GOP, ELITE PANDERERS!

Too hypocritical, too funny, too pathetic for words.

ELITES. ROFLMAO

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:08 PM

10. I'm a white, middle-aged Christian male who makes a respectable salary well above

the cut-off mark mentioned by this guy, and nothing could ever induce me to vote for Romney or his ilk.

Maybe I voted for President Obama because I'm, you know, smart...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:50 PM

51. You realize that Romney's way could eventually lead to you losing everything you have.

That's what they don't get. If they really want to see the end of the system they love, push things too far knocking working people down. If too many people get screwed, even the half-wits will turn on them. Then the shit hits the fan and stays hit!

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Response to brewens (Reply #51)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:18 PM

75. But to realize this...

..you need a certain level of intelligence and knowledge. The really wealthy donīt have that. Because they do not have to be intelligent or work hard to get their degrees and get wealthy. They just inherit. There are some rich people with brains, but they did never support the Republican Party, at least since Nixon got unmasked.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:25 PM

11. It's the TOTAL VOTES stupid

There is no victory in carrying dwarf people, fat people, people with birthmarks, geminis, virgos or stupid people unless one has more votes in total state-by-state.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:25 PM

12. Romney won? So when is his inauguration?

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:20 PM

30. Romney's presidential inauguration ..

is the twelfth of NEVER

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:24 PM

62. Two days after the heat death of the universe.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:33 PM

13. So the key to Republican victory is democratic economic policy

 

Tough position for the republicans: only rich people vote for them and their trickle down policies make everyone poor.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:42 PM

14. I am 40, white, a teacher, and I voted for OBAMA

my first DU post ever as well, although I have been following since Sept.

I agree- this is a 'class' act coming from the RMoney campaign. Nothing classy at all really. Part of Romnesia still at work- if I recall they lost the election.

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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:01 PM

15. welcome to DU

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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:26 PM

21. Welcome to DU!

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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:46 PM

22. A teacher! AND joining DU!

Outstanding! Welcome!






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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:04 PM

24. Welcome to DU

We work as a team.

There are so many brilliant political
members here.

Enjoy!

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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:47 PM

36. Welcome to DU!

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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:07 PM

38. Welcome to DU.

Obama did it for me in 2008!

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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:46 PM

41. Welcome!!

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Response to RWilliam (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:56 PM

47. Welcome to DU, and here's a song for you...



someone else made a pro-Obama type video with the song

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:15 PM

16. So really, rich voters are the moral high?! You mean those who steal, enslave and cheat

in order to have more than their neighbor has the moral high ground?! Really?!

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:16 PM

17. that and a nickle will get you a steaming hot cup of jack shit..

enjoy your "moral victory," assholes. we got scoreboard!

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:19 PM

18. Over 2700 responses to that piece in less than 3 hours on yahoo.

Most were people who voted for PBO. Don't tell me he doesn't have a mandate!

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Response to japple (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:57 PM

48. Huh, i thought Yahoo comments sections=Free Republic lite.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #48)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:37 PM

63. Did you read any of the comments?

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Response to japple (Reply #63)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:19 PM

65. Not after this article,

but in my experience and from what I've read elsewhere on DU, Yahoo comments & comments sections after other nonpartisan news sites are DOMINATED with the latest RW spin from talk radio or Fox Non-News.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:19 PM

19. The voters that really count?

The ones that made him LOSE? LOL.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:23 PM

20. These people are sociopaths. Unreal. n/t

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:52 PM

23. I don't understand that under-30 figure

Obama only took 60% of the under-30 vote this time, compared to 66% in 2008 -- but he still beat Romney among those voters by 24 points. So how could Romney have been ahead among white voters under 30 by 7 points?

It seems to me that would only work if whites represented less than half of the under-30 voters and went for Romney by an overwhelming majority. Or am I missing something here?

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Response to starroute (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:34 PM

32. Under 30 white voters represented 11 percent of the total electorate

Under 30 African American voters represented 3 percent of the electorate and under 30 Latino voters made up 4 percent. While Romney took the 11 percent group by 7 points, He lost the the 3 percent group 83 points and the 4 percent group by over 50 points. A quick simple example shows how focusing on young white voters is a losing strategy. If the electorate had 1000 voters, Romney would have taken 56 votes from under 30 whites, 2 votes from under 30 AAs, and 9 votes from under thirty Latinos (a total of 67 votes). Obama, on the other hand, grabs 48 under 30 whites, 27 under 30 AAs and 29 under 30 Latinos for a total of 104 votes.

Given that the part of the electorate represented by under 30 white is almost certainly going to be in decline compared to the share of under 30 AA and Latino (and Asian) voters, Romney's strategist's strategy is the equivalent of investing in the Pony Express.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:05 PM

25. He is trying gloss over

the fact that he ran a terrible campaign. They were delusional up to election night and some are still delusional I see.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:09 PM

26. Under 50,000 is considered poor now?

Wow... I have made way over 50,000 a year as a technical writer. But I wanted to do something more worthwhile, and became an R.N. at a state-run hospital. I don't consider my self 'poor', even though I make less than 50,000 right now as a new nurse in a nonprofit, unionized job. Granted, most R.N.s make a lot more than me. But to consider 50,000 a year 'poor'? I'm glad I don't fit into his desired demographic. Even if I did, I would NEVER vote for someone like Mitt Romney!

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:13 PM

27. He actually used the word 'moral'???

These ol' boys got a long, long, long way to fall, eh?

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:14 PM

28. "Life would be a ding-a-derry, if I only had a brain!"

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:18 PM

29. I think that what really matters is who wins the election.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:28 PM

31. Considering that $50,000 per year is the median income in the US ...

... half of the "middle class" would be earning less than that. His conclusion that they won "the majority of middle-class voters" is in no way proven by these statistics, and is almost certainly false.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:45 PM

34. Filed under: Things losers say.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:45 PM

35. Not since the last time Dick Morris picked up a pen have I read anything as delusional

and self-pitying as Stevens' op-ed. My favorite part (other than his absurd notion that winning young white voters by 7 point while losing young non-white voters by an average of around 70 points is a good thing for repubs) is his declaration that no one in the "professional political class" thought Romney had a snowball's chance in hell of winning the repub nomination. The truth is that Romney was from the start to the finish the repub establishment's candidate and while their confidence was shaken by his abysmal showing in the early days of the primaries, they always were behind him. As for Romney convincing the voters not the political class? Well, that's a laugh. It wasn't until the last batch of primaries in April (after most of his competition had thrown in the towel because they lacked the money) that Romney consistently began to win 50 percent or more of the primary vote. Heck, on Super Tuesday, he only got 38 percent of the vote. The rest was split amongst a bunch of unelectable clowns. Same thing in the mid-March primaries -- Romney couldn't attract even 40 percent of the repub primary voters.

He was the choice of the establishment, but not of the crazies that come out to vote in primaries. What saved him was that the crazies flitted from one nutjob (Cain! Bachmannn! Newt!! Santorum!!) after another and didn't rally behind just one of them.

Pathetic. Stevens will be the source of much laughter in DC tomorrow morning.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:59 PM

37. Did Romney really Win White Voters under 30 ?

that is disappointing. i know OBama lost the older crowd but thought he would have won the younger ones.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:54 AM

61. Only because of the Deep South.

When you take the South out of the equation, most under 30 whites voted for Obama.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:36 PM

39. Statistics.

The less than $50,000 per year group has grown thanks to GOP economic policies. It's the GOP that helped Obama win the election.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:41 PM

40. Unfortunatly for Mitt,

a poor person's vote counts the same as a rich person's vote.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:50 PM

42. this

is bs. what pathetic(loser) people.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:20 PM

43. yeah, too bad the Repukes have created so many folks that now are under $50K a year huh?

asshole.

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Response to NMDemDist2 (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:00 PM

64. +1. Funny how that works.... nt

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:11 PM

45. Another diapatch from the Bubble

n/t

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:53 PM

46. ARRRGH GO AWAY YOU ROMNEY LOSERS!

Get over it, you lost the election, most Americans don't care about Romney anymore. Not even in 2016, 2020, and beyond.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:00 AM

52. Loser brags beat Loser John McCain

Still Losers

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:18 AM

53. So, rich White people are worthier and more noble?



Is Romney gonna pay for own lunch tomorrow to prove he's not "a taker"? What a lowlife.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:25 AM

54. When you shrink the middle class...

starve it to nothing and then brag about winning a majority of a minority...

you might be a republican!

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:28 AM

56. See those nasty skidmarks on his face?

He meant to put them there when he landed on his face.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:41 AM

57. IF Romney had...


Produced a plan to raise every household income to $50,000 or more he would have got every single vote.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:05 AM

58. whites outbirthing minorities

Well, it's a darn good thing white middle class folks are having babies at a much faster pace than poor minorities are. Looks like the Republicans will be back on the White House before we know it. Like in,..........a hundred years.
Yes, Rummy did well in the South with Republican racists, but not quite so well with the states that Won the Civil War.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:50 AM

59. It took him three weeks to find that needle in the haystack they got buried under

Oh wait, not a needle, just another elitist strawman.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:49 AM

60. The Average household income is

$50,000. So yeah, he just confirmed it....Rmoney only wanted the vote of the upper classes. Average people go screw yourselves, you don't count.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:13 PM

66. REALLY?

Did Stuart Stevens really say that crap? Talk about "OUT OF TOUCH!"

As long as those beliefs guide those fools who ADVISE the GOP, the Democrats are guaranteed a very long reign in the White House.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:31 PM

67. WELL, THIS IS ONE REASON RMONEY GOT WHIPPED GOOD

Ole Stuart Stevens can slice the cake this way and that, but he and his boy got the snot bopped outta their noses. Is Stu intimating that your income should be a factor of how many votes you get? Citizens United and tons of corporado cash just ain't enough? I just hope the American Public hears and remembers what is being said by Rmoney, McCain, Stevens, et al when they step into the polling booth the next several elections. Their true identity is coming through loud and clear. Hey Rethugs, "Foam On!".

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:53 PM

68. I make over 50K, white, mid forties and I voted for Obama, twice.

Am I really that rare? I know lot's of guys that voted just like me, straight Dem ticket.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:39 AM

69. His picture's in the dictionary

under the word dumbass.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:51 AM

70. truth-telling about Republican ideals

Yes, the Republican party "has problems". Namely that they don't recognize, in even the grainiest of detail, that they are loathed by a majority of voting humans. The reason for this is also clear: that majority recognizes that the loathing is mutual. Second, they have gained a reputation for telling Great Lies, and that even cosmetics experts and sleight-of-hand artists like Rove will be hard-pressed to overcome the rich #$%$ history of "kinder and gentler", "compassionate conservative" and "trickle down".

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:33 AM

71. What a fucking tool...you dumbasses shrunk the middle class and made more poor...

Fucking moron.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:56 AM

72. Excellent work.

I approve of his ability to not get Republicans elected. Very nice

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:12 AM

73. Thanks to Mitt, under $50,000 is now the largest group

I guess we now know what will be on Fox for the next four years: 10 minutes on Benghazi, 10 minutes on how Mitt almost won the election with a different guest every time.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:28 AM

74. You know that these folks should not be allowed to vote. That's the real problem.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:23 PM

76. Wait ... $49,000 isn't considered middle class anymore?

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:10 PM

77. Keep rationalizing, Republicans

That way you will continue the slide into utter irrelevance.

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Response to TPaine7 (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:50 PM

78. what he forgot to mention

 

All the scientists - America's best and brightest - who voted for Obama and all the morans populating the vapid, hypocritical mega churches who voted for romney.

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