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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:58 PM

Deaths reported after train crashes into trailer during Texas veterans parade

Source: Fox

DEVELOPING -- Multiple deaths and dozens of injuries were reported after a train crashed into a trailer carrying veterans during a parade in Texas.

At least four deaths have been reported and at least 17 people were injured, 10 of them critically.

A flatbed 18-wheeler truck was reportedly carrying 24 veterans and their spouses for the "Hunt for Heroes" parade in Midland when it was hit by a train.

--snip--

He says there are "multiple, multiple" injuries and organizers still are trying to account for everyone.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/15/train-reportedly-crashes-into-trailer-during-texas-veterans-parade/




(image from story at link)

More at the link as the story unfolds. What a nightmare!

PB

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Reply Deaths reported after train crashes into trailer during Texas veterans parade (Original post)
Poll_Blind Nov 2012 OP
Brickbat Nov 2012 #1
efhmc Nov 2012 #2
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #3
defacto7 Nov 2012 #4
LisaL Nov 2012 #8
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #9
defacto7 Nov 2012 #11
Ash_F Nov 2012 #14
JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #21
Ash_F Nov 2012 #23
snooper2 Nov 2012 #29
LisaL Nov 2012 #31
snooper2 Nov 2012 #32
LisaL Nov 2012 #33
LisaL Nov 2012 #30
ManiacJoe Nov 2012 #40
Ash_F Nov 2012 #41
jberryhill Nov 2012 #26
silvershadow Nov 2012 #5
Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #7
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #6
jberryhill Nov 2012 #27
jsr Nov 2012 #10
Skittles Nov 2012 #12
MisterScruffles Nov 2012 #13
AngryOldDem Nov 2012 #16
RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #17
kentauros Nov 2012 #36
efhmc Nov 2012 #18
cordelia Nov 2012 #19
Paladin Nov 2012 #20
truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #15
Aerows Nov 2012 #22
happyslug Nov 2012 #24
Ash_F Nov 2012 #25
Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #28
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #34
Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #37
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #38
Brickbat Nov 2012 #35
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #39

Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:05 PM

1. There are gates there -- WTF?

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:34 PM

2. How horrible. Can't even think how this might have happened.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:13 PM

3. You can see for miles in Midland.

What the hell was that driver trying to prove?

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:10 PM

4. The gates, the lights working,

the train horn blowing, the truck still going through.... something is missing here.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:12 AM

8. I am guessing the gate closed after the truck already moved into the tracks.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:46 AM

9. I read that in the comments on one news article--that the second

parade float was stopped on the tracks by traffic in front of it and then the train approached and the gate arms came down on them. I feel bad for the vets, but also for the train crew. The truck driver screwed the pooch and killed his passengers.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:47 AM

11. That makes more sense

but that would make it the truck drivers fault. You are not supposed to enter a train crossing with a truck until all possible obstructions have moved. In other words, you have to see what's going on ahead and know you can cross unhindered before getting anywhere near the tracks.

It's such a terrible accident.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:13 AM

14. I still don't quite understand how this happened.

Even if the arms came down, how could they stop the truck from getting out of the way? I have seen a vehicle hit one of those gate arms before. They snapped right off.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:56 AM

21. If there was a line of traffic

Maybe the truck driver couldn't go forward or back up because of traffic. It's still the truck driver's fault, should have made sure he could clear the tracks before venturing into the intersection.

But I'm sure he knows that.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:51 AM

23. Kind of makes sense but he could have cut the wheel hard and gone off the road.

They were about to get hit by a train, who cares about staying on the road? The area looks relatively flat from the picture so I doubt it would have been obstructed. Maybe he didn't think of it in the heat of the moment

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:18 AM

29. exactly, or push the fucking cars in front of you, you just don't sit there..

One stupid human in control of something he/she shouldn't have been.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:27 AM

31. Considering all the people were sitting in chairs on truck bed, pushing the cars in front

sure as hell doesn't sound safe either. In addition, I believe it was another similar size truck in front of him, not cars.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:40 AM

32. we can break this down pretty easily, get hit by a big ass train-

Do anything else-

Here is what you can do with a semi when you aren't worried about scratching the paint-

Start at 1:40 in video-

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:49 AM

33. Unless we can invent a time machine, it's a pretty pointless argument.

And considering there were people sitting on truck bed, a truck pushing a truck in front of him could still have resulted in injuries.
From the standpoint of traffic rules, you shouldn't move into the railroad tracks until you have enough room to safely cross them.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:25 AM

30. I have no clue how he could have gone of the road.

Presumably he shouldn't have been attempting to cross the tracks until the way was clear.
I guess we have to see what investigation shows, but presumably train has the right of way.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:16 PM

40. Yes, the train has the right of way.

Legally and physically.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:07 PM

41. After seeing some new pictures of the scene....

It looks like the train just barely tagged the back end of the trailer so they were almost clear. I was just trying to figure out what the driver was thinking. I guess he thought that he had pulled forward far enough. But almost wasn't good enough and we had this tragedy.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:45 AM

26. It was in the middle of a parade - there was no room to turn out


Someone planned a parade route over a grade crossing.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:11 PM

5. I don't quite get this story yet...What were 24 veterans doing already aboard a trailer if they were

not on the parade route? Surely a parade route would NOT cross a RR track. Why didn't the veterans board the parade vehicle at the starting point? Oy, my head hurts.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:55 PM

7. From what I read, these were "wounded warriors" and so their mobility may have been...

...severely limited. In other words, it may have been easier to get them onto the float at the original location. Also, I believe this was a real small-town kinda thing and I think what may have happened is that they all climbed aboard and kind of rolled through some areas as-is before the proper parade started.

Those are just some things I'm putting together. Don't know if I'm putting them together correctly, though.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:45 PM

6. How the HELL do you not see a giant intermodal train

in flat treeless daylight-sunny Midland, Texas bearing down on you? Blowing its horn, ringing a bell, no less. Teh stoopid.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:47 AM

27. It was in the middle of a slow moving parade


Everyone saw the train. The driver was blowing the horn to get the vehicle in front of it to move.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:00 AM

10. Most likely caused by Texas-sized idiocy

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Response to jsr (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:43 AM

12. please - there's a time for that and it surely is not here

this is extremely tragic

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Response to jsr (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:59 AM

13. Not funny

 

Not at all.

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Response to jsr (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 05:53 AM

16. -1,000

I've NEVER understood this kind of post when people die.

Not funny.

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Response to jsr (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:16 AM

17. Don't worry

Most here are overly sensitive about Texas. If this was a Florida story they would be laughing with you.

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:00 PM

36. No, we wouldn't.

It could have happened in your home state and we still wouldn't have been laughing

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Response to jsr (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:56 AM

18. Was waiting for it and you came through with the usual

hate. Low even for your group.

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Response to jsr (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:24 AM

19. Disgusting.

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Response to jsr (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:42 AM

20. Feel Better, Now?

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 05:40 AM

15. Pure tragedy.

I'm sure the driver will face horrific charges, but the entire story is pure tragedy. RIP to those who died, best of luck to those injured and my wishes for a speedy recovery, and thanks to all for your sacrifice to our country. And on behalf of my less sensitive DU associates, I apologize. Fall in line, DUers. This is nothing to make fun of.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:41 AM

22. Awful for everyone involved

How did the driver not see the train coming?

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Response to happyslug (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:33 AM

25. Looks like they were almost clear

...and the train caught the end of the trailer causing it to fold to the left and probably crushing people who had just dismounted. Maybe the driver thought he was clear?

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:58 AM

28. That organizer is gonna get sued for his next four lifetimes....

Absolutely NOTHING looks safe about that seating arrangement at all, even if moving at "parade idle" speeds...

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And if the itinerary meant they had to cross train tracks, then it is up to the organizer/driver to plan ahead and at least get the timetable of expected crossings...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:41 AM

34. Had they called Union Pacific beforehand, the engineer and conductor

would have gone at a restricted speed thru the area and would have at least had a heads-up.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #34)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:29 PM

37. Even before that...

Just setting people on a flatbed to get pulled by that big-assed rig? IMO it's negligent to put able-bodied people on there, but the disabled(!?)

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:54 PM

38. Yeah, really...what could go wrong with tying down

a bunch of dining-room chairs to a flatbed trailer and hauling amputees and the wheelchair-bound around town and over active railroad tracks?

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:45 AM

35. Thinking of the train crew today.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:58 PM

39. Yes--I know they are probably traumatized and

must feel awful--in fact, many train crew members are veterans, themselves. Railroads are one of the biggest employers of former military.

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