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Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:05 PM

Israel Warns Gazans to Flee Homes with Leaflets

Source: Associated Press

Israeli warplanes have dropped leaflets on several Gaza City neighborhoods urging people to evacuate their homes immediately.

Tuesday's warnings could signal a new round of heavy airstrikes on residential areas in the Palestinian territory.

The leaflets say "For your safety, you are required to evacuate your residences immediately and move toward central Gaza City" and list areas where people should go.

Palestinian militants have urged residents to ignore the warnings, calling them "psychological warfare."

Read more: http://www.kaaltv.com/article/stories/S2841200.shtml?cat=10728

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Reply Israel Warns Gazans to Flee Homes with Leaflets (Original post)
Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
HERVEPA Nov 2012 #1
msongs Nov 2012 #2
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #5
hack89 Nov 2012 #36
MNBrewer Nov 2012 #3
HERVEPA Nov 2012 #44
MNBrewer Nov 2012 #45
azurnoir Nov 2012 #4
Ash_F Nov 2012 #6
dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #8
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #19
Adsos Letter Nov 2012 #23
Ash_F Nov 2012 #31
Sunlei Nov 2012 #33
The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #7
Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #9
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #20
Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #10
joshcryer Nov 2012 #11
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #14
joshcryer Nov 2012 #15
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #16
Nihil Nov 2012 #35
Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #27
joshcryer Nov 2012 #28
leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #13
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #24
Robb Nov 2012 #34
glacierbay Nov 2012 #40
leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #12
kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #17
Purveyor Nov 2012 #18
oberliner Nov 2012 #25
hack89 Nov 2012 #38
Fumesucker Nov 2012 #21
Purveyor Nov 2012 #22
oberliner Nov 2012 #26
Purveyor Nov 2012 #30
oberliner Nov 2012 #32
Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #41
oberliner Nov 2012 #42
mrf901 Nov 2012 #29
slackmaster Nov 2012 #37
aandegoons Nov 2012 #39
oberliner Nov 2012 #43

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:07 PM

1. Nice that the "militants" are so concerned for the welfare of their people

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:10 PM

2. nice that the Israelites are giving advance notice of their impending atrocities nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:17 PM

5. "Israelites"?

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:24 AM

36. If the population heeds the warnings then there won't be any atrocities. nt

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:12 PM

3. Contrasted with the "concern" for the welfare of the residents of Gaza on the part of the Israelis?

Where are there supposed to go? Gaza isn't THAT big!

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Response to MNBrewer (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:38 PM

44. Israel's targeting is rather specific.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:38 PM

45. "rather specific"

well, that's "rather reassuring".

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:16 PM

4. here is more about Israel's leafletting

During the 2008-9 Israeli military assault on Gaza, the army sent thousands of similar messages to mobile phones in Gaza. But according to several friends and acquaintances who were there, the messages were often either false alarms or designed to sow panic. “What do you do if you receive a message warning you to go a safer place if you are already in the safest place in Gaza, or if you have nowhere to hide?” one friend asked rhetorically.

This same woman — a journalist — said that often the text messages would warn of impending bombardments that did not happen, in a sick version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf.


http://972mag.com/idf-sends-text-message-to-gaza-mobile-phones-the-next-phase-is-on-the-way/60046/

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:19 PM

6. Flee to where?

There aren't exactly many places to run to.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:23 PM

8. Well it is roughly twice the size of DC

Must be lots of places to go.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:49 PM

19. Pretty bullshit article. On NPR the leaflets are being dropped over a specific Northern area

and directing the residents to go to the city central square.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:14 PM

23. You are correct.

Here is a copy of the leaflet text:

Photo of leaflet dropped on Gaza by Israeli military (Photo of leaflet is at site linked)

Translation:

Military Announcement

To the residents of Sheikh Ijleen, Tal al Hawa, Remal al-Janoub, Zeitoun neighbourhood, Shoujaiyat al-Tourkman, Shoujaiyat al-Jadida:

The Israeli military is not targeting any of you and does not want to hurt you or members of your family.

For your own safety, you are requested to evacuate your houses right away and to move towards Gaza city through Cairo Road, Arab League Road, al-Aqsa Road, al-Qadisiya Road, Em el Leymoun, Salaheddine, al-Mansoura, Khalas, Baghdad.

The deployment in Gaza city is limited in the west of Salah al-Din Road, north of Omar al Moukhtar Road, East of Nasr Road, and south of al-Qods Road.

This confrontation is temporary and once it ends everyone will go home.

Obeying the orders of the Israeli military will result in you, civilian residents, not being hurt

The Israeli Defence Army Leadership

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/gaza/photo-leaflet-dropped-gaza-israeli-military


Warning about a very specific area and listing specific corridors of safe travel. Emphasis added.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:03 AM

31. Thanks for the additional info /nt

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:36 AM

33. a clear leaflet. Has anyone read of any group support for the evaced civilian residents?

Is the Red cross on the ground there? I haven't found any charity limited to citizen support.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:21 PM

7. This is not a good sign.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:25 PM

9. Where are they supposed to go? Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth and is

under blockade.

These leaflets are a sick joke.

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Response to Puregonzo1188 (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:50 PM

20. This is a pretty bullshit article. On NPR they were saying that the leaflets were being dropped

in pretty specific northern neighborhoods and the residents were being advised to go to a central city square for safety.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:11 PM

10. Isn't this the very definition of terrorism? "Flee, or we will kill you."

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:18 PM

11. I've never known of a terrorist to give a specific warning like that.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:32 PM

14. You should read about the IRA

They had a system of codewords that they'd contact the media with, so that everyone would know the warning they sent in that they were about to bomb somewhere was genuine. That way, they got to make people panic, do what the IRA told them, and then claim that they had concerns for 'civilians'.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:02 PM

15. They did it beforehand and with ample time to escape?

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:06 PM

16. They placed the bombs, then phoned in that it was about to go off

A bit different from "we will bomb/shell your house tomorrow", but then they didn't have planes or artillery with unlimited movement. People typically had minutes to evacuate the area, though the warning wouldn't be specific enough to allow a bomb disposal squad to find and defuse it in time.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:10 AM

35. Not really - the IRA just liked to play the same PR games as the US military does.

e.g., "They gave a warning" that was for the wrong location (different town ) and also
omitted to "warn" about the second bomb that was placed in the evacuation zone
and timed to detonate a minute or so after the first one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks

In short, the IRA were murdering cowardly fuckers.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:33 PM

27. Really? You must not know very much about terrorism.

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Response to Puregonzo1188 (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:42 PM

28. Got any other examples?

The IRA example is interesting.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:24 PM

13. didnt the us drop leaflets over hiroshima before dropping the bomb

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:27 PM

24. Yes. 5 days notice if I recall correctly. Very few evacuated however. nt

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:48 AM

34. We did it a whole bunch in 1990.

We dropped leaflets via high speed, low level F-18s and F-16s. We addressed them to the particular Iraqi army companies we were showering. Simply said "the next one will be a bomb, not a note."

Remember all those abandoned heavy weapons and long lines of surrendered troops you saw on CNN?

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:30 AM

40. Since when have terrorists given warning?

 

Israel is trying to minimize casualties while Hamas is telling residents to ignore the warnings and hopes to create civilian deaths for their sick propaganda. More proof that Hamas doesn't give a shit about the it's citizens welfare.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:20 PM

12. they should all flee into isreal

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:27 PM

17. And flee to where? Karma will still be a bitch when it comes around!

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:37 PM

18. +1 eom

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:55 PM

25. Very specific locations are identified

The leaflets indicate exactly which areas within Gaza are being targeted and which areas are not.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:26 AM

38. The leaflets give safe areas and safe routes. nt

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:51 PM

21. And hey, we'll let you back in, honest, you can trust us n/t

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:54 PM

22. What? Are there no railroads. eom

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:58 PM

26. Israel has no control over internal movement within Gaza

They are simply indicating very specific areas that are being targeted and urging residents to move to other areas within Gaza that are not.

As over 99.99 percent of the population of Gaza are not being killed or injured, there are presumably many areas that are safe, especially considering how densely populated the territory is.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:58 PM

30. LOL, indeed. Where do you come up with this shit? Seriously. eom

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:49 AM

32. The contents of the leaflets are posted in this thread

Everything else I've written is just undisputed facts. Israel has no control over internal movement in Gaza - and a miniscule percentage of the population of Gaza have been casualties of Israeli attacks.

One would think you would know these things being such an avid follower.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:01 PM

41. So this is just collective punishment/terrorism then? After all if everyone can leave then you

aren't getting the bad guys just blowing up people's stuff for no reason? Kind of like when they bulldoze homes and Olive Trees in the West Bank?

I bet you probably think if your neighbor commits a crime then you should get your house blown up/bulldozed too and if you don't like it--on the spot execution.

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Response to Puregonzo1188 (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:17 PM

42. No

It's an attempt to attack the terrorist infrastructure within Gaza while minimizing the number of civilian casualties - which is not an easy task.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:55 PM

29. Property belonging to Hamas will get blowed up

 

good news for people in the building trades
and others such as metal scrappers

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:25 AM

37. Automatic Rec for bad writing

 

What if your home doesn't have leaflets?

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:28 AM

39. Also known as the hurry up and get out in the open so we can shoot you.

Be safe my friends.

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Response to aandegoons (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:19 PM

43. Actually the opposite of that

Can you really believe this?

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