HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Jill Kelley, social liais...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:15 AM

Jill Kelley, social liaison to MacDill Air Force Base, is mystery woman [interview w/Paula's dad]

Source: The New York Daily News

...But Broadwell’s father said Sunday his daughter is the victim of character assassination and implied the bombshell story is just a smoke screen for something bigger.

“This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out,” Broadwell’s dad, Paul Krantz, told the Daily News outside his home in Bismarck, N.D.

“There is a lot more that is going to come out,” said Krantz, claiming he was not allowed to elaborate. “You wait and see. There’s a lot more here than meets the eye.” He said he supports his daughter “100%.”

"I stand by my daughter. She is an exceptional person,” Krantz told The News, adding that Broadwell, a West Point grad, and her family were “doing well, considering.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ap-source-target-emails-petraeus-paramour-state-department-military-liaison-article-1.1200299#ixzz2Byxu9FxH


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ap-source-target-emails-petraeus-paramour-state-department-military-liaison-article-1.1200299



FYI.

33 replies, 6975 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 33 replies Author Time Post
Reply Jill Kelley, social liaison to MacDill Air Force Base, is mystery woman [interview w/Paula's dad] (Original post)
anobserver2 Nov 2012 OP
anobserver2 Nov 2012 #1
aletier_v Nov 2012 #2
anobserver2 Nov 2012 #27
left on green only Nov 2012 #3
Blasphemer Nov 2012 #32
2naSalit Nov 2012 #4
starroute Nov 2012 #5
truth2power Nov 2012 #12
bananas Nov 2012 #20
truth2power Nov 2012 #33
ReRe Nov 2012 #6
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #10
peacebird Nov 2012 #19
coldbeer Nov 2012 #22
plethoro Nov 2012 #24
2naSalit Nov 2012 #30
ciking724 Nov 2012 #14
2naSalit Nov 2012 #31
ChillZilla Nov 2012 #21
plethoro Nov 2012 #23
BREMPRO Nov 2012 #7
aletier_v Nov 2012 #8
funkhowser1 Nov 2012 #9
2naSalit Nov 2012 #26
BREMPRO Nov 2012 #28
DallasNE Nov 2012 #11
BREMPRO Nov 2012 #29
Berlum Nov 2012 #13
valerief Nov 2012 #15
plethoro Nov 2012 #17
John2 Nov 2012 #16
valerief Nov 2012 #18
Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #25

Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:23 AM

1. Well, if it's actually "character assassination" on Paula then...

...that means Paula is not the one having the affair.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:27 AM

2. I think she was having the affair

I think someone else dredged up to try and make political capital on it.

People in charge stonewalled to avoid giving in to blackmailers.

Blackmailers retaliated with "FBI Whistleblower", who tried to get it into the general media,
and Cantor got appraised of the full situation and participated in the Squelch
until after the election.

And PTB deliberately released this story to kill any further blackmail potential.

I predict there will be serious consequences for whoever instigated this.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to aletier_v (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:49 PM

27. What if there was no affair?

What if Paula the bio author eventually publicly claims: there was no affair; he is using that lie to cover up a different reason he had to resign.
(Or something like that.)

Because she has said nothing yet, and it seems to me that the above is basically what her father is publicly claiming.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:36 AM

3. Which studio do you imagine will wind up getting.....

.....the exclusive movie rights? And is Debra Winger too old to play Paula Broadwell? Oliver Stone, are you paying attention?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to left on green only (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:46 PM

32. I vote for Kristin Davis

She can do both attractive, smart and charming and bat shit crazy.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:03 AM

4. I suspect...

That the statement about "something bigger" is probably right. The affair bit smells like a red herring to send the media off on a spree while something ugly is going on behind closed doors. Patreaus was way too willing to call the resignation based on infidelity, since only Republicans were aware of this before anyone else allegedly was, like Sen. Feinstein, who should have been one of the first to know. Why was Cantor in on it before she was?

I still think that not only was Ohio supposed to be a steal, I think that Benghazi was a set up for Obama and Cabinet and Patreaus was an orchestrator or facilitator. The corporate news is all too happy to take on the affair and flaunt it so that a possibly large embarrassment to the president could take place under the radar. You have to recall that the general was driving the war machine in the Gulf and he was totally opposed to Obama's ideas of ending the charade there. Then he and Panetta suddenly traded places. I thought that was kind of odd. And don't forget, several of the jerks in one end of the Congress are the very same putzes who impeached Clinton not too terribly long ago because he wasn't a 1%er, even though he helped them get richer and more powerful... and he wasn't into starting a war in the middle east as Bush was so eager to do. Food for thought.

I'm sure it was something bigger and uglier than we are being led to think at this point. It's probably a very wise thing to have this guy removed via resignation and I don't think it was his idea to do that. Broadwell isn't talking until she gets briefed... and maybe the harassment victim knows more than just that she was getting nasty emails from a jealous paramour. Something is going on and we'll probably hear about it soon, secrets are like an awl in a cloth bag, they have a way of poking through the fabric and making themselves known.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:11 AM

5. Bob Baer said much the same thing -- I think on Russia Today?

I saw a clip somewhere. He said more or less that this wasn't really about the sex and that more would be coming out. He also stated that four or five other CIA directors have had affairs and it never was grounds for resignation. (Baer is the former CIA agent who was played by George Clooney in Syriana.)

Where's my popcorn?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to starroute (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:31 AM

12. I think he's the one who was interviewed a couple of days ago...it was in the videos section here...

There were several other individuals interviewed along with him.

They were all dismissing what he said, but he stood by his assessment that the affair wasn't the real issue. Looks like he knew what he was talking about.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to truth2power (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:59 AM

20. Was this it - Bob Baer on Piers Morgan?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bananas (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 08:53 AM

33. Yes that's the one....

Sorry to take so long to reply on this. Haven't been spending as much time here as usual.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:22 AM

6. I TOTALLY AGREE

K&R

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:30 AM

10. Well said & welcome to DU



I share many of your suspicions about the "real" story still not fully known, another shoe's
a gonna fa-a-all. Betrayus is a real piece of work, a Bush Crime Syndicate loyalist, who is
capable of doing most anything imaginable, and some things we can't even imagine; to
further the agenda of his Masters.

I've detested the man, ever since this caught my attention, back in 2005. Col. Ted Westhusing
was a universally respected and honorable man, just attempting to do his job, but was stymied
and ultimately "suicided" for his trouble. Patraeus was his immediate superior.

“When he was in Iraq, Westhusing worked for one of the most famous generals in the U.S. military, David Petraeus,” Bryce observed. “As the head of counterterrorism and special operations under Petraeus, Westhusing oversaw the single most important task facing the U.S. military in Iraq then and now: training the Iraqi security forces.”

Bryce referred to a “two-inch stack of documents, obtained over the past 15 months under the Freedom of Information Act, that provides many details of Westhusing’s suicide…. The documents echo the story told by Westhusing’s friends. ‘Something he saw drove him to this,’ one Army officer who was close to Westhusing said in an interview. ‘The sum of what he saw going on drove him’ to take his own life. ‘It’s because he believed in duty, honor, country that he’s dead.’ ”
http://www.thenation.com/blog/36661/general-petraeuss-link-troubling-suicide-iraq-ted-westhusing-story#

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:41 AM

19. I think you may have listed the real reason betrayus went down, Westhusing & countless others

like him.

I hope betrayus is hoisted up on his own petard instead of being allowed to merely slink away an adulterer and land a cushy consulting gig on M$M

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to peacebird (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:05 AM

22. I have a favorite betray us tune

<a href="http://twitter.com/dansden/status/112638930268061697">banter</a>

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to peacebird (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:04 AM

24. I don't know... My first thought was that also, but maybe this time just let it fade away........nft

 

ddddd

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:30 PM

30. Thanks, I kind of like it here.

and I think he may have been "suicided" for that very reason. I think he had help with his suicide. Seems to be a handy way of keep up the status quo.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:39 AM

14. Maybe Patreaus was just bait.

". . . You have to recall that the general was driving the war machine in the Gulf and he was totally opposed to Obama's ideas of ending the charade there. Then he and Panetta suddenly traded places. I thought that was kind of odd. . . ."

Maybe the general was just bait. Leaks have been a boil on the CIA for some time now. Maybe this was a way of finding out who was leaking to whom. And the GOP were all too eager to have the general confirmed in the position of CIA Director. They, no doubt, thought they had it in the bag on Benghazi.

I've said for some time now, people don't give this President enough credit; he is a very smart individual . . . no, brilliant!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ciking724 (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:37 PM

31. After reviewing

the most recent details coming to light as of Tuesday am, I think Panetta was in the CIA seat to find out all he could and when it led to Pentraeus, he switched to the DoD, he was able to help catch the assholes red handed and they are now in the process of cleaning house, especially since the Ds won the election, we might now be on our way to cleaning up the act of the US on the planetary front. Notice that Panetta is okay with reassignment now... The snake is eating its tail at this point and the real evildoers look like they're on their way out with the proverbial army boot up their asses. Just spekulatin' here...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:01 AM

21. Wow, take off the tinfoil hat already

 

Are you suggesting that Patraeus set up the entire Benghazi affair to try and take down Obama?

CooCoo, CooCoo....

I love how willing people are to suddendy totally discount the fact that Patraeus essentially rescued the situation in Iraq and was hand picked by Obama for the CIA, not to mention respected on all sides.

But oh yeah, MoveOn DID run that betrayus add, I think I'll just stick with that.

Broadwell's dad probably doesn't know what he's talking about.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:43 AM

23. I think your post is right on....

 

I posted it over at America Speaks just to see if they think the same as I. In summary. Petraeus was and is a neocon, just like the rest of Cheney and crew. I never cared for the man or his efforts. After Benghazi he was enlisted by the Republican mafia to go after Obama and make it seem like Benghazi was all Obama's fault. Someone got wise to what he was doing and arranged for him to have an affair. (But not really--every Harvard and West Pointer has affairs and then blabs about them in emails). This was just device that let Petraeus escape, which I doubt will end up working. Basically, this was all a prearranged October event that failed to work and push Ohio to Romney. We're still trying to id the discoverer but that may never be known.

Thanks for your post. It allowed a lot of us to sift through this thing better. We are behind Obama and are glad he didn't get destroyed by this obvious plot. The contingency setup began with the CIA DOD switch for Betrayus.

Sorry for any spelling errors.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:23 AM

7. look at the source.. NY daily news rag... this is just BS conspiracy theories to sell newspapers and

stoke the conservative entertainment complex... nothing to see here, just an understandable affair, and an honorable resignation to deal with putting his family back together and preserving the integrity of the agency...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BREMPRO (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:26 AM

8. no.

the timing alone should be clue enough

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to aletier_v (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:48 AM

9. The plot thickens ... involvement from Petraeus' time at Central Command.

Caught the beginning of the local Fox news (after Simpsons, etc.,) ... and this involves an "unpaid social liaison" for MacDill AFB from Petraeus' time at Central Command in Tampa Bay. They had a shot of her mansion on Bayshore Blvd. which is the bay front street of the rich and elite (bankers, RV dealership owners, etc.) in Tampa. They probably featured many shots of the area extensively on TV during the RNC.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/20068514/harassing-e-mails-in-petreaus-case-sent-to-tampa-woman

TAMPA (FOX 13) -

In October 2008 the longtime Army Veteran was named commander of US Central Command, headquarters - MacDill Air Force Base.

Petraeus' next big role was director of the Central Intelligence Agency. On Friday he resigned that post after admitting he cheated on his wife, with biographer Paula Broadwell.

It came to light after the Federal Bureau of Investigation conducted a probe on harassing e-mails Broadwell allegedly sent to Jill Kelley.

The 37-year-old Tampa resident is an unpaid social liaison for MacDill AFB.

No one answered the door at the Kelley's Bayshore Boulevard residence on Sunday but neighbors had nothing but good things to say about her and her husband Scott.

"They're great friends and they're great neighbors," explained Jim Walters. "And I shocked by the news."

A source close to Petraeus told the Associated Press that Kelley is a good friend but that the two were not romantically involved.

Kelley released a statement Sunday through a communications and crisis management firm.

In that statement she says her family "has been friends with General Petraeus and his family for over five years."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BREMPRO (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:00 PM

26. Okay, so maybe digest

these... I included the WaPo link from the middle of the Beast story. Try and connect the dots here... (and browse around the page at the Beast.)


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/11/alleged-petraeus-mistress-suggested-she-was-privy-to-state-secrets.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/official-emails-from-paramour-led-to-fbi-probe-that-prompted-petraeuss-ouster-as-cia-chief/2012/11/10/987726e4-2b94-11e2-aaa5-ac786110c486_story.html?tid=pm_pop

In my opinion, this is starting to smell like a whole trawler full of rotten fish and I'll bet the oil slick leads back to the Cheney/Rove machine... these pigs will stop at nothing to topple the best president this country has had this century and secure a full on feudalistic environment for the Romney fans complete with endless war to satisfy their appetite for global dominance, ie. "American exceptionalism". That's my take and I'm sticking to it.

Thanks for the welcomes everyone, I've been a lurker for a while but I just had to start speaking up...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:11 PM

28. reading your links, this explanation from wapo report rings true and no need 4 conspiracy beyond....

"When Petraeus’s name surfaced, officials said, they did not think it was appropriate to brief anyone outside the Justice Department, including the White House or Congress. The criminal probe was still ongoing, key interviews had not been conducted, and they did not know what role, if any, Petraeus had in the e-mail harassment case, they said.

Before determining whether there had been a security breach, one official said, it would have been premature to discuss such a sensitive issue with anyone outside the investigation. In late summer, after ruling out any ­security involvement, high-level Justice Department officials were informed about the harassment investigation regarding Petraeus."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:40 AM

11. So, Why Did Petraeus Break Off The Relationship 4 Months Ago?

Did Petraeus have contact with anybody in the FBI? That would have been inappropriate but it almost seems likely given that it was about 3 months after Jill Kelley alerted the Washington Congressman. Was there some kind of deal made at that time, to cut off the relationship in exchange for being allowed to stay on as Director of CIA? Indeed, who knew what and when is a very good line of questioning. So who made the story public. It seems like Kelley was quite discreet meaning it wasn't her -- unless she was unhappy with the outcome then took it public. What is the protocol for information like this and was it followed. Who is responsible for letting members of Congress with a need to know, know and why didn't it happen as it should. There are more shoes to drop before this is over. When was Obama's National Security Advisor notified and how soon after that was the President himself notified. From what I have heard Obama first learned of this on election night (talk about throwing cold water on a victory celebration). This will be a big story for several weeks.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to DallasNE (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:16 PM

29. uh.. Petraeus made it public by resigning!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:32 AM

13. Coming Soon: More More More...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:41 AM

15. I wonder what REAL news this Petraeus horseshit is bumping. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to valerief (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:12 AM

17. Me too. It is driving me crazy. I suspect what it is but I'm tentative to

 

post it here because it may reflect badly on Obama. So, I'll just have another bowl of Cocoa Puffs.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to anobserver2 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:07 AM

16. The

 

only Republican that I would trust in my Administration, would be General Powell. The rest are just no good. Every character in this episode pretending they have good character are up to no good. As far as Petraeus, he did violate his trust to the President. I have a lower opinion now. Whatever Diane Feinstein says about him falls on death ears with me now.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to John2 (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:32 AM

18. Mr. Iran-Contra. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to John2 (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:21 AM

25. Mr. Weapons of Mass Destruction n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread