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Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:43 AM

German Spiegel: "Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation"

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Source: Democrats Ramshield, Daily Kos, Der Spiegel,

A look at our empire in decline through the eyes of the European media...

SPIEGEL: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation: The United States is frittering away its role as a model for the rest of the world. The political system is plagued by an absurd level of hatred, the economy is stagnating and the infrastructure is falling into a miserable state of disrepair.


As an American expat living in the European Union, Iíve started to see America from a different perspective through the prism of the European media.

The European Union has a larger economy and more people than America does. Though it spends less -- right around 9 percent of GNP on medical, whereas we in the U.S. spend close to between 15 to 16 percent of GNP on medical -- the EU pretty much insures 100 percent of its population.

The U.S. has 59 million people medically uninsured; 132 million without dental insurance; 60 million without paid sick leave; 45 million on food stamps. Everybody in the European Union has cradle-to-grave access to universal medical and a dental plan by law. The law also requires paid sick leave; paid annual leave; paid maternity leave. When you realize all of that, it becomes easy to understand why many Europeans think America has gone insane, particularly as 2 million long-term unemployed Americans are getting ready to lose their jobless benefits as America approaches the year end fiscal cliff.


Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/26/1164768/-German-Spiegel-Notes-on-the-Decline-of-a-Great-Nation



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Reply German Spiegel: "Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation" (Original post)
Democrats Ramshield Nov 2012 OP
niyad Nov 2012 #1
jsr Nov 2012 #2
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #3
closeupready Nov 2012 #4
Mira Nov 2012 #13
dotymed Nov 2012 #5
Democrats Ramshield Nov 2012 #9
antigop Nov 2012 #6
zonkers Nov 2012 #7
heaven05 Nov 2012 #8
melody Nov 2012 #10
pscot Nov 2012 #11
Doctor_J Nov 2012 #12
melody Nov 2012 #15
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #14

Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:44 AM

1. k and r

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:46 AM

2. Technically not breaking news

but great article. Thanks.

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:47 AM

3. America: The Victories and Victims of Propaganda.

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:58 AM

4. There's a lot to love about Europe, but lots NOT to love -

high population density, a rigid class system, racism, high cost of living, petty crime and minor annoyances like, for an American, English is not as widely-spoken and even when it is, the cultural differences make things like humor hard to translate.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:40 AM

13. Astonishingly inaccurate perceptions in this post of yours IMO.

Just what are you basing these complaints on personally? Extensive European travel?

Of all the comments the last about language is making me absolutely nuts.
It's a good thing I'm in a good mood......................................................

By the way, I can translate humor just fine. It's a matter of how well one knows the languages and cultures involved.

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:01 AM

5. Most Americans are uninformed, they are just trying to survive.

They truly believe the propaganda about Europe and the evils of any socialism. The overwhelming majority of average citizens that I know are truly ignorant that any nation could be better than 'merika...

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Response to dotymed (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:15 AM

9. To dotymed, thanks for commenting

You're right. The American for-profit plutocrat owned media through its deception and omissions (for the most part) is keeping the American people willfully uninformed as to the value of the European social safety net adds to people's lives.

Thank you for your support.

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:11 AM

6. but, but, but....the EU is SOCIALIST! n/t

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:12 AM

7. Yeah but we've still got forests. Nah Nah. But seriously

our problem is a morale one and fixable. Will it be fixed, I do not know.

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:14 AM

8. done declined

for your information. Decline started November 22nd, 1963.

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:18 AM

10. Germans have been announcing the USA's death for thirty years

We'll still be here -- and they never thought we were great to begin with. The EU is just hoping the US will splinter apart so they can step in and be the Great White Hope for a brown world.

The planet needs a NON-European approach since it's mainly non-European. (and the USA used to be an all-European approach)

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Response to melody (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:29 AM

11. Is that the Bizarro World view?

You really need to get out more.

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Response to melody (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:31 AM

12. But we ARE in a death spiral

The excerpted pints in the article are indisputable.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:49 AM

15. What is in a death spiral?

We're not. This is the only nationality I have. My family has been here for 400 years on one side ... 50,000 on the other. The USA will always exist. It's my country. I love it. I love my people. I despise the GOP and everything they stand for, which is why I fight as hard as I do for the majority of us. That's the USA -- not the rich people who will also simply box up their stuff and move to the EU.

And all points are disputable.

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Response to Democrats Ramshield (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:49 AM

14. Locking - not Latest Breaking News

This is your own diary, analysing a Der Spiegel analysis article from 3 weeks ago. It was posted here at the time, for instance in Good Reads: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101647054 . There, or GD or Politics 2012, would be the right place if you want to restart discussion on what was not a news article anyway.

Thank you.

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