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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:30 AM

Man Convicted of a Terrorist Plot to Bomb Subways Is Sent to Prison for Life

Source: NYT

A man who was convicted of plotting with two friends to carry out a coordinated suicide attack on New York City subways was sentenced to life in prison on Friday.

Federal authorities deemed the plan one of the most dangerous terrorist plots against the city.

The man, Adis Medunjanin, 28, who was born in Bosnia and grew up in Queens, was considered the heart and soul of the plot though not its mastermind the one whose increasingly radical beliefs in Islam inspired him and two high school friends to participate in jihad. They went to Pakistan with the hope of joining the Taliban in the fight against American troops and wound up at a training camp run by Al Qaeda.

During the brief sentencing hearing in Federal District Court in Brooklyn on Friday, Mr. Medunjanin, wearing a crumpled black suit, and his long hair swept behind his ears, spent several minutes singing verses from the Koran.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/nyregion/adis-medunjanin-convicted-of-subway-bomb-plot-gets-life-sentence.html

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Reply Man Convicted of a Terrorist Plot to Bomb Subways Is Sent to Prison for Life (Original post)
alp227 Nov 2012 OP
lexw Nov 2012 #1
lexw Nov 2012 #3
Yo_Mama Nov 2012 #7
sigmasix Nov 2012 #2
renate Nov 2012 #5
Ash_F Nov 2012 #4
They_Live Nov 2012 #6
bettyellen Nov 2012 #8

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:56 AM

1. Religion is a joke.

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Response to lexw (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:59 AM

3. My mistake: fairy tales are a joke.

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Response to lexw (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:39 PM

7. But it is an ideology that justified killing masses of other people that is the concern

Breivik, for example, was not motivated by religion, yet he seems to have created an ideology that allowed the random killing of masses of people for no reason.

It's best to be precise about these matters.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:09 AM

2. fundamentalism is a foul blight on humanity

Many blame this sort of stuff on religion, and in some very narrow ways they are correct, but ONLY in those very narrow ways; we never see liberal religious practicioners responsible for this sort of thing. The fundamentalists in ANY religion are the culprits. Faith is a monumentally important factor in many people's lives, but they dont choose to follow the pathway to hatred and bigotry towards the non-believers unless they are led, educated and ministered to by fundamentalist priests, preachers, mullahs or rabbis with ties to and arrangments with organizations that benefit from fundamentalist-inspired laws, legislation and cultural influence.
So please make sure you've got the correct enemy in your sites when you want to lay blame for the inhuman evil that is terrorism. Not Islam, not Christianity, not judaism nor hindu or buddhists are responsible for this stuff- it's the radical elements within these belief structures that always do the damage. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water...wouldn't be pragmatic or progressive.

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Response to sigmasix (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:54 AM

5. I agree

I can't think, off the top of my head, of any religion whose official tenets aren't essentially based on the golden rule. While I'll admit that I haven't made a study of any religion, let alone all of them, it does seem to me to be the fundamentalism and commercialism (depending on the religion) that turn the ideas into something horrible. And, most of all, what you said about how we never see liberal religious practitioners coming up with plots and violence is the important thing to keep in mind.

Welcome to DU!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:23 AM

4. Wow, a plot that did not actually involve entrapment.

First time since 9/11? Good on law enforcement, assuming the info is correct.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:26 AM

6. It is still unclear to me

if these people actually had any explosives, or if they only had "household materials" to make the explosives.

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Response to They_Live (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:39 PM

8. they seemed to have abandoned the plot because on caught on he was under surveillance. but he had

been told if he couldn't make a good bomb to kill many at rush hour, opening fire on a large group of people would please his terrorist trainers just as well. So he had options, and did try to go out in a blaze of glory crashing his car. Crazy.
Fuck waiting for them to mix explosives and get on the subway.

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