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Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:45 PM

White House: Fiscal Cliff Talks ‘Constructive’

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IGOR BOBIC 12:37 PM EST, FRIDAY NOVEMBER 16, 2012

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said President Obama and top congressional leaders had a "constructive meeting" at the White House on Friday on the so-called "fiscal cliff," and that such conversations would continue while the president travels to Asia later this month:

Today, the President met with the bipartisan, bicameral leadership of Congress at the White House for over an hour. The President and the leadership had a constructive meeting and agreed to do everything possible to find a solution that averts the so-called “fiscal cliff,” and to work together to find a balanced approach to reduce our deficit that includes both revenues and cuts in spending and encourages our long-term economic and job growth. Both sides agreed that while there may be differences in our preferred approaches, we will continue a constructive process to find a solution and come to a conclusion as soon as possible. Members of the President’s senior team will continue meetings and discussions with Members of Congress and staff over the next several days while the President travels in Asia.

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DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Dubster Nov 2012 #1
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #2
peacebird Nov 2012 #3
Doctor_J Nov 2012 #4
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #5
Doctor_J Nov 2012 #8
John2 Nov 2012 #6
Doctor_J Nov 2012 #9
Billsmile Nov 2012 #7
Liberalynn Nov 2012 #10

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:00 PM

1. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:05 PM

2. I read those words ...

and was immediately transported to a labor negotiation that I was involved with many years ago. (I was on the Labor side of the table)

We went into the negotiations with management full of bluster and fury ... demanding wage and benefit give-backs and draconian work-rule changes, and swearing that if we didn't cede to their demands, it would be doom ... doom I tell you.

But we went into the negotiations with management's entire strategy (thank you, Ms. Jenny ... a frequently shat upon "just a secretary") and the knowledge of a pending huge and time sensitive service contract (thank you, Mark ... a Business Development Agent, from a 3rd generation Union family).

I recall we came out of the first day's negotiation saying the meeting was "constructive" and that we were "optimistic that we could come to terms in short order" and management came out of the meeting saying "No Comment."

At the end of negotiations (three days later), we put to the membership a contract that entailed no wage cuts, no loss of benefits, no work-rule changes; but the creation of a significant profit-sharing pool.

Maybe it's wishful thinking; but language matters.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:34 PM

3. I hope you are correct!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:09 PM

4. If they're using the term "fiscal cliff", they're losing

There is no fiscal cliff. That's a Big Media/GOP talking point. It's just like when the president during his first term said, "some Dems are too tied to entitlements", and "Big Business is feeling uncertainty". Bad vibes.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:55 PM

5. No ...

the "fiscal cliff" terminology puts far more pressure on the gop than the Democrats.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:10 PM

8. That's another meme we were fed during term 1

"By moving all the way to the right the president is putting the pressure on the Repukes". Surprised anyone still believes it. The way the president can put pressure on the terrorists is by stating clearly a populist policy, and then sticking to it. If he talks like a Republican, people will vote Republican at the mid-terms again.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:05 PM

6. The

 

question is, did President Obama agree as Boehner claims, to kick the ball down the road and extend all of the Bush taxcuts? That is very unclear with what Boehner claims. If this is the case, then he caved.

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Response to John2 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:14 PM

9. There wouldn't be any question if Obama would

stake out his position clearly, and, if Boner is lying about it, then say that. Plouffe and Axelrod ran an excellent campaign, now it's time for the president to actually be a leader and stand up for the people who voted for him

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:31 PM

7. The Fiscal Cliff is Actually a "Fiscal Bluff" nfm

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:21 PM

10. As long as the DEM Leaders don't cave and agree on cuts to Medicare and SS

I am willing to be cautiously hopeful

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