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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:16 PM

Star Member Purveyor (13,201 posts)

Obama Warns Against ‘Ramping Up’ in Gaza Crisis

Source: Associated Press

By Associated PressNov. 18, 2012

(BANGKOK) — President Barack Obama said Sunday an incursion by Israel‘s forces into the Gaza Strip could only deepen its death toll, cautioning against an escalation even as he defended the Jewish state’s right to defend itself. Obama also warned Palestinians the crisis could crush peace hopes for years.

“Israel has every right to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory,” Obama said at the start of a three-nation tour in Asia.

“If that can be accomplished without a ramping up of military activity in Gaza, that’s preferable,” he said. “It’s not just preferable for the people of Gaza. It’s also preferable for Israelis, because if Israeli troops are in Gaza, they’re much more at risk of incurring fatalities or being wounded.”

Obama’s comments came as Israel’s campaign against Hamas militants in Gaza blasted into its fifth day. Israel is at a crossroads of whether to launch a ground invasion or pursue Egyptian-led truce efforts. Obama sought to defend the U.S. ally’s rights while pushing for a halt in the violence.


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Reply Obama Warns Against ‘Ramping Up’ in Gaza Crisis (Original post)
 Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
LineReply Awww - how cute
 ann--- Nov 2012 #1
LineLineReply Get Hamas to a negotiating table?
 Fozzledick Nov 2012 #3
LineLineReply I
 John2 Nov 2012 #6
LineLineNew Reply We should just stay out of it.
 Daniel537 Nov 2012 #16
LineReply They aren't listening.
 lalalu Nov 2012 #2
LineReply Just shown on UK TV news
 dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #4
LineReply Who started it?
 Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #5
LineLineNew Reply Great Britain n/t
 Scootaloo Nov 2012 #8
LineLineLineNew Reply Best answer ever.
 Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #9
LineLineLineLineNew Reply See : Balfour Declaration.
 dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #13
LineNew Reply Although it's expected that the U.S. President supports Israel,
 BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #7
LineLineNew Reply no matter what the president does he's in a no win situation, with the Republicans looking for
 Katashi_itto Nov 2012 #10
LineLineLineNew Reply Well that's not gonna work.
 truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #11
LineLineLineNew Reply So, this president should base all decidions
 Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #14
LineNew Reply The geometry of this situation is very complex.
 truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #12
LineNew Reply So many of our top diplomats
 Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #15

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:20 PM

ann--- (564 posts)

1. Awww - how cute

that Obama has concerns about Israeli soldiers being harmed if they INVADE Palestine again. He should tell them to STAY OUT and both sides get to the negotiating table.

Can't stand the Dem posture on this issue.

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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:27 PM

Fozzledick (2,098 posts)

3. Get Hamas to a negotiating table?

Now you're just being silly.

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Response to ann--- (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:50 PM

John2 (1,728 posts)

6. I

certainly agree with you here. The only way they can take care of Hamas is to send in ground forces, instead of killing innocent civilians. Their lives should mean just as much as innocent Israeli lives. President Obama needs to lead on this issue instead of giving Israel a blank check. You either go all in or you don't. What needs to be done is order both sides to cease fire and send people directly in to settle the problem.

The United States needs to reopen negotiatiions and make both sides come to the table, just like President Clinton was doing before his second term ended. Clinton ran out of time before he got this done. Obama needs to pick it back up. He needs to get a two state solution period and not just wish it would happen. As far as I'm concerned, the United States does have all the cards if they would use them. They can pressure Israel, the Palestinians and the Egyptians. Everyone of the participants depend on U.S. assistance in some form.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:20 AM

Daniel537 (1,044 posts)

16. We should just stay out of it.

We need a much more hands-off foreign policy. Picking sides in these conflicts is what always gets us into entanglements. What we should be doing is ending all foreign military aid worldwide. If these countries want to fight each other, let them do it with their own money. Sick of us propping up all these elitists while the average working class person suffers.

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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:25 PM

lalalu (1,663 posts)

2. They aren't listening.

 

They are like a bunch of rowdy school kids.

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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:34 PM

Star Member dipsydoodle (32,636 posts)

4. Just shown on UK TV news

Cluster bombs being trucked to the front by Israel - visible markings on vehcile loads.

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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:38 PM

Star Member Rosa Luxemburg (22,003 posts)

5. Who started it?

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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:40 PM

Star Member Scootaloo (5,874 posts)

8. Great Britain n/t

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:18 PM

Puregonzo1188 (1,948 posts)

9. Best answer ever.

Though I fear your humor will be lost on some here.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:26 AM

Star Member dipsydoodle (32,636 posts)

13. See : Balfour Declaration.

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:34 PM

Star Member BlueCaliDem (5,252 posts)

7. Although it's expected that the U.S. President supports Israel,

and her right to defend herself in a hostile territory, it appears that President Obama does not want Israel to begin a war against Palestine. And that's a good thing.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:18 AM

Katashi_itto (1,644 posts)

10. no matter what the president does he's in a no win situation, with the Republicans looking for

anything to build a scandal and impeach him on. They are a pack of rabid dogs.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:42 AM

truthisfreedom (17,677 posts)

11. Well that's not gonna work.

Obama's got this.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:55 AM

Star Member Le Taz Hot (14,434 posts)

14. So, this president should base all decidions

on what the Republicans MIGHT do? That's a pretty damned weak position.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:45 AM

truthisfreedom (17,677 posts)

12. The geometry of this situation is very complex.

And, as usual, Obama has put his best people on it. There will be an outcome.

I repeat, there WILL be an outcome. Things just keep moving incrementally excremental. But not to worry.

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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:59 AM

Star Member Le Taz Hot (14,434 posts)

15. So many of our top diplomats

resigned during the * administration, it's times like these when those resignations are deeply felt. Not to mention the loss of one of our greatest: Richard Holbrooke. Where is our S.O.S. on this? This situation has already escalated greatly in just a matter of days and it shows no sign of slowing down unless there is an intervention allowing for a cease fire.

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