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Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:15 PM

US trucker nabbed with ammo in Mexico is freed

Source: Associated Press

US trucker nabbed with ammo in Mexico is freed
JUAN CARLOS LLORCA, Associated Press
Updated 2:57 p.m., Friday, November 23, 2012

EL PASO, Texas (AP) A Dallas trucker detained for eight months in Mexico on allegations that he tried to smuggled assault rifle ammunition into the country is expected to return Friday to the United States, his lawyer said.

Jabin Bogan was released from prison about two weeks ago but detained by immigration authorities, his attorney, Carlos Spector, told The Associated Press.

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Mexican customs agents contradicted prosecutors' claim that Bogan had 268,000 bullets hidden under the floorboards of his 18-wheeler's trailer when he was arrested. Agents testified in June that Bogan was trying to make a U-turn back into the U.S. when they found the ammunition bundled on top of wooden pallets inside the trailer.

Bogan was arrested less than 100 feet from a giant billboard that reads, "no more weapons." The sign, unveiled by Mexican President Felipe Calderon two months before Bogan was caught, was made out of seized high-caliber rifles and ammunition.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/texas/article/US-trucker-nabbed-with-ammo-in-Mexico-is-freed-4061950.php#ixzz2D5QC3YTH

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:04 PM

1. What the hell is "assault rifle ammunition?

 

If Mexico had some actual sensible gun laws, there wouldn't be a gun problem there (and what problem there is is almost entirely due to the drug cartels).

Much like if we had sensible drug laws, we wouldn't have anywhere near the problem we currently do.

Duh.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:13 AM

2. Well, it was belt linked, so technically accurate.

Though, .308 chambered rifles are generally referred to as battle rifles, not assault rifles, select fire or no.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:09 AM

6. Where are you seeing "belt linked"? Or the caliber? Am I caffeine-defficient? n/t

 

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:44 PM

8. I did a separate search on the case, and found pictures of what was allegedly found

in the truck. Which was metal linked .308.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:51 PM

9. That would make it machine gun ammunition

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:55 PM

10. Well, yes and no.

 

Originally intended for military use, almost certainly. But much linked ammo is also sold as surplus, world-wide. We import a lot of it. Almost every on-line ammo vender has it. Lots of folks buy it, de-link it (kind of a pain in the arse) and use it in lots of guns. And there are civilian-legal machine guns to use it in....

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:09 PM

12. Sure, there are also kits and adaptors to feed it right into an assault rifle of various

flavors. Sort of making it a poor man's machine gun you can't swap the barrel on easily. (Compared to an M60 or similar true Machine Gun)

I'm sure the ammo was totally legit, and the guy likely did just screw up.

I wonder how the store it was being shipped to handled the financial loss. Probably just ate it. How would you claim that on insurance? Mexico stole it?

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:57 PM

11. O.K., thanks. Got any... ummm... links? n/t

 

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:49 AM

3. The drug cartels run Mexico. There isn't going to sensible anything for a long time. nt

 

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:44 AM

5. It goes with those ATF export models. ;)

 

nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:31 AM

4. ddid he make a wrong turn or what. seems strange he was making a u turn back to the US

 

But thats a lot of ammo to carry. Thinking about it i have about 500 rounds of federal 40 cal in my truck at any time but thats for personal use.

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:18 AM

7. The article info is rather poor....

 

but it sounds like a normal ammo shipment to me.

During his trial, Mexican customs agents contradicted prosecutors' claim that Bogan had 268,000 bullets hidden under the floorboards of his 18-wheeler's trailer when he was arrested. Agents testified in June that Bogan was trying to make a U-turn back into the U.S. when they found the ammunition bundled on top of wooden pallets inside the trailer.


The ammunition belonged to United Nations Ammunition.

This is a legit company: http://www.unammo.com/

When a gun store buys in bulk, it almost always gets shipped on a pallet. Often, the pallet simply gets put out in the middle of the shop floor and you pull cases of ammo off to take to the register. Depending on caliber, 268K rounds (at 500-1000 rounds/case) would be 3-6 pallets, not at all an unusual amount for a gun store to buy. About 2-3 hours worth of sales at a gun show.

This sounds to me like he did make a wrong turn (it happens quite frequently, many of the border crossings have no last-minute exits) and the Mexican prosecuters decided to be assholes.

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