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Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:25 PM

Eric Cantor: Obama "Ought to Be Putting Obamacare on the Table"

Source: Slate


By David Weigel | Posted Monday, Nov. 26, 2012, at 1:29 PM ET

Let's ignore the Republican Senators Who Dare to Break With Norquist, shall we? I mean no offense. They're all perfectly nice guys. But their votes don't really matter when it comes to passing a compromise tax/spending Fiscal Cliff bill. The Republican House, the last redoubt of Norquistians, has shown no signs of breaking. In an op-ed last week, John Boehner made a little news when he wrote Obamacare should be "on the table" in a Cliff debate, something totally anathema to Democrats who have now defended the law in two electons. Today on Fox News, Eric Cantor echoed Boehner.

"If the President is serious about joining us and fixing the problem he ought to be putting ObamaCare on the table," he told Bill Hemmer. "There is no question in my mind, that is the largest expansion of government programs that we've seen."

Hemmer asked how far Cantor might go with this. "All I can say is that the president has got to get serious," said Cantor. "The speaker is correct that Obamacare is such an expansion of government spending that it ought to be on the table." Unlike Boehner, he got somewhat specific about what might be slashed. The medical device tax, for example, and IPAB, "the essence of Washington controlling all that health care is about."

Some Democrats, like incoming Sen. Elizabeth Warren, are open to cutting the device tax. But cutting back either that tax or IPAB costs money. Getting rid of them doesn't actually bring down the deficit at all -- it does the exact opposite. And in the past, Obamacare "on the table" has meant full repeal or full defunding. Never mind Norquist -- that's just not going to be a workable compromised.

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Reply Eric Cantor: Obama "Ought to Be Putting Obamacare on the Table" (Original post)
DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Deep13 Nov 2012 #1
kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #21
Ed Suspicious Nov 2012 #28
RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #30
Lucky Luciano Nov 2012 #34
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #48
Deep13 Nov 2012 #39
Javaman Nov 2012 #54
davidpdx Nov 2012 #53
Raine1967 Nov 2012 #2
Sadiedog Nov 2012 #37
lexw Nov 2012 #41
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #3
elleng Nov 2012 #4
Panasonic Nov 2012 #14
elleng Nov 2012 #17
GitRDun Nov 2012 #19
elleng Nov 2012 #25
sheshe2 Nov 2012 #26
elleng Nov 2012 #31
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #5
Liberal In Red State Nov 2012 #6
bowens43 Nov 2012 #7
James48 Nov 2012 #20
beac Nov 2012 #8
SummerSnow Nov 2012 #9
mac56 Nov 2012 #36
nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #10
caraher Nov 2012 #56
indie_voter Nov 2012 #11
BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #12
Akoto Nov 2012 #13
Squinch Nov 2012 #15
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #16
bluedigger Nov 2012 #18
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #22
Livluvgrow Nov 2012 #23
Kablooie Nov 2012 #24
jmowreader Nov 2012 #27
patrice Nov 2012 #29
sheshe2 Nov 2012 #40
patrice Nov 2012 #43
CBHagman Nov 2012 #32
graham4anything Nov 2012 #33
frylock Nov 2012 #35
blackspade Nov 2012 #38
sarcasmo Nov 2012 #42
SoapBox Nov 2012 #44
Hulk Nov 2012 #45
Shilo Nov 2012 #46
Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #47
WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #49
NickP Nov 2012 #50
TeamPooka Nov 2012 #51
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:30 PM

1. Nope, you lost.

Go fuck yourself.

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:58 PM

21. Cantor should be put on the table!

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:11 PM

28. Hear, hear!

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:17 PM

30. +1^100! n.t.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:30 PM

34. Dexter Morgan's Table!



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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:40 AM

48. only 3 episodes left...then one more season.

 

i don't know how i'm going to make it without Dexter and Breaking Bad.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:21 PM

39. and lobotomized. nt

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #39)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:37 AM

54. can't lobotomize something that doesn't exist. LOL nt

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:05 AM

53. His head should be on the chopping block

Maybe in a guillotine.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:30 PM

2. I think he is grasping at straws.

If all they have is going after Obamacare -- they are out of bullets and are now throwing the gun.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:40 PM

37. Thanks for the chuckle!

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:54 PM

41. Great analogy!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:31 PM

3. Hell no eric!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:31 PM

4. OK folks, a serious question.

Some may recall my (and obxhead's) rather loud support for Wayne Powell, who challenged cantor for his seat in Virginia's 7th District.
http://www.powellforva.com/

I understand Mr. Powell is thinking about running again, even tho he incurred debt in his effort, and still has some.

Anyone have thoughts on whether he should run again? And if he did, would you support him?

Thanks

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Response to elleng (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:40 PM

14. If I had money, I can contribute again

 

I donated to him before, and would be happy to donate to him again.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:50 PM

17. Thanks, Panasonic.

If I get a chance, I'll let him know.

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Response to elleng (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:54 PM

19. I would be back in

😃

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:06 PM

25. Great. Thanks, GitRDun.

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Response to elleng (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:08 PM

26. Yes Elleng I would...

Cantor betrayed not only his state in a time of crisis. He also has betrayed his country. He did this for his political gain and his obscenely rich corporate donors!

For the reasons below.From Mr. Powell's website.
(1) I will do everything in my power to end the insanity of deficit spending and get to work on paying off the national debt. Unlike Cantor, who voted this year for a budget that increased the deficit and added $3 trillion to the national debt, I will vote for no budget that increases the deficit. I will also vote for no budget that increases taxes on the middle class or small business. Where will the money come from? Simple. One, take a scalpel to the wasteful spending that we all know exists, and two, if you are a big multi-national corporation that sends American jobs overseas and pays no taxes, look out.

(2) I will do everything in my power to stop the flow of jobs, both manufacturing and high tech, from America to foreign nations. Cantor has sat idly as 2.8 million American jobs have been relegated to the slave labor market in China. Cantor's multi-national corporate sugar daddies are benefitting from his lack of action, not the 7th District.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:19 PM

31. THANKS, she2!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:34 PM

5. Cantor masturbates on Fox

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:35 PM

6. HELL NO!!! FORWARD!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:35 PM

7. f*ck you canter

sit down and shut the hell up.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:55 PM

20. thank you.

I was going to say that, but Mom told me that if I couldn't say anything nice, I should keep my mouth shut and my bayonet sharpened.

You said everything I was going to say.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:37 PM

8. How about we cancel all healthcare and pensions for each and every GOP Congressman and Senator

past and present, Eric? You want to get rid of "entitlements"? Start there.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:37 PM

9. Oooh he is so slapalicious

Stop whining Cantor won't happen.I swear they must get aroused when they hear Obamacare

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:39 PM

36. Slapalicious!



Stealing!

And welcome!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:38 PM

10. Aren't their studies showing that this plan

will actually REDUCE expenditures? Or am I not recalling this correctly?

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Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:39 AM

56. you're right

Last edited Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Sometimes you have to spend money to save money, and the projections have been that the health care act will actually reduce the deficit. One CBO estimate places the savings at an estimated $109 billion.

Which only further proves that the Republicans don't care about the deficit. They just want to attack social programs.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:38 PM

11. Eric Cantor ought to STFU. Sooner rather than later. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:39 PM

12. Can'tor ought to remember WHO WON in last election.

Or he should be reminded - not that Fox "News" would ever remind a rightwing corporate lackey they'd gotten a shellacking by the American people in last election, and had it not been for gerrymandering by Republican governors and Republican legislatures, Can'tor and the rest of the House infested with Rightwingers, would be marginalized, too.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:40 PM

13. Sorry! It was a major issue in the elections, and the people chose Obama. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:40 PM

15. Obama ought to be putting Eric Cantor on a table somewhere.

Last edited Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Dissection is under-used as a political tactic.


Edited the next day to add: Do you think I should stop watching American Horror Story?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:41 PM

16. When it comes to Cantors, the only one I ever liked was THIS one:

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:53 PM

18. They should vote on it if it's so objectionable.

Why do I have to tell him how to do his job, anyways.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:58 PM

22. I think Congresscritter Cantor needs to perform highly improbable sex acts with himself.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:59 PM

23. You lost me

at They're all perfectly nice guys. Fuck them they are dirtbags of the highest order. If they were dirt they would be the fucking brown cow manure they sell at the garden center.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:05 PM

24. Eric Cantor ought to be putting his head on the chopping block.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:10 PM

27. No he shouldn't

What should be on the table is the preferential tax rate for long-term capital gains. The original intent may have been good, but the reality of it is the capital gains rate is now a 58-percent tax savings for anyone rich enough to defer his or her payday by two years.

Since the Republicans are totally unwilling to discuss any tax rate increase, this won't happen.

Also, since the Republicans are totally unwilling to discuss any tax rate increase, this means they are behaving like two-year-olds who don't want to eat strained squash.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:11 PM

29. Re anti-ACA groups: Here's a petition to recognize the Tea Party as a treasonous hate group

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-tea-party-hate-group-and-remove-them-office-treason-against-united-states/9jJv4sT0

.......................................

If you'd like a little research supporting the claim that the TP is a hate group, here's a professional researcher who has dedicated his life to documenting the genealogy and activities of hate groups, including the Tea Party:

http://www.irehr.org/

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Response to patrice (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:49 PM

40. Patrice,

Done!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:32 AM

43. Thank you sheshe2! It is good for the people to speak!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:21 PM

32. Boehner's number is 202-225-0600...

...if you'd like to weigh in on legislative or other issues.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:21 PM

33. Elizabeth Warren wants to cut back "Obama care"? What side is she on? BAD, very bad.

 

and she calls herself a Democrat? She could qualify as Orrin Hatch's best friend doing this.
(read the last paragraph of the OP article from Slate, supposedly a liberal magazine)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:35 PM

35. can somebody kindly direct mr. cantor's attention to the big scoreboard?

the one that sez you fucking lost, so you don't get to dictate what obama ought to be doing.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:40 PM

38. Cantor ought to shut the fuck up.

His party lost the election.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:07 AM

42. They are insane.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:49 AM

44. Gawd, I hate this beady eyed Bagger.

Shut the fuck up you worm.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:14 AM

45. Can't watch the video of this sappy, whining prick...

This is one of my TWO big disappointments in the 2012 election: that this prick got re-elected. What a district of morons. This sappy, girly-man ass-hole needs to be blown off the table. WHY do we have to listen to his whiny, prissy-ass complaining about what HE doesn't like? Jesus, such a bottom-feeding turd. Can't stand this guy. Oh...the other disappointment was bachmann. HOW IN THE HELL can she be re-elected?? Shows just how lame-ass ignorant her constituents are.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:21 AM

46. I was so hoping this terdling lost his district-- woulda been icing on the cake.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:39 AM

47. ESPECIALLY since Obama lost the election!!!

"Now, let me have another hit of that FOX NEWS crack."

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:52 AM

49. Dear Mr. Cantor:

Fuck you.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 02:54 AM

50. Yeah, no. Not going to happen.

ObamaCare isn't going anywhere. Just like social security, while unpopular at first, will soon be much loved by the public once it's fully implemented.

2.2 million dollars are spent every minute on the military. Imagine if we spent 2.2 million dollars every minute on social welfare and education instead of war. ObamaCare shouldn't be on the table, the American military complex should be.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:30 AM

51. You should have paid for your 2 wars Cantor

then we could afford heathcare for everyone now.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 07:46 AM

52. Eric Cantor: Obama "Ought to Be Putting Obamacare on the Table" ...

.... It still safe to lie on Fox.

The only reason the repugs still have the majority in the House is because of
the Gerrymandering of the Congressional districts after the 2010 elections so
for Cantor to push that lie all i can do is

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 08:59 AM

55. Put Single Payer on the table, Eric, and we'll talk.

Otherwise, go back to your lair.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:09 AM

57. Yeah, that's not going to happen.

Like, ever.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:34 AM

58. You bastards LOST the election, Eric!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:53 AM

59. FDR OUGHT TO BE PUTTING THE NEW DEAL ON THE TABLE. Waaaaaaaah.

Expletive.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:48 PM

60. Cantor and the MSM need to put HIS INVOVLEMENT in the FBI Investigation of Petraeus on the table

Hardly any discussion in the Press about how email exchanged cat calls lead to a full blown FBI Investigation AT THE REQUEST OF ERIC CANTOR.

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