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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:36 AM

Petraeus Scandal: Paula Broadwell in Classified Document Probe

Source: ABC News

Paula Broadwell, the author who allegedly had an affair with former CIA Director David Petraeus, is suspected of storing significant amounts of military documents, including classified material, at her home, potentially in violation of federal law.

A source familiar with case told ABC News that Broadwell admitted to the FBI she took the documents from secure government buildings. The government demanded that they all be given back, and when federal agents descended on her North Carolina home on Monday night it was a pre-arranged meeting.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/petraeus-scandal-paula-broadwell-classified-document-probe/story?id=17714560



Wow! Broadwell admitted to the FBI she took the documents from secure government buildings.

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Reply Petraeus Scandal: Paula Broadwell in Classified Document Probe (Original post)
Little Star Nov 2012 OP
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #1
frazzled Nov 2012 #4
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #5
Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #10
kskiska Nov 2012 #15
csziggy Nov 2012 #34
WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #20
Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #29
glinda Nov 2012 #40
geek tragedy Nov 2012 #13
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #16
frazzled Nov 2012 #17
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #18
noamnety Nov 2012 #22
DCKit Nov 2012 #30
Kali Nov 2012 #36
Berlum Nov 2012 #12
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #2
Little Star Nov 2012 #6
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #8
Blasphemer Nov 2012 #28
Little Star Nov 2012 #31
Marrah_G Nov 2012 #32
TorchTheWitch Nov 2012 #43
leveymg Nov 2012 #7
Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #3
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #9
Little Star Nov 2012 #11
phiddle Nov 2012 #23
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #33
Kali Nov 2012 #37
glinda Nov 2012 #41
TorchTheWitch Nov 2012 #44
gordianot Nov 2012 #14
kickysnana Nov 2012 #19
gordianot Nov 2012 #42
bigdarryl Nov 2012 #21
olddad56 Nov 2012 #24
phiddle Nov 2012 #25
Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #26
lalalu Nov 2012 #27
Little Star Nov 2012 #35
Kali Nov 2012 #38
Little Star Nov 2012 #39

Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:40 AM

1. South Korea says they will fire her from her position as honorary consul...

The shit's hit the international fan of intrigue!

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Response to barnabas63 (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:43 AM

4. That was the other bimbo

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Response to frazzled (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:46 AM

5. I wondered that...I get the bimbos mixed up sometimes....

Thanks.

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Response to barnabas63 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:03 AM

10. Here's how to tell which is which

Broadwell has the arm muscles.

Kelly has the nicer figure.

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Response to Andy Stanton (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:16 AM

15. And Kelley's the one

with the psychologically unstable twin.

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Response to kskiska (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:13 PM

34. Are we sure that only one of the twins is psychologically unstable?

Jill Kelley has got to be a little nuts to think that an "honorary consul general" title would give her diplomatic immunity!

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Response to Andy Stanton (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:45 AM

20. Kelly has the nicer figure? Really?

I assume you're basing that on the size of her breasts?

Honestly, neither one of them is all that attractive in my estimation.

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Response to WeekendWarrior (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:53 AM

29. You assume correctly

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Response to Andy Stanton (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:56 PM

40. I thought they were the Kardashian sisters......

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Response to frazzled (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:11 AM

13. Ugh, please no sexism. She's not admirable at all, but she's also

not a bimbo--West Point grad, masters degree, high school valedictorian, etc.

Women who commit adultery are no less intelligent than the man they sleep with.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:31 AM

16. Behavior defines who you are...

Not going to get into a discussion with you, but if someone behaves in a way that fits the description...

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:37 AM

17. I would describe Petraeus as a bimbo, too

I'm sorry, but I'm not all that impressed with Ms. Broadwell's pumped-up credentials. (As little as I am with Petraeus's self-important medal wearing and self-promotion). I'd call her more the product of ambition than intellect. It's not an earth-shattering accomplishment to be valedictorian of Century High School in Bismarck, South Dakota. (I was saludatorian of my high school, which was four times as large in population--there were more than a thousand in my graduating class--and I've never considered myself hot shit.) People get into West Point for having good grades (millions do that), usually participating in ROTC or similar interests, and getting a recommendation from a congressman. I'm not saying it's nothing, or that she isn't bright. Just that she's one of many bright young women. But is she that bright? I've listened to at least three of her interviews. She's no intellectual by any means. And her book was "ghost written" by Vernon Loeb. Why was that necessary?

Everything she's done in life seems to be the result of connections she has culled, from West Point to the Kennedy School (which is not the same as being at "Harvard" really), as much as from personal credentials.

My point in calling both of these ambitious and successful people bimbos has to do with their behavior. Both are self-promoting, have little humility, and carried on stupid, risky extra-marital affairs that could be career-ending. That last alone qualifies anyone, male or female, for the bimbo category.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:40 AM

18. +1 nt

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Response to frazzled (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:55 AM

22. I understand your logic in this post but

if you say "that was the other bimbo" the phrasing reveals a belief that there are only two bimbos involved in the scandal (the women, not the men). Hence the pointing out of sexist thought patterns. I belief most of us can see the influence of cultural values on us - so I wouldn't go into attack mode here, but pointing it out is fine as an awareness tool.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:55 AM

30. That's "Himbo". nt

 

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Response to frazzled (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:17 PM

36. bimbo?

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Response to barnabas63 (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:08 AM

12. Republican Party says they are, um, they are...they are going to go AWOL on this.

Their plan is to um, boldly, um, to lay low in their crypt for a while and see how much shit lands on them

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:40 AM

2. I'm sick of seeing these people do shit like this

and officials are wishy-washy about whether they'll be punished or not. If it's found that she broke the law, then she should face the consequences of breaking the law. Why should someone busted for a small amount of pot be sentenced harshly and someone handling classified info gets a slap on the wrist.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:48 AM

6. How& why did she get into a secure government building in the first place? n/t

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Response to Little Star (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:51 AM

8. Secret rendevous place???

Maybe she was diddling the general there?? Just a guess.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:41 AM

28. She was a military intelligence officer with security clearance

Prosecutors are now determining whether to charge Broadwell with a crime, and this morning the FBI and military are pouring over the material. The 40-year-old author, who wrote the biography on Gen. Petraeus "All In," is cooperating and the case, which is complicated by the fact that as an intelligence officer in the U.S. Military Reserve she had security clearance to review the documents.


I imagine it would have been very easy for her to get access to the buildings and those documents. The real question is what specific documents she was interested in and why. If they are all related to the Petraeus biography, it's much less scandalous than if she continued to acquire documents after the book was written for some other purpose.

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Response to Blasphemer (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:29 PM

31. Thank you for pointing that out.

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Response to Blasphemer (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:40 PM

32. It depends on what the documents were

I know that with top secret clearance it doesn't mean you can see everything, you still have to have a valid "need to know".

And like my son told me last night "need-to-know doesn't include 'because I want to" as a need.... I tried that ~grin~"

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Response to Little Star (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:15 AM

43. she had security clearance

She was entitled to review the documents but there MAY be a problem with her security of them as in having them in her home and on her computer. How and why she had them should be obvious - Petraeus. He hired her to be his biographer to write and speak glowingly about him and kept her glued to his side. Of course she was given access to all the info from him for that purpose - it was the entire reason she was there at all. This isn't about HER it's about PETRAEUS and his self-promoting bloated ego trumping all.


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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:50 AM

7. A whistleblower would have been arrested and her house torn apart. Lover boy's, too.

Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:20 AM - Edit history (2)

They aren't treating this that way. It's who you know, not what you know, that determines how the investigation goes.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:41 AM

3. One suspects

that Ms Broadwell's life is not going to be particularly pleasant for the foreseeable future.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:54 AM

9. My suspicion meter went up when it was reported she did not even write the book.

The book was written by a ghost writer.
I am wondering what kind of a financial "win" deal was set up for her.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:08 AM

11. Good point. I'm glad they are investigating to make sure she..

didn't have classified information.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:20 AM

23. I'd also like to know how she initially met Petraeus.

An official of his stature is not easy to access, yet she ended up as his biographer despite a total lack of credentials.

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Response to phiddle (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:09 PM

33. Slate has the answer at to how they met:

Paula Broadwell, the woman with whom he had this affair, writes in her fawning biography of Petraeus that they first met when she was in graduate school at Harvard and he came to give a talk about counterinsurgency strategy. She approached him afterward and expressed interest in the subject; they exchanged cards. Soon, she decided to write a Ph.D. dissertation on his leadership style and, when he took command in Afghanistan, asked if she could come observe him in action. He agreed.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/11/david_petraeus_s_affair_with_paula_broadwell_why_did_an_accomplished_and.html

I am trying to figure out how a civilian can end up in Afghanistan with the head General, go on long morning runs, have bed and board in the General's barracks or housing or whatever.
Thought Afghanistan was considered a war zone....

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:28 PM

37. she wasn't/isnt a civilian

I believe she is in reserves and is a major...

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:58 PM

41. She didn't write the book? wow.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:28 AM

44. she's not an author

She's a biographer, and plenty of people use ghost writers since they either aren't good enough writers or don't have the time or inclination to do the writing themselves. Plenty of books are written collaboratively. Who cares?





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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:13 AM

14. Contrary to official Federal Law enforcement statements such as no laws broken is in itself a code.

You have been caught and discredited. Everything you know and did will be told and recorded. You have just ran into a wall. You have no rights. Quietly dissapear when this dies down and if you get too much scrutiny and can manage it yourself or maybe an onset of illness, or accident just die.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:43 AM

19. Die and join the others on that unnamed beach...n/t

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Response to kickysnana (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:41 AM

42. Rommel in another system had a similar problem he got a nice State funeral.

In this case no hurry, nice things will be said about the generals after they are debriefed and no more autobiographies.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:47 AM

21. Wait a minute I though she was out of the Reserves so how is it she was allowed to see classified

Documents if she's not currently in the reserves.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:22 AM

24. hasn't she been probed enough?

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:23 AM

25. More descriptive headline:

"Petraeus probe spears Broadwell, clean and cover up to follow"

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:37 AM

26. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Little Star.

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:37 AM

27. So I guess we aren't conspiracy nuts after all.

 

Why hasn't this woman been arrested? This was a plot and deeper than just some horny people.

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Response to lalalu (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:15 PM

35. Yep. They aren't doing all those investigations because of sex. n/t

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Response to Little Star (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:31 PM

38. just want to remind people

"classified" has a VERY WIDE meaning...just about everything is classified - these things aren't necessarily anything important whatsoever.

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Response to Kali (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:10 PM

39. From what I'm reading those classified docs she took home were in ...

a secure location and should have never been taken out. The FBI is right now investigating the aspect of how she got those docs and took them home.

I also heard that when a document still has the word classified on it then it is just that, classified.

I'm not sure what you are saying. They are not doing all these investigations for nothing, imho.

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