Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:10 PM
DonViejo (4,463 posts)
GOP’s Benghazi Conspiracy Falls Apart: White House Didn’t Change Susan Rice’s Talking Points
Source: ThinkProgress
By Hamed Aleaziz on Nov 20, 2012 at 10:51 am Intelligence officials told CNN that the intelligence community, not the White House, changed the now infamous Benghazi talking points given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice before her appearance on several morning news shows in September. CNN quoted both the spokesperson for the Director of National Intelligence and an anonymous official “familiar with the drafting of the talking points.” The DNI spokesperson said that the only “substantive changes” came from the intelligence community and not the White House. Former CIA Director David Petraeus told lawmakers in a closed door hearing last week that the CIA’s original assessment on the Sept. 11 Benghazi attack was that it was carried out by al Qaeda affiliated groups. But he reportedly said that analysis was later taken out after an interagency review in favor of a more general assessment that “extremists” carried out the attack to broaden the scope and not tip off terrorists to U.S. knowledge on the matter. And despite the fact that Petraeus said the CIA approved the change, Republicans, led by Republican senators John McCain (AZ), Lindsey Graham (SC) and Kelly Ayotte (NH), have accused the White House of stripping the language for political reasons. But Shawn Turner, the spokesman for the Director of National Intelligence, told CNN that it wasn’t the White House’s decision: “The intelligence community made substantive, analytical changes before the talking points were sent to government agency partners for their feedback. There were no substantive changes made to the talking points after they left the intelligence community.”
Another anonymous intelligence official echoed Turner, saying that the changes were made based on legitimate intelligence and for legal purposes: Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/11/20/1219641/susan-rice-talking-points-cia/
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| DonViejo | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| liberal N proud | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| northoftheborder | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| BlueCaliDem | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #36 | |
| leftyohiolib | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| Mike Daniels | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| leftyohiolib | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| sheshe2 | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| Javaman | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| AlbertCat | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| atreides1 | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
| skip fox | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| The Wielding Truth | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| Dubster | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| heaven05 | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| John2 | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| AgingAmerican | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| sakabatou | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| The Wielding Truth | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| politicaljunkie41910 | Nov 2012 | #31 | |
| AgingAmerican | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
| hrmjustin | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| djean111 | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| Indi Guy | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| Botany | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
| SDjack | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
| mikki35 | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
| 1StrongBlackMan | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| Jackpine Radical | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
| 1StrongBlackMan | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
| Berlum | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
| SleeplessinSoCal | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
| Kingofalldems | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
| chowder66 | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
| behindenemylins | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
| sarcasmo | Nov 2012 | #35 | |
| Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Nov 2012 | #37 |
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:20 PM
northoftheborder (3,434 posts)
2. great image!!!!!!!
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:26 PM
BlueCaliDem (5,194 posts)
5. Perfect image! eom
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:21 PM
leftyohiolib (3,102 posts)
3. watch john mccain and his credibility deflate. crazy grampa shouts at clouds
Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #3)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:26 PM
Mike Daniels (5,284 posts)
4. Crazy grampa shouts at everything nowadays.
Response to Mike Daniels (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:29 PM
leftyohiolib (3,102 posts)
6. as matthews would say "HA , fair enough"
Response to Mike Daniels (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:45 PM
sheshe2 (4,755 posts)
9. It is time to Put the Maverick out to pasture...
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He can live out his days there....and leave us in peace!
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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #3)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
Javaman (40,599 posts)
11. I predict that he's double down on stupidity and still press for an "investigation".
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regardless of the facts.
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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #3)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:39 PM
AlbertCat (10,449 posts)
21. watch john mccain and his credibility deflate.
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Deflate MORE?....what? Into negative space?
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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #3)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:43 PM
atreides1 (10,166 posts)
23. McCain's time is up
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It seems that they have term limits on how long a senator can sit on a committee...Johnny's time as the ranking member on the Armed Services committee is almost up...according to what I saw on Hardball there is one position that is open to him now...ranking member on the Indian Affairs committee!
Holding that position should give him a better ability to deal with non-whites, and maybe teach the arrogant asshat some humility... |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
skip fox (11,924 posts)
7. Surely this time Fox News will apologize
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NOT!!!!!!!
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Response to skip fox (Reply #7)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:02 PM
The Wielding Truth (8,437 posts)
13. Too bad they can't be less controlling and more patriotic. Truth is patriotic.
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:41 PM
Dubster (427 posts)
8. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)
Response to Dubster (Reply #8)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:17 PM
heaven05 (2,369 posts)
18. With
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knowing the truth about Mcdip and his past, his name has only been great
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
John2 (1,714 posts)
10. Apparently
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in their attacks on the Whitehouse, they are trying to leave the CIA and petraeus unscathed. Why hasn't anyone asked Petraeus further, why he thought it was Al Qaeda? Just what connection is there between Ansar Al and Al Qaeda, seeing the Ansar was the only suspect mentioned with a connection? Did they use Al Qaeda as a diversion also? The bottomline here is, not all militia groups in Libya, want democracy, but Sharia law instead. These same groups have also been mentioned in prior attacks to disrupt the process.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:00 PM
AgingAmerican (1,190 posts)
12. Fox and Limbaugh wont mention this though
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The right wing will repeat this 'conspiracy' ad nauseum for the next 30 years anyway.
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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #12)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:03 PM
sakabatou (29,058 posts)
14. Of course they won't. If they told the truth, they'd be out of business
Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #12)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:04 PM
The Wielding Truth (8,437 posts)
15. Reality is that there is no conspiracy. They peddle propaganda.
Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #12)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:06 PM
politicaljunkie41910 (377 posts)
31. It's right up there with the dozens and dozens of black people voting in rural main that
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the Maine GOP party chairman is investigating. There must have been a couple of hundred. Like Pinocchio's nose, the story kept growing even while the man was telling it.
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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #31)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:53 PM
AgingAmerican (1,190 posts)
32. Republicans I work with repeat stuff debunked a decade ago
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They have never heard anything to the contrary. They don't even know the existence of basic recent history or current events. One guy I work with has never heard of Clintons 1993 economic plan. He believes himself to be a history expert, but all he knows are RW talking points. It's pointless even discussing politics or history with him. His mind is too far gone. It's sad in a way and I can't help viewing people like him as victims. They live in mortal fear of all these things that just do not exist.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:15 PM
hrmjustin (8,864 posts)
16. Obama needs to pick a fight and nominate Susan Rice for SOS.
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:16 PM
djean111 (930 posts)
17. You will be comforted to know that the freepers have dismissed this because
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the media are lying lackey lapdogs for the librul dems.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:19 PM
Indi Guy (3,065 posts)
19. Typical of the latter day GOP, when the lies fail to convince - stay the course...
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...and double down when things get desperate.
McCain's untruths are not unlike Romney's emphatic and cynical lies re: Chrysler shipping jobs to China -- which are not unlike Bush's intractable lies re: WMD (which, ironically enough, were propagated by the soon to be Secretary of State, one Condoleezza Rice, whom McCain unblinkingly voted to confirm). ...So much home-grown bad faith by the GOP. Is it no wonder that, weary of the steady onslaught of transparently deceitful propaganda, the majority of the public voted against the corrosive snake-belly politics of lowest common denominator? ...Where politicians, when desperate, race not to the right left or center -- but to the very bottom? |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:31 PM
Botany (36,027 posts)
20. And would I be wrong to expect an apology from John McCain this afternoon?
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do i need to add this?
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
SDjack (1,063 posts)
22. Pres. Obama warned Sen. McGrampy to back off, but Mc
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didn't. So, the Prez rolled up the talking points and shoved them up Mc's ass. Then, he laughed all the way back to the White House.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:48 PM
mikki35 (98 posts)
24. The age of irrelevancy is upon him...
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Dude seriously needs to learn when to shut up.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:00 PM
1StrongBlackMan (5,373 posts)
25. But we all know ...
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that one appearance of McCain and/or Graham spouting baseless "facts", equals any number of intelligence or administration officials. Especially when MSNBC allows people like King to say, "Yes, the CIA and DNI both signed off on the talking points; but we don't know who approved the talking points."
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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #25)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jackpine Radical (36,565 posts)
26. That's sorta like "Joe made that comment, but
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we don't know who said it."
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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #26)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:06 PM
1StrongBlackMan (5,373 posts)
33. Exactly.
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And the media stands for it.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:10 PM
Berlum (3,679 posts)
27. Freaking Republicans and their lies
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tiresome fools.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:36 PM
SleeplessinSoCal (1,631 posts)
28. Good to read this, but I'm so tired of having to depend on ThinkProgress for facts.
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This shouldn't have to be relegated to a progressive think tank. It should be on all networks and cable news coming from their own reporters.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:41 PM
Kingofalldems (11,055 posts)
29. Hahaha
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Repubs lose another one. Not a good month.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:04 PM
chowder66 (1,209 posts)
30. The hypocrisy is thick with this bunch - Republicans.
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Republicans saying this is the White House politicizing when it is not.... so the Republicans politicize it.
These people are useless and stand in the way of the peoples business. McCain and anyone who supported this bullcrap needs to be run out of office. |
Response to chowder66 (Reply #30)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:30 PM
behindenemylins (41 posts)
34. Atwater tactic
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Last edited Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:33 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) Start a bunch of pointless bullshit, then with their usual lemming chorus, point the finger elsewhere.
First time I can remember that protocol was with (drumroll) Willie Horton's "days off". Signed by Reagan; pointed at Dukakis. Quite honestly, that very matter was what interested me in being a Democrat at age 13. Read it in "The Union Builder" where they got to the bottom of it, but obviously it didn't catch fire with the media since they were in the tank for Mr. Broccoli. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:32 AM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (6,600 posts)


