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(11,093 posts)
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:32 AM Nov 2012

Wal-Mart: Just 50 Workers Participated in Protests

Source: FOXBusiness

Despite concerns about pro-union protests hampering Black Friday sales, Wal-Mart Stores (WMT) said Friday that fewer than 50 of its employees nationwide participated in the demonstrations while about 22 million customers flooded into its stores.

The protests, which were planned by the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union, appear to have been tamer than some had expected. The demonstrations that did occur included many non-Wal-Mart employees, such as union organizers and workers in other trades like teachers.

“Only 26 protests occurred at stores last night and many of them did not include any Walmart associates,” Bill Simon, CEO of Wal-Mart U.S., said in a statement.

Wal-Mart said it did not experience “the walk-offs that were promised by the UFCW” and less than 50 of its associates participated in the protest nationwide.

Overall, roughly the same number of workers missed their scheduled shift as last year, Simon said.

The UFCW helped organize the demonstrations, which are aimed at bringing attention to what some call unfair labor conditions at Wal-Mart, the world’s largest retailer.
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UFCW said Wal-Mart workers in more than 100 cities are expected to go on strike, including at stores in California, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Mississippi and Louisiana.


Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2012/11/23/wal-mart-just-50-workers-participated-in-protests/



Confusing thing is that it says only "50 workers nationwide" but goes on to say "workers in more than 100 cities are expected..." which is it?
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Wal-Mart's massive propaganda machine is out in force Politicub Nov 2012 #1
That will change. bitchkitty Nov 2012 #2
That still doesn't help workers Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #4
If we have a service economy now, then workers need Politicub Nov 2012 #32
Not only a Walmart source, but on Fox obxhead Nov 2012 #12
"...any news originating from a Walmart source with a skeptical eye" SoapBox Nov 2012 #13
You know Walmart is worried when they bring out the big PR guns Politicub Nov 2012 #33
I think you misread something Bradical79 Nov 2012 #3
Walmart worker in Mo. small town told me wendylaroux Nov 2012 #5
Successful propaganda is successful. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #8
Well don't forget that rural MO. glacierbay Nov 2012 #9
Hey neighbor! logosoco Nov 2012 #15
Howdy neighbor glacierbay Nov 2012 #18
Oh, they are~ logosoco Nov 2012 #19
They look like something out of a Steven King horror movie. glacierbay Nov 2012 #21
alligator gar Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #31
Cost of housing, etc. is not that high in Missouri. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #14
When? Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #22
I'll bet most Walmart workers get their news from Fox. Kablooie Nov 2012 #24
They consider themselves Evangelical Christian Republicans FIRST, and laborors second... Volaris Nov 2012 #34
Is FOXBusiness any less biased than FOXNews? nt DonViejo Nov 2012 #6
pure spin Botany Nov 2012 #7
Isn't that about last night? Thursday? Today is Black Friday. patrice Nov 2012 #10
That's correct the real deal will be today. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #11
Survey was completed by the same bunch that... santamargarita Nov 2012 #16
Both of them are lying classykaren Nov 2012 #17
I'm completely and totally done there Sugarcoated Nov 2012 #20
Numbers from The Nation LIVE blog Omaha Steve Nov 2012 #23
This makes me chuckle- richmwill Nov 2012 #29
wal-mart: our products are made in the USA arely staircase Nov 2012 #25
“Only 26 protests..." What a small number. Sivafae Nov 2012 #26
Christmas crowd cares not about workers, only greed nt msongs Nov 2012 #27
These pics show a few more than 50 ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #28
I think he meant "no more than 50" PER STORE. n/t IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2012 #30
Or does that mean "only 50 employee KEPT THEIR JOBS after joining the protests"? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #35

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
1. Wal-Mart's massive propaganda machine is out in force
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

Look at any news originating from a Walmart source with a skeptical eye. Once a critical mass of Walmart stores go union, there's not a lot they can do in the non right-to-work states.

Greedy fucks. It's the only place to shop in the small town where my parents live, but we're happily boycotting them over black Friday weekend. It's easy for me to boycott when I return home because there are so many options. But for people in rural towns, about the only place to buy clothes and other items is Walmart.

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
2. That will change.
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:45 AM
Nov 2012

Online shopping is the future, IMO. I haven't set foot in a department store in years!

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
4. That still doesn't help workers
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012

Warehouse workers for Amazon, Walmart, Target and tons of other retailers have horrible conditions too. There is no escaping this problem with 'shopping choices' or whatever. Without systemic change to our labor laws the workers will get screwed whether we shop in person or online, from Walmart or nominally 'better' sources.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
32. If we have a service economy now, then workers need
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:46 PM
Nov 2012

to be paid a fair living wage. Every service worker deserves to be in the middle class.

I hope collective bargaining power will be increased so we make the service-oriented companies pay thier employees what they deserve. It's way past time.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
13. "...any news originating from a Walmart source with a skeptical eye"
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:25 PM
Nov 2012

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto!

JUST like my multi-billion dollar, worldwide employer.

They have a PR MEGA-machine, to put out press releases and hit the media (ALL media) hard, with any message that they want sent.

If it's a "corporate spokesperson"...don't be a DUMB FUCK and believe them.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
33. You know Walmart is worried when they bring out the big PR guns
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:48 PM
Nov 2012

to spread disinformation.

At long last the organized labor seed has been planted.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
3. I think you misread something
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:47 AM
Nov 2012
Confusing thing is that it says only "50 workers nationwide" but goes on to say "workers in more than 100 cities are expected..." which is it?


The claim that "50 workers nationwide" took part is the claim from Walmart on how many employees actually were involved in the protests.

The claim that "workers in more than 100 cities are expected" is a claim from the UFCW on how many cities they expected Wallmart worker protests to occur in.

So it's a prediction from the UFCW vs. what Walmart claims actually happened.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
5. Walmart worker in Mo. small town told me
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:54 AM
Nov 2012

that they don't want any UNION here,and the workers protesting elsewhere should be fired. My son and I just stood there in shock[silly us].When did unions become evil in some people eyes? Soon no one will be paid enough to live. It's like these people don't believe they are worth anything better.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
9. Well don't forget that rural MO.
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nov 2012

is very red, it's only when you get to the cities, St. Louis. Kansas City, that you get into the blue areas and pro union. I live in Fenton and it's mostly red with some scattering of blue.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
15. Hey neighbor!
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:32 PM
Nov 2012

I live in High Ridge where they just built the new WM. I tried to look at it positively...added some jobs, keeps tax money in Jefferson County (people here don't have to go to the Bluffs). But it does seem to have impacted the sales at the union Shop n Save across the highway.
I still prefer Target!I only go to the Walmart when I have really good coupons or can't really get the item anywhere else.

I think our area is red because the Republicans have convinced everyone the Democrats will take their guns away. I wish people here would open their eyes! This is a working class county, by far, but everyone votes against their own interests.
Good to know there is a fellow DU member so near by! Gives me hope!

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
18. Howdy neighbor
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:53 PM
Nov 2012

My next door neighbor is a dyed in the wool teabagger and he swears up and down that Pres. Obama is going to take away our guns.
Despite that, we are best friends and will do anything for each other, he's a tug boat captain on the Mississippi, and I'm a cop in St. Louis.
Used to go to the Meramec for fishing, haven't been down there in a while though,last time I fished there, I hooked a Gar,ugliest damn fish ever.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
19. Oh, they are~
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:58 PM
Nov 2012

We found a gar skull on the bank of the Meramec at George Winter park. My kids wanted to bring it home but would not touch it!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. Cost of housing, etc. is not that high in Missouri.
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:26 PM
Nov 2012

Walmart tends to thrive in small-town America.

But in the cities in which Walmart is increasingly trying to place stores, just renting an apartment or even a room costs quite a bit (a lot in Los Angeles or New York). Walmart pay just won't cut it once Walmart tries to enter these big, high volume markets. That is when Walmart will meet its Waterloo -- when it tries to take over the markets in big cities. They will have customers, but the employees will organize and demand living wages. The employees will have to do that just to survive.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
24. I'll bet most Walmart workers get their news from Fox.
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 02:31 PM
Nov 2012

If they don't watch it themselves they hear Fox News views from co-workers.

The Republicans have persuaded so many poor rural whites that they have the truth somehow.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
34. They consider themselves Evangelical Christian Republicans FIRST, and laborors second...
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:31 AM
Nov 2012

and since Unions have been made the domain of dirty liberal Democrats and run by mobsters, it follows that they would want little to nothing to do with them.
The problem is with the phrase "Evangelical Christian Republicans"...there will HAVE to be a fracturing of the connectedness of those ideas into a more useful whole. Right now, being a Christian in America almost elxuslivley means that you are required by hucksters and GOP politicians to believe really dumb things (for instance, that Unions are bad for you because they are run by Liberal Mobsters)

The truly sad thing about this circumstance is that WE can't fix it. It will take a sane REPUBLICAN with the moxy to take on the crazies and the rich hucksters to shock other Republicans out of their willing stupidity.

It will take nothing less than the Re-Incarnation of Teddy Roosevelt.

I won't hold my breath.

classykaren

(769 posts)
17. Both of them are lying
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:36 PM
Nov 2012

Who would believe either ? A year or so ago our local paper the St Pete Times, ran a story on Walmart they actually told the reporter the average local wage for a Walmart employee was 16.00 per hour. I talked to several employees they don't even know anyone who makes that here in Florida. They said maybe a manager somewere does. The paper printed it as a fact.

Sugarcoated

(7,722 posts)
20. I'm completely and totally done there
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:00 PM
Nov 2012

I was done with Walmart a year ago after just the most unprofessional rude incompetent service I've ever experienced. We've continued to use Sam's for a couple items, but have found them at BJ's for a similar price. Their great price on half and half is matched at Bottom Dollar. I did a walk through at Costco earlier in the week, and I may join.

Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
23. Numbers from The Nation LIVE blog
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:31 PM
Nov 2012

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171430/black-friday-begins-early-walmart-workers-already-striking-least-seven-states#

A year and a half after retail workers announced the founding of a new Walmart employee group, five months after guest workers struck a Walmart seafood supplier, and seven weeks after the country’s first multi-store Walmart strikes, the Black Friday strike has begun.

Walmart stores opened at 8 PM, drawing additional ire from employees required to come into work on Thanksgiving earlier than ever. But workers’ protests got off to an early start too. Around 7:30 PM EST, 30 workers from three Miami stores went on strike, joining 100-plus supporters for one of several nighttime rallies across the country. “It’s been so long that I’ve been working for people that had no respect for me,” Miami striker Elaine Rozier told The Nation. “They retaliated against me, and they always treated me like crap. And I’m so happy that this is history, that my grandkids can learn from this to stand up for themselves.” In the past, said Rozier, “I always used to sit back and not say anything…I’m proud of myself tonight.”

At 9:45 PM CST, workers struck and rallied with supporters outside a store in Dallas; OUR Walmart says that the peaceful crowd was dispersed by police. When workers walked off the job in Kenosha, Wisconsin, the group says that managers kicked customers out of the store on the mistaken assumption that they were there to protest. Workers are also on strike in San Leandro, California, and Clovis, New Mexico. Stores in Ocean City, Maryland; Orlando, Florida; and Baton Rouge, Louisiana each have a single worker out on strike. In St. Cloud, Florida, Walmart associate Lisa Lopez was joined by Congressman-Elect Alan Grayson as she walked out on strike.

At 11:45 PM, labor and community activists demonstrated outside a store in Quincy, Massachusetts, the first of a string of protests that allied groups promise will hit all 48 Walmarts in the state.

OUR Walmart, the union-backed retail worker group that spearheaded last month’s 28-store strikes, promised last month to pull off a “memorable” Black Friday unless Walmart reversed a slew of allegedly retaliatory firings (Walmart hasn’t). Last week, as workers struck Seattle stores and a Mira Loma warehouse, OUR Walmart pledged 1,000 total actions for the nine days leading up to and including today. Workers say that will include flash mobs, rallies, leaflets, sit-ins, and strikes. Retail employees will have back-up from Occupy activists, women’s and consumer groups, and Walmart warehouse workers. But the day’s biggest question may be just how many Walmart store workers choose the risk and the sacrifice of striking. Last month, 160 struck; how many more will join them today?



richmwill

(1,326 posts)
29. This makes me chuckle-
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

"When workers walked off the job in Kenosha, Wisconsin, the group says that managers kicked customers out of the store on the mistaken assumption that they were there to protest."

And, that bugs Walmart. Having worked for a large corporation for several years in the past, they were horrified if any customer or "guest" had a "bad experience" in the store. Those offended customers may now be lost to them forever- I certainly would be offended. Nice way for them to "bite hands that feed them".

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
35. Or does that mean "only 50 employee KEPT THEIR JOBS after joining the protests"?
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 05:23 AM
Nov 2012

We can assume their Excel Pink Slip program got turned on the moment the walkouts began.

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