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Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:41 PM

Judge sides with company on contraceptive coverage

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Friday temporarily prevented the Obama administration from forcing a Christian publishing company to provide its employees with certain contraceptives under the new health care law.

U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton granted a preliminary injunction sought by Tyndale House Publishers, which doesn’t want to provide employees with contraceptives that it equates with abortion.

At issue are contraceptives such as Plan B and IUDs. If a woman already is pregnant, the Plan B pill has no effect. It prevents ovulation or fertilization of an egg, and according to the medical definition, pregnancy doesn’t begin until a fertilized egg implants itself into the wall of the uterus. The Plan B pill may also be able to prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus. IUDs mainly work by blocking sperm but may also have the same uterus effect. To Tyndale, these methods are not morally different than abortion.

Tyndale, based in Carol Stream, Ill., says it provides its 260 employees with coverage for some contraceptives. The company and its president and CEO, Mark D. Taylor, filed the lawsuit against the Health and Human Services Department last month.

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DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Scairp Nov 2012 #1
defacto7 Nov 2012 #2
PSPS Nov 2012 #3
eggplant Nov 2012 #4
high density Nov 2012 #5
XemaSab Nov 2012 #6
kmlisle Nov 2012 #7

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:50 PM

1. Fuck their morals

Why are their morals allowed to interfer in the lives of their female employees? They will lose in the end. Equating birth control, with terminating a pregnancy is utter stupidity so how these idiots even get a hearing on arguments that aren't medically valid is beyond me. And women are sick of this shit so these right wing ideologues may win a few battles but in the end they will lose the war.

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Response to Scairp (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:04 PM

2. What morals?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:24 PM

3. "forcing a Christian publishing company to provide its employees"

A federal judge on Friday temporarily prevented the Obama administration from forcing a Christian publishing company to provide its employees with certain contraceptives under the new health care law.

Um, no. Nobody is "forcing" any employer, this one included, to "provide its employees" anything. It's the insurance company that is providing things, based on the policy and the premiums paid. Since birth control is a prescription, it is paid for by the insurance plan just like any other prescription. If the fundies don't like the fact that "certain" prescriptions are written and filled and then paid for by the insurance policy, they should opt for some kind of special "fundie" group policy that specifically excludes "certain" prescriptions (written by doctors allied with satan, no doubt.)

As for the argument that "contraception coverage increases the premium," ask any insurance actuary. They will tell you it has no effect on premiums at all.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:38 PM

4. providing contraception LOWERS insurance costs.

and we all know that the employer's argument is complete bullshit. The employer isn't paying for the contraception. The insurance company is.

This'll get smacked down, but it sucks that the country can't just get on with it already.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:56 PM

5. Well there's the law and then there's your morals

Employers are things that can't take contraceptives so they should have no say in the matter.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:00 PM

6. If their employees are good Christians, then those options won't be used

If they're not good Christians, then a company is forcing its beliefs on its employees.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:17 PM

7. Why is does the company have a right to choose whether these women get contraception?

What happened to the rights of the women involved? Corporate and institutional rights are more important than individual rights? When did this happen and why shouldn't the women also be able to act according to their conscience? I think this whole thing has been turned upside down.

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