Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:59 PM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
In Debt Talks, Obama Is Ready to Go Beyond Beltway
Source: NY Times
WASHINGTON — President Obama, emboldened by his decisive re-election and lessons learned over four years in office, is looking to the renewal of budget talks with Republicans this week as a second chance to take command of the nation’s policy debates and finally fulfill his promise to end gridlock in Washington, associates say. As he prepares to meet with Congressional leaders at the White House on Friday, aides say, Mr. Obama will not simply hunker down there for weeks of closed-door negotiations as he did in mid-2011, when partisan brinkmanship over raising the nation’s debt limit damaged the economy and his political standing. He will travel beyond the Beltway at times to rally public support for a deficit-cutting accord that mixes tax increases on the wealthy with spending cuts. On Wednesday, Mr. Obama will meet with corporate executives at the White House as he uses the nation’s fiscal problems to start rebuilding relations with business leaders. Though many of them backed Mitt Romney, scores have formed a coalition to push for a budget compromise similar to the one the president seeks. He hopes to enlist them to persuade Republicans in Congress to accept higher taxes on the assurance that he can deliver Democrats’ votes for future reductions in fast-growing entitlement programs like Medicare and Medicaid. -snip- And with the election campaign over, the campaign for the Obama legacy begins: Mr. Obama will keep his grass-roots organization in place to “have the president’s back,” as its members like to say, on the budget negotiations and other issues in the second term. Democrats concede that the network has not been a particularly effective legislative lobby to date. But they argue that when it was activated to pass payroll tax cuts and low-interest student loans, the pressure made a difference. -snip- Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/us/politics/legacy-at-stake-obama-plans-broader-push-for-budget-deal.html
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21 replies, 2823 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| highplainsdem | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| Angry Dragon | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| Chunk | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| tpsbmam | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| lsewpershad | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| nauthiz | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| patrice | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| bjobotts | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| ProudProgressiveNow | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| elleng | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| nlkennedy | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| bread_and_roses | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| MotherPetrie | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| bread_and_roses | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| drm604 | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| lsewpershad | Nov 2012 | #20 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:04 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
1. The payroll tax cuts are a mistake
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:33 PM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,655 posts)
3. Agreed. And he and his loyal supporters...
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are out of their fucking minds if they think I'm going to "have his back" with regard to cuts to SS, Medicare and Medicaid.
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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #3)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:43 PM
Cha (124,347 posts)
7. I'm a supporter of President Obama and I don't think he's going to ask
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for that. And, I certainly wouldn't expect anyone in their right fucking mind to support it.
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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #3)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:44 PM
Chunk (91 posts)
8. I'll be right there with you when he actually does
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threaten cuts to SS, Medicare and Medicaid.
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Response to Chunk (Reply #8)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:55 PM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,655 posts)
10. Hi Chunk... welcome to DU.
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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:59 AM
tpsbmam (3,882 posts)
13. +1. Don't care who's pushing those cuts, including any "grassroots" traitors
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I will not support those cuts!
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Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:52 PM
lsewpershad (1,393 posts)
19. +1
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:07 PM
nauthiz (44 posts)
2. So....he's basically going to take the beltway to the people?
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Yay, Dems become the smiling happy face of the Republican party. Let's give Goldman Sachs social security.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:39 PM
patrice (47,267 posts)
4. Networksof wrkr owned entrepreneur collaboratives co-operative ntwrksSmall businesses. Shop!Local!
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Support artisans and local food producers.
More community gardens! & Mass transit! :p |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:40 PM
Cha (124,347 posts)
5. Good.. Thanks, highplainsdem
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:43 PM
bjobotts (8,377 posts)
6. Vote for progressive agenda, not GOP lite
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Let the tax cuts expire...then next session bring up a bill for tax cuts on the middle class. No need to "cut back" or reduce needed entitlements. Just need to increase revenue. People are hurting and now is not the time to reduce needed benefits. We need another huge stimulus, only without the tax cuts.
Time to get renewable energy systems in place...to get infrastructure projects nationwide going and to improve our educational infrastructure. More people working and paying taxes will generate more revenue to pay down our debt and stimulate the economy with increasing demand. It's not rocket science people...but then most here know this already So what's stopping congress from implementing? |
Response to bjobotts (Reply #6)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:48 PM
Cha (124,347 posts)
9. I hope you're writing your thoughts to the White House, bjobotts.. sounds great.
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What's stopping congress are the republicons.. which is what happened in 2010 when Dems stayed home. We all need to get out and Vote in 2014 to Take Back The House!
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Response to bjobotts (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:50 AM
ProudProgressiveNow (3,239 posts)
12. +100000000000000.00
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:12 AM
elleng (40,503 posts)
11. Fired up! Ready to go!
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'He will travel beyond the Beltway at times to rally public support for a deficit-cutting accord that mixes tax increases on the wealthy with spending cuts.
On Wednesday, Mr. Obama will meet with corporate executives at the White House as he uses the nation’s fiscal problems to start rebuilding relations with business leaders. Though many of them backed Mitt Romney, scores have formed a coalition to push for a budget compromise similar to the one the president seeks. -snip- And with the election campaign over, the campaign for the Obama legacy begins: Mr. Obama will keep his grass-roots organization in place to “have the president’s back,” as its members like to say, on the budget negotiations and other issues in the second term.' |
Response to elleng (Reply #11)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:02 AM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,655 posts)
15. Fired up and fighting THIS:
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"He hopes to enlist them to persuade Republicans in Congress to accept higher taxes on the assurance that he can deliver Democrats’ votes for future reductions in fast-growing entitlement programs like Medicare and Medicaid."
The honeymoon is over. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:45 AM
nlkennedy (19 posts)
14. Don't drop the ball
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Progressives were very hard to please during Mr. Obama's first term, and by the sound of some of these comments, you're going to be just as upset with the president going forward..
Sometimes change has to come from all of us... If we have the wherewithal to stick it out until 2016, we can always revisit policy and restructure entitlements... A budget deal will stimulate the markets regardless of our personal opinions on medicare, SS, restructuring... Win big now, go back later... Keep your heads up and follow the president.. |
Response to nlkennedy (Reply #14)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:44 PM
bread_and_roses (5,536 posts)
17. Please tell me you are not serious? (n/t)
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:26 AM
MotherPetrie (1,859 posts)
16. "assurance that he can deliver Democrats’ votes for future reductions in... Medicare and Medicaid"
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What the fuckity fuck fuck?
So can we expect Rick Warren at the inauguration too? |
Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #16)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:45 PM
bread_and_roses (5,536 posts)
18. And so it begins (n/t)
Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #16)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:39 PM
drm604 (13,962 posts)
21. Let's hope that that's a total distortion of what he said, or maybe even an outright lie.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:53 PM
lsewpershad (1,393 posts)
20. When will labor
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have a seat at the table?
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