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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:37 AM Nov 2012

Meet the Man Who Has Been Battling Romney and Bain’s Bankruptcy Fraud for 12 Years

Last edited Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:30 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: PoliticusUSA.com (and reporter Rmuse)

There is something appealing to human beings about a small individual taking on a powerful adversary, and most people are aware of the David and Goliath story where a small insignificant boy took on and defeated a powerful giant because his unwavering faith gave him courage and conviction that right would overcome might. For the past eleven-and-a-half years, one American with unwavering faith in the judicial system has taken on a modern day giant without respite based on a belief that justice is due diligence and that in America, right overcomes might. However, in this circumstance, the system that exists to ensure justice prevails has conflated power with right and gave an already powerful giant a wall of separation from the law, and yet one small individual continues battling for justice against a behemoth.

As an eToys executive, Haas had a legal and fiduciary responsibility to report his discoveries to eToys estate managers and lawyers, and instead of gratitude for doing his job well, he was asked to betray his client for the sake of his future in the liquidation business. When Haas refused the offer to look the other way and allow eToys to be gutted and sold to Bain Capital for free, a Bain Capital surrogate installed his business partner and co-conspirator in other bankruptcies to replace Haas, and colluded to annul a court-approved contract to pay him. As an officer of the court, and 18 USC § 4 – Misprision of felony, Mr. Haas, having knowledge of the commission of a felony had a duty, as soon as possible, to make known the same to some judge or other person in civil authority and if he failed to do so, he risked being fined or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Haas fulfilled his legal duty and reported the malfeasance to the proper authorities.

Shortly after reporting the crimes, in August 2001, George W. Bush appointed another Bain Capital lawyer as U.S. Attorney and he refused to investigate or prosecute the crimes throughout his tenure; despite the U.S. and former Bain attorney’s malfeasance, Haas continued fighting for eToys shareholders and to bring the criminals to justice. During his long battle, Haas discovered attorneys representing the creditors and debtors worked for the same giant (Bain Capital) in the eToys bankruptcy and committed perjury by deliberately failing the mandate to disclose conflict of interest. In what can conservatively be called racketeering, fraud on the court, and miscarriage of justice, the court failed to prosecute or report the crimes then, and continues protecting Bain Capital and its surrogates as recently as last week when the eToys judge postponed a hearing to remove the fraudulent eToys manager in another curious miscarriage of justice.

Due diligence means making every effort to find and rectify problems in business or criminal situations, and Haas fulfilled that role as eToys executive and officer of the court, and for eleven-and-a-half years he has continued as a private citizen. No-one can ever accuse Haas of not fighting for a fair resolution that satisfies shareholders, creditors, and debtors in the eToys bankruptcy, and for his trouble the court protected Bain Capital’s surrogates and helped thwart his efforts in spite of confessions of perjury, corruptions, and fraud giving the appearance the court has no interest in justice.

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/meet-man-battling-romney-bains-bankruptcy-fraud-12-years.html



This is not and should not be a story about Laser Haas.

I wish someone else had posted this.

However, my hearing that the Delaware Federal System of Justice is trying to bury - so that Mitt Romney/ Bain Capital does not get investigated - is on December 4, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.

Being that we want to get the White House Petition signed as much as we can by then;
I'm doing what I shouldn't do - and reporting my own story.


Again - it is NOT about me......it is about Mitt Romney's organized crimes that need to be halted.

- for I am only doing the job I was hired to do. What is going on here - is tyranny, cronyism and federal corruption that is benefiting the organized criminal [Bain Capital] empire. In the past - I told them I would gladly give up everything they owed me - if they would just do the right thing. They laughed me to scorn and stated "We've already taken everything you were owed and more".

So, Mitt Romney and Laser Haas are "ALL IN" at the final table/ battle of their lives. Prior to this time, Mitt Romney believed he was going to become POTUS and be able to 'handpick' his very own Attorney General of the United STates and be able to bury the case. This is because the former U.S. Attorney (Colm Connolly), already provided proof that corruption works well for Goldman Sachs and Bain Capital. As U.S. Attorney, Colm failed to disclose that he was a Bain Capital law firm partner. http://www.justice.gov/archive/olp/colmconnollyresume.htm

Where for seven (7) years (his entire tenure in office) - United States Attorney Connolly - buried any investigation and/or prosecution into Mitt Romney/ Bain Capital etc and their cohorts in crimes (even after MNAT and Paul Traub confessed to intentional fraud & 34 acts of Perjury). Now the corrupt federal system of justice still seeks to bury the case. Please help (if you have not already) by signing our White House Petition calling for an investigation into Mitt Romney/ Bain Capital?

After all - is the request for an honorable investigation too much to ask for?
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WHITE HOUSE PETITION LINK
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/request-dept-justice-open-investigation-mitt-romney-bain-capital-retroactive-issues-etoys-2001/GxJX3qvX?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

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Background of Bain Capital/ eToys Perjury & Fraud
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    In 1999 eToys went IPO with Goldman Sachs and the stock soard to $85 - but eToys received less than $20

  • November 2000 - Wells Fargo loaned eToys $40 million

  • March 6, 2001 - after transacting more than $100 million - the Wells Fargo loan was closed

  • eToys filed Bankruptcy on March 7, 2001.

  • www.MNAT.com lied about its connections to Bain Capital and Goldman Sachs to become eToys attorney

  • Paul Traub lied about his connections to Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo and Bain Capital to become Creditors attorney

  • MNAT and Mr. Traub then place Paul Traub's partner inside eToys as President/CEO

  • Laser Haas refuses their bribe (to become Bain's partner)

  • MNAT submits a (forgery) to the Federal Court - telling the Judge Laser Haas waives his right to be paid

  • In Delaware, MNAT represents (secretly) - both Goldman Sachs & Bain Capital

  • Mitt Romney own's stage stores and Michael Glazer was his director, Barry Gold assist Director who hired Paul Traub

  • eToys was sold to Bain Capital for less than pennies on the dollar to Kay Bee/ Michael Glazer

  • It takes several years to find the proof of Perjury & Fraud;which forced Paul Traub and MNAT to confess

  • US Trustee, having no authority to do so, gives MNAT & Traub (illegal) immunity

  • In 2007, Laser Haas learns that US Attorney (Colm Connolly) is partner with Bain Capital law firm MNAT

  • Crimes & Corruption are reported to Dept of Justice Public Corruption Task Force

  • GWB's Navy Pilot buddy (Tom O'Brien) as US Attorney - Shuts DOWN Public Corruption Task Force
    career Assistant U.S. Attorneys are Threatened to Keep their Mouths SHUT

    http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/20/local/me-shakeup20

  • Laser Haas files a brief in Wilmington DE Fed BK Court to bring this to public's attention
    Court & Clerk illegally withhold the Mitt Romney/ Bain Capital litigation until the election is over

    http://www.politicususa.com/court-clerk-romney-bain-capital-considered-law.html
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    update Saturday morning November 24th.

    THANK YOU ALL - VERY MUCH

    We now have the bare minimum of signatures
    that our Petition is viewable on the White House page.

    HOWEVER - the job is NOT done - we need 24,000 more signatures
    to get an answer from the White House.


    ANYbody with any ideas on how to get the other 24,000 signatures - Please Advise?

    And I've got a VERY BIG surprise for them next week.

    Appreciate helping me nail this crooks by their proverbials



    XOXOXOXOX

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Meet the Man Who Has Been Battling Romney and Bain’s Bankruptcy Fraud for 12 Years (Original Post) laserhaas Nov 2012 OP
My god, what perfidy on Romney's part. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #1
Damn CaliforniaPeggy - now I have to go look up a dictionary on "perfidy" laserhaas Nov 2012 #2
Just for fun, diferentiate between malfeasance and misfeasance. /nt TheMadMonk Nov 2012 #6
Figure malfeasane would be deliberately doing ill, malthaussen Nov 2012 #24
just a guess (w/o google) BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #25
In that case - "BlueToTheBone' - both are apropos laserhaas Nov 2012 #51
Signed... GitRDun Nov 2012 #3
Thanks GirRDun laserhaas Nov 2012 #4
Much appreciation to you... This is going to change things for the better. Thank You. freshwest Nov 2012 #5
One can only hope, pray and stay the course - 'freshwest' laserhaas Nov 2012 #11
Signed Sir! Good luck to you! SouthernDonkey Nov 2012 #7
Thank You - 'SouthernDonkey' laserhaas Nov 2012 #12
done Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #8
Thanks - 'Angry Dragon' laserhaas Nov 2012 #13
Yes We CAN!!!!!! - Welcome to DU goclark Nov 2012 #16
Thank You -'goclark' - it is a joy to be here and to be treated laserhaas Nov 2012 #68
Gladly signed. K&R N/T catnhatnh Nov 2012 #9
Th-thanks - 'catnhatnh' laserhaas Nov 2012 #14
Two comments davidpdx Nov 2012 #10
If we ever find a honorable (Eliot Ness type) Prosecutor - BAIN will be RICO'd laserhaas Nov 2012 #15
Freaking republicans have 'values' right out of the cesspool Berlum Nov 2012 #17
☺ - Great pic - 'Berlum' laserhaas Nov 2012 #43
I signed but I can't be optimistic about DoJ action. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #18
Concur -'Jim Lane' - it has issues. HOWEVER - laserhaas Nov 2012 #44
Sooooo close! mzteaze Nov 2012 #19
Woo Hoo, now over the threshold with 174. Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #32
☺ - Thanks -'Snarkoleptic' laserhaas Nov 2012 #46
Thanks -'mzteaze' - We have 229 signatures now laserhaas Nov 2012 #45
Awesome news!! mzteaze Nov 2012 #75
I truly admire and love people who go after the giants, even when lunatica Nov 2012 #20
Thanks - 'lunatica' - even though my friends and family said I was NUTso - laserhaas Nov 2012 #47
Signed petition, and... BlueNoteSpecial Nov 2012 #21
LOL - thanks 'BlueNoteSpecial' ☺ laserhaas Nov 2012 #48
Done Flying Squirrel Nov 2012 #22
Appreciate it - 'Flying Squirrel' laserhaas Nov 2012 #49
Signed nt GardeningGal Nov 2012 #23
TY - 'GardeningGal' laserhaas Nov 2012 #50
If you expect sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #26
One step at a time - 'sulphurdunn' [☺] laserhaas Nov 2012 #52
Let's hope so. sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #82
Thanks for your work! As I was reading the article BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #27
HDD's - and memory storage devices laserhaas Nov 2012 #53
Of course, that shows my mental age...lol BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #83
signed kartski Nov 2012 #28
Thanks -'kartski' laserhaas Nov 2012 #54
Signed n/t countmyvote4real Nov 2012 #29
thank you -'countmyvote4real' laserhaas Nov 2012 #55
kick & rec Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #30
Thank you - Voice for Peace laserhaas Nov 2012 #56
mittens and the four felony rule icarusxat Nov 2012 #31
I can name 103 - in Stage Stores, FAO Schwartz, Kay Bee and eToys laserhaas Nov 2012 #57
Laser Haas is bad A$$. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #33
Acutally - I'm really a gentle Ben laserhaas Nov 2012 #58
When you go after the giant that makes you cross the gentle Ben line. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #74
Wow, I am in *AWE* of you!! Well done good citizen!! Happily signed & a HUGE K&R!! Melinda Nov 2012 #34
I am but a man - from the wrong side of the tracks laserhaas Nov 2012 #59
Signed. xfundy Nov 2012 #35
Thanks -'xfundy' laserhaas Nov 2012 #60
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #36
Kudos - 'WillyT' laserhaas Nov 2012 #61
Thanks for the effort you are making in fighting corruption truedelphi Nov 2012 #70
Thank you for your personal sacrifices in bringing crooks to justice. K&R Doremus Nov 2012 #37
I don't know if being a victim of a robbery is a "sacrifice" -'Doremus' laserhaas Nov 2012 #62
Signed and will email the info and link around. beac Nov 2012 #38
GREAT - thanks 'beac' - this is what is needed to get to 25k laserhaas Nov 2012 #63
kick for the late-night crowd n/t beac Nov 2012 #79
kick n/t beac Nov 2012 #85
kick n/t beac Nov 2012 #100
Very cool laserhaas Nov 2012 #103
The biggest mistake Mitt Romney ever made was running for president jmowreader Nov 2012 #39
You got that right - 'jmowreader' - Hubris and greed will be their undoing laserhaas Nov 2012 #64
There's a reason we should wait jmowreader Nov 2012 #78
kick! navarth Nov 2012 #40
It's ALL true - 'navarth' - All the Proof is within Public Records laserhaas Nov 2012 #65
K&R closeupready Nov 2012 #41
TY -'closeupready' laserhaas Nov 2012 #66
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #42
Appreciate it - 'ProudProgressiveNow' - nt laserhaas Nov 2012 #67
I'd heaven05 Nov 2012 #69
Thanks - 'heaven05' laserhaas Nov 2012 #86
laserhaas: Raine1967 Nov 2012 #71
He's doing 3 jobs right now - I've got a link in the comments of his article laserhaas Nov 2012 #87
and watch nothing happen 4dsc Nov 2012 #72
You can't use that avatar - and then be pure with such a reflect - 4dsc laserhaas Nov 2012 #88
Thanks for posting russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #73
You're welcome laserhaas Nov 2012 #89
K&R! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #76
appreciate it - 'hrmjustin' laserhaas Nov 2012 #90
Signed. jschurchin Nov 2012 #77
If it can't be done here - with their confessions laserhaas Nov 2012 #91
It would be awesome if this stuck. blackspade Nov 2012 #80
Capone went down pleading NOT guilty on Tax issues laserhaas Nov 2012 #92
Ahh, hubris... blackspade Nov 2012 #98
Yep - gotta keep the weed eaters out of society laserhaas Nov 2012 #101
How true. blackspade Nov 2012 #104
kick'd and rec'd lunatica Nov 2012 #81
Thanks - 'lunatica' laserhaas Nov 2012 #93
24,672 signatures still needed! beac Nov 2012 #84
Okay laserhaas Nov 2012 #94
Reads much clearer now. beac Nov 2012 #96
kick n/t beac Nov 2012 #99
Thanks - VERY much - 'beac' laserhaas Nov 2012 #102
K & R dchill Nov 2012 #95
Thanks - 'dchill' laserhaas Nov 2012 #97
Signed and kicking. nt Hotler Nov 2012 #105
Thanks - MUCH laserhaas Nov 2012 #106
Kicking for more visibility -- this petition needs to be DU'ed! Raine1967 Nov 2012 #107
Thank you - 'Raine1967' - the reporter is thinking about doing a story on the PETITION laserhaas Nov 2012 #108
Just checking back mzteaze Nov 2012 #109
Thanks - a story on the Petition itself - is due out soon laserhaas Nov 2012 #110
K&R SouthernDonkey Nov 2012 #111
Thanks - SouthernDonkey - I'm afraid we are fighting in vain laserhaas Dec 2012 #112
Thank You, can you cross post petition signature request in Activism? freshwest Dec 2012 #113
I will post it in Activism (but - do I simply repost entire thread there) laserhaas Dec 2012 #114
No, just make an OP, with signatures needs for petition, and a link to this OP. freshwest Dec 2012 #115
Here's the link to the Thread you requested I create. - If you see something wrong laserhaas Dec 2012 #116
Would help if the LINK was actually visible - huh? laserhaas Dec 2012 #117
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
2. Damn CaliforniaPeggy - now I have to go look up a dictionary on "perfidy"
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:06 AM
Nov 2012

But THANKS GREATLY for the well wish.....!

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
24. Figure malfeasane would be deliberately doing ill,
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nov 2012

... whereas misfeasance would be making a mistake.

Either way, your feasance sucks.

-- Mal

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
51. In that case - "BlueToTheBone' - both are apropos
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:14 PM
Nov 2012

They most definitely had deliberateness in their bad faith (ebol) intents

and

It was "stupid" to stiff me - simply because they had the powers as crooks to do so.


The arrogance (of running for POTUS - when you are a crook)

- is most likely going to lead to their downfall.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
68. Thank You -'goclark' - it is a joy to be here and to be treated
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:41 PM
Nov 2012

with kindness and consideration - from the outset.

So COOL!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
14. Th-thanks - 'catnhatnh'
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:53 AM
Nov 2012

We may one day eat fried green eggs n ham

roasting Romney's Bain RICO monies.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
10. Two comments
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:46 AM
Nov 2012

The story is about selective prosecution and protecting corporations and bigwigs. Second, the bankruptcy happen around the same time Enron, and Worldcom were up to no good as well.

I hope he brings down Bain, but it seems unlikely.


 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
15. If we ever find a honorable (Eliot Ness type) Prosecutor - BAIN will be RICO'd
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:57 AM
Nov 2012

The reality is - Goldman Sachs and others share the wealth

Romney only shares with the Mormon Church and puts his cash off shore.
(he doesn't share it around - like a prudent man should)

His hubris may turn out to be his end (and Bain Capital's).

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
17. Freaking republicans have 'values' right out of the cesspool
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:27 AM
Nov 2012

No wonder Americans don't respect Republicans.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
18. I signed but I can't be optimistic about DoJ action.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:50 AM
Nov 2012

For a newly re-elected Obama to order, approve, or countenance an investigation that touched so closely on his defeated rival would strike many people as retribution (regardless of the facts of the case).

I'm guessing that Obama's political advisors would tell him, "Go after any other corporate crooks in the country before you go after Romney."

Of course, there are plenty of other such targets, and DoJ hasn't gone after them, either.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
44. Concur -'Jim Lane' - it has issues. HOWEVER -
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:03 PM
Nov 2012

the primary issue is the Oath of Offices to defend our Constitution from enemies foreign and


DOMESTIC!

That is why I suggested (in a previous thread) - that BO needs to pardon (or give clemency) to Pitten's

But RICO every single frigg'n penny (because he got where he is through federal corruption)

(BTW - I'm gonna push this to the point where the prosecution MUST transpire)

mzteaze

(448 posts)
19. Sooooo close!
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:59 AM
Nov 2012

You have 117 signatures on the petition.

K & R

Need to get the signatures to 150 for it to make it publicly searchable.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
32. Woo Hoo, now over the threshold with 174.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:27 PM
Nov 2012

Hope to see it gain momentum.
My wife and I loved e-toys and were stunned when it went (read: was pulled) under.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
45. Thanks -'mzteaze' - We have 229 signatures now
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:05 PM
Nov 2012

and hopefully get more when everyone gets back to work Monday.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
75. Awesome news!!
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:07 AM
Nov 2012

I posted here AND on Facebook. Also begged a few friends to post as well. I really really hope it works out for you.


lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. I truly admire and love people who go after the giants, even when
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:32 AM
Nov 2012

they're forced to do it alone. They remind me of the adage I love the best. It's better to have fought and lost than never to have fought at all. I substituted the word fought for love, but it works for me.

I signed the petition.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
47. Thanks - 'lunatica' - even though my friends and family said I was NUTso -
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
Nov 2012

I drew a line in the sand - and said - "someone has to do this"

G-d's universe picked me (and I was so insignificant - they kept breaking the law openly)

Now, due to Romney's hubris - we may see a wonderful thing transpire;

JUSTICE!

BlueNoteSpecial

(141 posts)
21. Signed petition, and...
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:53 AM
Nov 2012

...may this be the snowball that starts an avalanche, for it is quite obvious that capitalism must be saved from the capitalists holding Us hostage. Now then, about that 43 trillion....................

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
26. If you expect
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:17 AM
Nov 2012

the Obama justice department to investigate this you must have believed it would seriously investigate and prosecute the war crimes of the Bush administration and "too big to fail" bank fraud. Remember, they look forward not back.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
52. One step at a time - 'sulphurdunn' [☺]
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:18 PM
Nov 2012

My emails are signed with

"justice is due diligence"

They get away with cronyism & corruption and schemes;
because we are (more often than not) - too busy to make an effort.

However, if you keep chisling away at the dam - sooner or later - something has to give.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
27. Thanks for your work! As I was reading the article
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

I kept thinking of all the file cabinets filled with documentation you must have.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
53. HDD's - and memory storage devices
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:20 PM
Nov 2012

In multiple places (they broke into 6 already - so I no longer discuss them on my phone or emails)

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
83. Of course, that shows my mental age...lol
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:33 PM
Nov 2012

Keep hiding more and more because your work is so important.

So many of the great toy stores went under during that time. I wonder how many were ruined in the same way. We were a supplier for so many that went under during the same time. We went from a great little factory to outsourcing in about 2 years after all that.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
54. Thanks -'kartski'
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

Appreciate it very much....

Remember - the job is not done at 150

the goal is 25,000 (that will mandate a response)

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
56. Thank you - Voice for Peace
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:23 PM
Nov 2012

and may we get "peace" of mind in this case

with better efforts for peace on earth - worldwi[s]e

icarusxat

(403 posts)
31. mittens and the four felony rule
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:25 PM
Nov 2012

Thomas Jeff would probably advocate that no person who ought to be tried and convicted on four or more felonies shall be elected president (or allowed to run).

He lived in his son's basement so he could vote? Yeah, right...

Your mission should you decide to accept it, name the other three...

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
57. I can name 103 - in Stage Stores, FAO Schwartz, Kay Bee and eToys
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:25 PM
Nov 2012

By his very own words (Benghazi affair) - the man at the top is responsible

and He WAS there!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
58. Acutally - I'm really a gentle Ben
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:26 PM
Nov 2012

(unfortunately - both literally and figure)

But - one very pee'd off - gentle Ben

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
34. Wow, I am in *AWE* of you!! Well done good citizen!! Happily signed & a HUGE K&R!!
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:30 PM
Nov 2012

It's people such as you, Mr Haas, that make this world a better place for us all. Thanks for all your efforts on our behalf - I am happy to share your petition with my family, friends, and on facebook.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
70. Thanks for the effort you are making in fighting corruption
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:33 PM
Nov 2012

And sadly, what Rmoney figured out in terms of Bain's malfeasance, is now pretty much Standard Operating Procedure in terms of Big Business.

And Big Business owns even more members of the Political Class than back in 1990.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
62. I don't know if being a victim of a robbery is a "sacrifice" -'Doremus'
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:30 PM
Nov 2012

It is my intention to get back what they stole.

But I DO - appreciate the kind words

beac

(9,992 posts)
38. Signed and will email the info and link around.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

FYI, whitehouse.gov gave me this shorter link to use in an email:

http://wh.gov/X2DC

I tested it, and it does go to your petition.

Thank you so much for posting this and for fighting on in the face of so much frustration.

Let us know if we can help in any other way!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
63. GREAT - thanks 'beac' - this is what is needed to get to 25k
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:31 PM
Nov 2012

If each of U.S. continue to just get to 2 new people each day

and they do the same - we can get to 25K by Friday.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
39. The biggest mistake Mitt Romney ever made was running for president
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:45 PM
Nov 2012

If he would have stayed out of the spotlight his corruption would never have been known.

If I was Obama I would appoint a federal prosecutor to investigate quietly. After the 2014 election, hand down indictments.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
64. You got that right - 'jmowreader' - Hubris and greed will be their undoing
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:33 PM
Nov 2012

But - (I sincerely hope) - that we don't have to wait until after 2014

The indictments should come now (long overdue)

and show America what the RWNJ crooks are doing (profusely)

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
78. There's a reason we should wait
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 02:32 AM
Nov 2012

In November 2014 comes the next midterm election.

If we punish Romney now the right wing nut cases will claim the president is retaliating against Romney for the sin of challenging him in the presidential election. Oh, and we don't have any evidence, we're just going after him for trying to unseat Obama. The Mighty Wurlitzer will play the Retaliation Song for the next two years, and there'll be a whole new bunch of RW assholes who promise to impeach Obama for retaliating against the poor sweet innocent Romney, and to write a bunch of anti-retaliation laws.

If we punish Romney between "now" and the 2014 election, see the last paragraph.

Punishing Romney after the 2014 election does two things for us: it cuts off the "retaliation" crap at the knees, and it allows investigators to prepare a case so strong and watertight you could make a submarine door out of it.

Karl Rove, OTOH, should be indicted now. There is enough strong, and public, evidence against the bastard that it would be no problem finding twenty or thirty charges you could definitely get to stick...and with Rove I really recommend prosecuting him like they did Al Capone. When Eliot Ness went after Capone he came up with a LOT of good solid charges against him--income tax, Volstead Act violations, Mann Act violations (one of Capone's first jobs in the underworld was running a whorehouse that straddled a state line--Illinois-Indiana, I believe. When the cops from one state came to raid it, Capone would quickly get everyone into the state the cops were not from. Why in hell someone from the Illinois State Police never set up a joint raid with the Indiana State Police I do not know.), murder charges, racketeering, just so much stuff. But because Capone was a danger to the public if left at large Ness's purpose was to throw Al Capone in jail for anything they could get to stick; therefore, they were prepared to bring new charges into court until they got a conviction, and started with tax evasion--which got them a conviction on their first go-round. Rove never bootlegged and he never, so far as we know, actually killed anyone, but he's left a trail of slime behind him you could slide the Empire State Building to Massachusetts on, and somewhere in there is a couple hundred years worth of prison time should someone choose to accept the challenge.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
65. It's ALL true - 'navarth' - All the Proof is within Public Records
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:38 PM
Nov 2012

Including their confessions to "intentional" fraud & perjury

(the key word "mens rea"/scienter) - are the facts they admitted deceiving the court was deliberate.

There's no greater (civil) crime - than Fraud on the Court by Officers of the Court

(See In re Hazel Atlas Glass v Hartford Empire (U.S. Sup Ct 1944(

Cases closed for 9 years - are reopened - because those "inside" the system;
can NOT abuse their position of trust for bad faith gains.

There's NO Statute of Limitations on Fraud on the Court by OFFICERS of the Court
(attorneys become "officers" of the court - when they are granted their 'pro hac vice' to appear before the court)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
69. I'd
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:28 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)

like nothing better than to see mittshit in handcuffs with a hood over his head trying to dodge the cameras. keep up the good work.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
71. laserhaas:
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:04 PM
Nov 2012

is there anyway we could get Rmuse to add a link to the petition in this article?

Thank you for doing the right thing, sir. I will share this and the petition as far and wide as I can.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
87. He's doing 3 jobs right now - I've got a link in the comments of his article
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:10 PM
Nov 2012

Hoping to get them to do a story on the Petition - solely

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
72. and watch nothing happen
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:16 PM
Nov 2012

just saying. I won't hold my breath that any criminal prosecution will take place involving anyone from Bain.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
88. You can't use that avatar - and then be pure with such a reflect - 4dsc
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:12 PM
Nov 2012

You have NO idea how much has been accomplished thus far

4 law firms closed - 3 billionaires in Jail - over a dozen in DOJ resigned
2 judges promoted off the case

61 stories written

It's not easy - taking down big sleazy - but we ARE close

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
92. Capone went down pleading NOT guilty on Tax issues
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:19 PM
Nov 2012

These guys have (already) confessed to perjury and fraud;
but the had their very own U.S. Attorney in their pocket.

Would have totally got away with it - had they not run him for POTUS.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
98. Ahh, hubris...
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:20 PM
Nov 2012

Hopefully Holder will get off his ass and start an actual investigation.

Of course he is a bit busy busting folks for selling and smoking pot.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
101. Yep - gotta keep the weed eaters out of society
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:04 AM
Nov 2012

and the Robber Baron's in the "trickle down" business of "busting out" companies and destroying pensions.

beac

(9,992 posts)
84. 24,672 signatures still needed!
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:53 PM
Nov 2012

Might want to amend and clarify your update a bit... I know what you were saying but, it could be interpreted that you don't need more signatures.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
108. Thank you - 'Raine1967' - the reporter is thinking about doing a story on the PETITION
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:23 PM
Nov 2012

After all - what it requests is - an honorable investigation.

Is that really too much to ask for?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
112. Thanks - SouthernDonkey - I'm afraid we are fighting in vain
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:24 PM
Dec 2012

The Judge has changed the hearing from my evidence

to one being controlled by those who confessed fraud & perjury

where they are planning to close the case and take the rest of the money

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
113. Thank You, can you cross post petition signature request in Activism?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:42 PM
Dec 2012
Activist Headquarters (Group)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1011

SOP of the group:

Organize and meet your fellow DU activists!

I don't do Twitter or Facebook, but they might get this going even better. I do agree with Jim Lane it may hard to get this with the DOJ, but it can be put in the chute for future actions. Thank you again.
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
114. I will post it in Activism (but - do I simply repost entire thread there)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:05 PM
Dec 2012

Is there some tweak?

Or do I do something different?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
115. No, just make an OP, with signatures needs for petition, and a link to this OP.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:20 PM
Dec 2012

There are no Hosts of that group at this time to ask questions about. To make sure it's okay with the Admins, you might contact them directly. I don't think there would be any blowback in the legal sense. Go to this link to see how to do it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=contact

Another idea just hit me. The UAW and the AFL-CIO are fighting this business model and what it's doing to the country.

Have you contacted any unions about this?

I doubt those were union workers that lost their jobs, but it's the same cause. Perhaps the union might have forced something, organized while it was in process to gain attention before it was done by Bain, maybe even a buy out.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
116. Here's the link to the Thread you requested I create. - If you see something wrong
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:48 AM
Dec 2012

please advise?

(even if I did not say enough - or too much - I don't know)

Critique me please?

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