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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:15 PM

Boehner shoots down proposal to agree to Obama tax demand

Source: The Hill

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and other top Republicans on Wednesday shot down a proposal by a senior GOP lawmaker that the House agree to President Obamas demand to extend current tax rates for the middle class.

Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), a respected party strategist and former chairman of the National Republican Campaign Committee, became the most prominent House Republican to suggest that the GOP do what has long been unthinkable within the party: lock in the George W. Bush-era tax rates for annual incomes up to $250,000 without simultaneously extending them for top earners.

Such a move would amount to a significant victory for Obama in negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff, and Republican leaders said immediately it was a non-starter.

I told Tom earlier in our conference meeting that I disagreed with him, Boehner told reporters after a closed-door meeting of the House Republican Conference. Hes a wonderful friend of mine and a great supporter of mine. But raising taxes on the so-called top 2 percent half of those people are small-business owners that pay their taxes through their personal income tax filing every year. The goal here is to grow the economy and to cut spending.



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/269817-boehner-shoots-down-gop-proposal-to-agree-to-obama-tax-demand

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Reply Boehner shoots down proposal to agree to Obama tax demand (Original post)
Little Star Nov 2012 OP
still_one Nov 2012 #1
sakabatou Nov 2012 #2
coldbeer Nov 2012 #17
Andy823 Nov 2012 #3
A Simple Game Nov 2012 #12
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #15
Thav Nov 2012 #21
Walk away Nov 2012 #4
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #18
RC Nov 2012 #22
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #23
Walk away Nov 2012 #28
thelordofhell Nov 2012 #5
Little Star Nov 2012 #9
demwing Nov 2012 #6
JoePhilly Nov 2012 #26
demwing Nov 2012 #27
wordpix Nov 2012 #7
earthside Nov 2012 #8
John2 Nov 2012 #14
julian09 Nov 2012 #25
avebury Nov 2012 #10
They_Live Nov 2012 #11
Cali_Democrat Nov 2012 #13
Ash_F Nov 2012 #16
loyalkydem Nov 2012 #19
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #20
frylock Nov 2012 #24

Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:16 PM

1. Screw, let the card fall where they will

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

2. Boehner is an egotistic asshole

He'd let the US burn while he plays a fiddle.

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:09 PM

17. Boehner is NERO!!!!

No, that is who Mitch wants to be.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:22 PM

3. Republicans will never agree with the president

The only way to do it is to let "ALL" the Bush tax cuts expire, and then next year go in and push a bill to give those that make under $250,000 the tax breaks again. Keep on putting out a bill to do this till the republicans pass it. The majority of americans want the tax breaks for the rich to end, and if republicans fight this it will be their problem in 2014. We can't back down, and I don't think the president will, I just hope the democrats in congress stand firm on this also!

One way or another the Bush tax cuts for the rich have to go! If republicans in the house won't vote for it, then let them pay the price in 2014.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:56 PM

12. No, not for those making under $250,000.

For everyone on the first $250,000.

We do not discriminate, everyone gets a tax break, even the top 1%!

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:05 PM

15. The gop ...

will only be held to account when/if the Senate Bill has, either been brought to a vote and rejected, or if boehner refuses to bring the Senate Bill to a vote AND Democrats publicize the heck out of his refusal. Otherwise, the public will just see that their taxes went up and assign the blame to "Congress (both sides) and the President."

I think Coleman understands this and by offering the Bill, gets his name on the right side of the battle. In 2014, he can accurately claim, "Hey, don't blame me ... I submitted a Bill that would have prevented your taxes from going up; the rest shouted me down."

Democrats need to introduce the Senate Bill, everyday, while asking republicans why they are not acting, now, to protect the working classes.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:22 PM

21. I agree, Obama should offer a new set of tax cuts while letting's Bush's expire.

I'd love to hear Obama say, "Instead of extending Bush era tax cuts, come up with another package of tax cuts."

Let the Bush tax cuts expire and institute a new set of them.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:23 PM

4. When that tax hits the Pukes will be up against the wall and it will hurt!

They should make the best of it now before the public starts chanting for them to do it daily!

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Response to Walk away (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:12 PM

18. Problem is ...

It just won't hurt the gop ... It'll hurt those making under $250K, when their taxes go up between $2,500 - $10,000; it'll hurt the economy, as that $2,500 - $10,000 that would, with absolute certainty, have gone directly into the economy; it'll hurt the Democrats, since the American people, with the help of the MSM, will assign equal blame to both parties for making their taxes go up.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:09 PM

22. The average income is only 50-60 thousand dollars.

 

When the tax cuts went into effect, my take home only went up $35 a month and I was almost within that range then.
Where is this $2,500 - $10,000 figure coming from? That is just another unsupported number making the rounds, without any solid source.
How much do our Congress critters make a year? That might have some bearing on the numbers.

That said, the cut off for extending the cuts should be $100,000, not $250,000 and the cuts will still cover most of us.

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Response to RC (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:04 PM

23. You must not read many of my posts ...

A typical middle-class family of four will see their taxes rise by about $2,200 as a result of losing the combination of the expanded child credit, marriage penalty relief, and the 10 percent bracket.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/uploads/consumer_report_embargo.pdf


The $10,000 figure was computed by comparing the 1999 and 2011 tax schedules for an income of $249,999.99.

{I rarely cite numbers; but when I do ... I can support them using source documents.}

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:19 PM

28. They will back down in January. If they keep refusing to sign bills...

cutting taxes by $2,500 - $10,000 for 98% of the American people, the republican party will be gone by 2014

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:25 PM

5. Boehner to raise taxes for 98% of the United States

There......fixed the headline

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Response to thelordofhell (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:44 PM

9. That's the way it should read. That's the clear cut truth.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:26 PM

6. The agreement wil eventually be made, but where?

$250K?

$500K?

What figure will the liars in Congress pretend is low enough, but not too low--high enough, but not too high?

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Response to demwing (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:00 PM

26. Maybe you should tell us what the number should be.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:16 PM

27. Is that a trick question?

250k

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:40 PM

7. Boner - always true spokesman of the rich who hired/bribed him

Here's hoping the people vote him out of office next time around

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:42 PM

8. Frame! Frame! Frame!

The President, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, every elected Democrat in Washington and every Party functionary needs to repeat, repeat, repeat the same message: Republican obstructionism is going to raise your taxes.

I tend to believe that message is strong enough, firm enough and loud enough, the Repuglicans will find some way to back down.

But I do think it is critical that Pres. Obama et al., make sure everyone in the nation understand what is at stake ... it's that simple.

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Response to earthside (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:03 PM

14. Well

 

that is the reason this President needs to keep active with the voters and get them involve. The said Congressman, Tom Coleman, works for all voters in his District, and not just any of the Top two percent, if there are that many in his District of Oklahoma.

Look, this is just a matter of educating people and especially in a lot of these red districts. It is historically, the oldest trick in the book, some wealthy people have played. A lot of the Republicans' constituents, just don't have the same interests as the Top two percent, Boehner is protecting. That is why the Republicans need to race bait. If you take that cloak away, then people will see where their interests, really lie. Take Social Security and Medicare for example. When those people, on the lower end of the scale, realize, Boerhner is talking about raising their taxes, just to save millionaires or even people making over $250,000, that is essentially committing suicide, just so they can keep their wealthy life styles. The language, just have to be simplified. You also notice Mitch McConnell criticized Obama about going back to the voters. McConnell doesn't want the President to go around him and talk directly to his constituents.

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Response to John2 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:58 PM

25. This should have been done in last election.

 

We wouldn't need to worry about all the problems created by the tea party. After the 2014 election Obama will be a lame duck, but we should target tea party members starting now.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:49 PM

10. We can only hope that the Republican Party continues

to drive down the highway of self-destruction and annihilation.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:52 PM

11. The message

is that Wealthy Republicans don't support the troops, and hate those less fortunate than themselves. Pass it on.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:59 PM

13. Boner: I told Tom earlier in our conference meeting that I disagreed with him,

In other words, he told Tom that he needs to hold the middle class hostage to get tax cuts for the wealthy.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:06 PM

16. Make it a campaign issue.

REPUBLICANS RAISED YOUR TAXES! All day, everyday. Until we have the house too.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:14 PM

19. Fine

See you in 2014 loser.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:16 PM

20. Boehner...let's go cliff diving....

puts us into a position of power....

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:08 PM

24. these idiots are bound and determined to go down with the ship..

bon voyagee!

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