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Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:46 PM

Idaho lawmaker shares ‘last chance’ idea to elect Romney

Source: Idaho Statesman

A state senator from north-central Idaho is touting a scheme that’s been circulating on tea party blogs, calling for states that supported Mitt Romney to refuse to participate in the Electoral College in a move backers believe would change the election result.

Sen. Sheryl Nuxoll, R-Cottonwood, sent an article out on Twitter headed, “A ‘last chance’ to have Mitt Romney as President in January (it’s still not too late).”

Constitutional scholar David Adler, director of the Andrus Center for Public Policy at Boise State University, said the plan is not “totally constitutional,” as touted in the article, but is instead “a radical, revolutionary proposal that has no basis in federal law or the architecture of the Constitution.”

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(Nuxoll) said, “I think it is very, very sad that we elected our current president, because he is definitely not following (the) Constitution. He is depriving us of our freedoms by all the agencies, and so … what I’m thinking is the states are going to have to stand up for our individual rights and for our collective rights.”


Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/11/27/2360565/lawmaker-shares-last-chance-idea.html



The mainstream media needs to stop pushing the false equivalency narrative that both parties are at equally at fault for the paralysis that is gripping the federal government. The fact of the matter is that the Republican party is filled with folks who frankly do not have a grip on reality. Gone are folks like Jack Kemp who at least acknowledged the existence of poverty, George H.W. Bush who raised taxes in response to the deficit, or even Ronald Reagan who signed the California Environmental Quality Act into law as the Governor of California.

Now, Republicans are operating in an entirely separate Fox News/Limbaugh/Grover Norquist fantasyland where a Republican state legislator who won over 60 percent of the vote can claim that ignoring the results of the Presidential election is necessary because President Obama is "is definitely not following (the) Constitution." It just goes to show you that many Republicans have no sense of irony or hypocrisy. They see no problem in trampling upon the Constitution to save it. Many members of the House would happily plunge the nation into default in order to achieve fiscal responsibility!

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Reply Idaho lawmaker shares ‘last chance’ idea to elect Romney (Original post)
TomCADem Nov 2012 OP
AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #1
liberalmuse Nov 2012 #2
brewens Nov 2012 #3
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #9
jmowreader Nov 2012 #14
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #16
jmowreader Nov 2012 #25
davidpdx Nov 2012 #24
DonRedwood Nov 2012 #10
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #22
madinmaryland Nov 2012 #4
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #5
ButterflyBlood Nov 2012 #6
Gore1FL Nov 2012 #7
cyclezealot Nov 2012 #19
cyclezealot Nov 2012 #20
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #23
NickP Nov 2012 #8
olddad56 Nov 2012 #11
UndahCovah Nov 2012 #12
idahoblue Nov 2012 #13
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #17
jmowreader Nov 2012 #15
LovingA2andMI Nov 2012 #18
DFW Nov 2012 #21
Aerows Nov 2012 #27
DFW Nov 2012 #28
Aerows Nov 2012 #29
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #26

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:50 PM

1. this seems like

an Onion article

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Response to AlGoreRhythms (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:52 PM

2. Today's Republicans

have made "The Onion" irrelevant, sad to say.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:52 PM

3. Thanks Nuxoll! Once again, we're the laughingstock! I know a bunch of her relatives too. n/t

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Response to brewens (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:20 AM

9. as an Idaho expat... cottonwood was mentioned..

not sure where that is... where exactly is this woman from??..thanks!

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:04 AM

14. It's an hour south of Lewiston on US 95

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:22 AM

16. thanks.. born in Pocatello, grew up in Twin Falls

left the state mid 70's

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:37 AM

25. Born in Mountain Home

I then bounced between St. Maries, New Plymouth, Horseshoe Bend and Thayne, Wyoming before finally coming to rest in St. Maries. Then I saw the world and now I live in Coeur d'Alene.

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:40 AM

24. Oregon expat here, I'm in Korea

Where are you?

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Response to brewens (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:21 AM

10. must be hard to be a dem in idaho sometimes!

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Response to DonRedwood (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:29 AM

22. I'd say pretty much impossible since 1980.

When your state won't re-elect Frank Church to the Senate, something has died there.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:53 PM

4. Sheryl is Nuts-all. nt

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:05 AM

5. They need to let go of this.

They lost and they need to go away with some grace. I guess they can not do that.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:08 AM

6. Idiot who doesn't understand the 12th Amendment

The 2/3 quorum refers to the House if convened to elect the President because the Electoral College failed. The EC itself has no set quorum beyond a majority, all Obama needs is 270 EVs, which he gets even if all Romney electors boycott it. Just a stupid sore loser idea.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:17 AM

7. But awesome if it happens

One can only hope some Romney electors don't show up just for the amusement of it all.

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:31 AM

19. Prediction : you are correct

Rogue electors are not uncommon.. With the tea idiots in control of the Gobbers, quite likely many won't show. States like Idaho. Utah , Wyoming, this will probably happen.. Any bets. Maybe 30 votes..
Has Mittens been asked how he feels about this tactic. ?

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:39 AM

20. Thanks Article II, Clause 3.

Again don't count for tea idiots to know their own constitution for which they supposed so revere.
.
.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_2:_Method_of_choosing_electors

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:30 AM

23. Hey...if they want Romney to forfeit most of his electoral votes, fine by me.

n/t.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:19 AM

8. Doesn't matter

It wouldn't change the fact that President Obama still has way past 270 Electoral Votes (332 to be exact), and that Mitt R(Money) failed to barely scratch 200.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:24 AM

11. hence the saying "he is in his own private Idaho".

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:31 AM

12. Remember how the EC actually works

 

Each state has TWO sets of electors--a democratic set and a republican set. So Wyoming for example has three electoral votes, thus six electors, but only the three from the winning party (meaning the party that won the state, not the national) convene for the electoral vote.

For this plan to work, the GOP would have to convince enough democratic electors not to show, which is not likely at all.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:54 AM

13. Yep, that would be Idaho

Love that Constitution except when it gets in the way. My beautiful state is run by a bunch of wackos.

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Response to idahoblue (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:27 AM

17. when i grew up there in the 60's

it had the highest per capita number of birchers in the nation... but still elected Frank Church and Cecil Andrus..

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:13 AM

15. Teabagger Nation, you're going about this all wrong

What you really need to do is to get all the provinces in Canada and Mexico admitted as states in the union. You then need to ship a whole shitload of teabaggers to those places so you'll be able to send Republican electors' votes to the Electoral College. By doing this you should easily be able to come up with more Romney electoral votes than Obama votes, and therefore swing the election in your favor. It's going to be a vast amount of work and you only have two weeks to do it in, so get your asses off the Internet and into gear!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:22 AM

18. Seriously?

And this Woman was elected by individuals somewhere in America?

WOW!

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:39 AM

21. So was Louie Gohmert. So was Michele Bachmann

America is not Denmark. It's a big place. In some parts of our country, you can live your whole adult life without ever encountering a sane person.

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Response to DFW (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:13 AM

27. OMG, I nearly took out my keyboard with iced tea

"In some parts of our country, you can live your whole adult life without ever encountering a sane person."





Now isn't that the truth!

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Response to Aerows (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:42 PM

28. I'm from Texas

We know about stuff like that.

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Response to DFW (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:36 PM

29. I figured with a name like

"DFW" for Dallas/Fort Worth. For what it is worth, I've lived in Houston, and have lived on the Gulf Coast nearly all of my life, currently on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.

Mississippi. Generations have lived here without encountering a sane individual.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:31 AM

26. Destroy the Constitution in order to save it?

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