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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:10 AM

Medicaid Expansion To Poorest Southerners Denied By Republicans

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Source: huffington post



If you're poor and you live in the South, there's a good chance health care reform won't reach you. Intransigent Republican governors from Florida to Texas remain steadfastly resistant to President Barack Obama's plan to expand Medicaid to their neediest constituents.

The health care reform law Obama enacted in 2010 depends heavily on Medicaid, a joint federal-state health benefits program, to reach the goal of near-universal health care. If every state participated, 17 million uninsured people would gain coverage through Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program between 2014 and 2022, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The law extends Medicaid to anyone who earns up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level, which is $14,856 this year.

But at least a half-dozen governors say they simply won't go along with the law. When the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare in June, justices ruled states could opt out of the Medicaid expansion. The decision threatens to leave 3 million of the poorest Americans without health coverage, the Congressional Budget Office predicts.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and Texas Gov. Rick Perry -- all Republicans -- are on record so far as resistors to expanding Medicaid, according to an analyses updated Thursday by the Advisory Board, a Washington-based health care consulting company.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/medicaid-expansion_n_2103384.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics&utm_hp_ref=politics



link to interactive map: http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/11/09/MedicaidMap#lightbox/1/

Click on your state to see where your Governor stands

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silverweb Nov 2012 #10
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ancianita Nov 2012 #59
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:17 AM

1. Republicans hate old people

yet these old people voted Republican probably

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:45 AM

14. Republicans hate all people

Unless they are rich or racist. As Grayson said, if they won't give you the vote- they will give you nothing. As we know ObamaCare was crafted in part by Mitt Romney. with certain consumer oriented reforms. . It is up to the people of these states to give their Republican governor their views.

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:42 AM

22. They love Ben Franklin.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:36 AM

37. Mail

They love Ole Ben but they hate the post office

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Response to mtasselin (Reply #37)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:59 PM

71. His libraries too. Heck they even want to privatize his fire departments.

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:51 AM

24. terrible cruelty. I would hate to have to explain to the creator why I was responsible for this if

I were them. They get to feel everyone's misery when they die. IMO. Just sayin'.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:00 PM

76. The Republican God is Ayn Rand.

And they're absolutely sure that their beloved Ayn as in Mine would approve!

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Response to Joe Bacon (Reply #76)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:16 PM

80. true that

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:54 AM

31. I agree

Totally agree, these Repuglicans like Perry and Jindal will be in power for another term then they will be gone!!

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Response to dicksmc3 (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:42 AM

39. bebefits

These assholes gov should have their benefits tied in to the people of their state. Why do they get to tell people you can't have this and they get stuff that is the repubs phrase that is way better.

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Response to mtasselin (Reply #39)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:19 PM

50. saw one of those please donate cans at the store the other day

for a little girl with leukemia. I thought, these families have been devastated, they're attempting to get the best care they can afford and must beg the public. it should not be in this country. what we've got are some people who don't give a shite about other americans, even little children. it must be god's will if they die, right? see god didn't gift them with large amounts of moolah even though they may be working two or three jobs today just to make ends meet.

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Response to newspeak (Reply #50)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:00 PM

55. if she lived in Canada or the UK she would be treated

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Response to newspeak (Reply #50)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:42 PM

66. In a decent society, you'd NEVER see medical begging jars.

Civilized people don't do that to their fellow human beings.

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Response to mtasselin (Reply #39)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:34 PM

78. they originally did have state benefits tied to participation.

If they failed to participate they would have had their medicaid funding slashed to zero.

Oh well, at least the rest of us can save some money.

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Response to dicksmc3 (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:22 PM

70. I Don't Think So

 

They are sinister. You would think that Vitter would be gone. Didn't happen. The people who vote them in are not realistic.

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:24 PM

53. And to give their Republican governors the boot in the next election. n/t

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:18 AM

2. This is how we will eventually get Single Payer.

ETA: Seriously. I just get the weirdest feeling that this is the road we're going to have to travel to get there.

People are going to suffer and maybe die. But we know that at the end of it all, there is only ONE WAY. Single Payer.

Obama will invent it and use it to cover the uninsured in the south and where ACA is rejected. And then it will be clear that it's superior and all the chips will fall into place.

I can dream, right?

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:56 AM

7. I agree, just a matter of time

and I don't think you are 'dreaming' too much.... if you would have imagined the election were going to turn out the way it did a couple years ago... you probably would have thought you were dreaming then as well... good things can happen too

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:22 AM

10. Agreed.

All these asshole employers, like the CEO of Papa John's, are adding to the misery as well.

Unfortunately, there will be a lot of suffering before critical mass is reached, and the demand becomes urgent and strident enough that the reTHUGs in Congress relent.

However, we're on the path forward and President Obama is exactly the right person to see it accomplished.

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Response to silverweb (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:23 AM

84. This morning, I responded to a Papa Johns offer.

I sent my reply to their corporate office. Sadly (being the single Father of a 16 year old Son) we have used PJ's very often . We have received dozens of "free pizza's."
I informed them that because of Papa's decision to cut workers hours due to Obama care, we would no longer purchase anything from them. "I hope they enjoy their bottom line."

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Response to dotymed (Reply #84)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:57 PM

85. Excellent!

If they get enough responses like that, maybe they'll rethink their position.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:42 AM

27. And the argument I heard against it was doctors

Won't make enough money.
Sigh.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:24 PM

52. need to tie federal aid to medical students

so that they don't wind up in debt. there's nothing wrong for a doctor to earn 100,000 to 150,000 dollars (i heard that doctors make about that in some of the socialized medicine countries). also, with government aid, we may actually get people from poor, middle class families who actually want to be doctors to help people; instead of monetary motive.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:36 AM

36. Not Gonna Happen, No Matter How Many Have to Do Without Health Care

The insurance companies own enough legislators to keep single payer off the table.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:42 PM

79. As a small biz owner, you also have a part to play in this

since you will either have to decide to pay the premiums for your employees or pay the $2k penalty. What do you currently pay to subsidize each individual employee on your insurance? Mine's $8k/year/employee, they pay $2400/yr.

I believe that the more small business owners pressure this admin for single payer, the faster we'll get there as well. Its going to take all of us. I've already started emailing and calling my reps about this.



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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:18 AM

3. Burn Down The Mission

'It's time we put the flame torch to their keep...'


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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:19 PM

59. Amen. I'd go with

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:52 AM

5. and maybe someday they'll stop voting in repugs.

 

i really can't muster up too much sympathy for the people residing in red states... sorry.

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:25 AM

20. I think that will happen fairly quick.

The problem with being a governor (or other politician) from one of the states in the 'Arc of Republican Poverty', is that they can't control information like they could even fifty years ago.

The internet is the same, with the same unfiltered information, no matter what state you're in.

Eventually, the people will figure it out. Pain and suffering does that.

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Response to BouzoukiKing (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:25 AM

44. precisely

People will begin to wonder why they don't have something good another state has...

"My brother's hospital bill was next to nothin' while cousin Billy Bob sat at home and suffered with the same thing, why come?"

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:45 AM

28. Trying, but we're outnumbered.

And redstate was where we had to move to work. Sorry. Would rather have been in blue.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:48 AM

46. you have to live with the choices you make.

 

we all do.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:54 AM

6. & they just keep electing them. unbelievable nt

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:58 AM

8. Cold + Cruel + Hateful = GOPukes and Baggers

Just keep it up Pukes, please.

2014...The House...and thousands of local positions in every city, county and state across America.

Oh ya and,

"When the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare in June, justices ruled states could opt out of the Medicaid expansion. The decision threatens to leave 3 million of the poorest Americans without health coverage..."

Thanks to the Activist Haters on the SC...we want to be rid of you too.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:21 AM

9. Selling other people's lives. Disguisting!

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:33 AM

11. The poorest folks in bagger states have simply given up

I can't believe they really want to suffer and die needlessly. But they will...if they don't organize and change the power dynamics.

Tragic, and hard to fix with gerrymandering.

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Response to radhika (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:07 AM

33. Most of these poor people vote Republican in states like Mississippi. They can't be helped.

People have become so flooded with corporate propaganda that they couldn't see the forest for the trees.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:34 AM

12. WTH? Utah state hospital association favors a 'free-market solution' for low-income residents?

Utah hospitals to state: Don't expand Medicaid

State hospital association favors a 'free-market solution' for low-income residents

http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/11/09/Utah-hospitals-to-state-Dont-expand-Medicaid

Gee, the free market did a fine job by these folks already, huh?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:37 AM

13. What do the good citizens of Texass think of your pink tie Perry?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:56 AM

15. Oh good,

another thread full of people with no empathy blaming everyone in red states because Republicans get elected.

Of course what they're too ignorant to grasp is that the people being targeted by this are mostly minorities that vote for Democrats, but hey, our faces don't need noses anyway!

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:00 AM

16. Way to go, assholes.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:00 AM

17. Sounds like a good reason to get rid of Republican governors

and a basis for people to mobilize for that purpose.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:16 AM

18. Which is why this medicaid recipient

Will be ousting Rick Scott's evil ass in 2 years in spectacular fashion. Tired of this bullshit war on the poor and disadvantaged.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:21 AM

19. They don't need medicaid.....

Moonshine will cure them, Such Fools.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:38 AM

21. They'll come on board soon. The grade-school tough-guy posturing isn't fooling anyone

The hospitals and health providers in their states will stage a revolution if they refuse.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:05 AM

41. It's a publicity gimmick so they have story to repeat at their fundraising events

...for when they run again.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:10 AM

83. I agree. In fact, I heard a Medicaid official Friday in one "no" state say they haven't decided yet.


The expansion is almost entirely funded by federal money -- the states are paying the cost in one way or another now. They'll take the federal money when it is time. A few might be callous enough to hope the poor sick folks will move to another state, but I think most will bite the bullet when the final deadline approaches.

Republicans are callous asses -- and often racist/bigoted -- when you cut through all their BS.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:42 AM

23. These are the last Republican Govenors.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:54 AM

25. Does anyone have some kind of explanation for this?

It is crazy that people who need help most vote for the people who are bound and determined not to give it to them?

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:35 AM

26. I no longer even TRY to understand right-wing behavior.

I don't know why my cat carries around a pink mouse toy and yowls at it three times a day either.

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:53 AM

29. A lot of these people don't have TV's,

also the Media lies so it is hard for the old and poor to get the truth. The News Media should be forced to tell the truth as much as possible or be put out of business, also the Churches are telling people how to vote, which I have a big problem with, these Churches should be paying taxes like everyone else. A small Church making a small amount should be exempt.

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Response to oldbanjo (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:07 AM

42. The Fairness Doctrine, enforced would make a huge difference.

When reagan deregulated our media, that belongs to the people, that was the way to get the masses propagandized. Unbelievably there has been no attempt to bring those regulations back. Of course, occasionally we hear from an owned gop'er touting the lie that reinstatement of THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE is censoring the press (that they buy).
If this was re-instated, the truth would again, take hold quickly. IMO, many DINO's do not want real journalism either. The truth can extremely change things and most often in a progressive direction.

Fairness Doctrine, citizens united, electronic voting, medicare for all, there is a direct correlation among these and they are all aimed at the head of each (especially vulnerable) citizen.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:26 PM

61. Yes! Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.

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Response to AnnieK401 (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:22 PM

56. Desperate people are easier to manipulate

If the populace in these States actually are allowed to improve their circumstances, they would be harder to manipulate and would respond less to the "fear-based" politics of the GOP. Misery = manipulation.

J

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:39 AM

30. Is there anything that President

Obama can do to still cover these people, federal enrollment?

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Response to ebbie15644 (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:05 AM

32. I don't honestly think Obama is willing to wage that kind of fight.

These Repub governors would start screaming states right and have the whole issue in the courts again. Medicaid is a state-level program. There isn't a federal level Medicaid, and that's the problem here.

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Response to ebbie15644 (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:35 AM

35. Nope. They're doomed by their fellow citizens. Red state voters don't

care about poor people.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:34 AM

34. We should offer every poor person a free one-way ticket out of those

states and into one of the civilized ones.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #34)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:28 PM

63. THIS. This would be the cheapest way to help them.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:40 AM

38. "At least a half-dozen governors"? It's half a dozen governors.

And doesn't the federal government set up its own exchanges if the state doesn't cooperate? I know it does for universal coverage but does that apply for Medicaid coverage, too?

On edit: Oh, I see, they have the option of opting out of the Medicaid part.

Idiots.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:04 AM

40. This is just the still-in-power Do-nothing Congress

I don't think it even has anything to do with health care....to these Governors. It's just about posturing.

It won't last.... but it will be a pain in the ass for a while.


And I think there's just as much "southern" thinking in almost all 50 states. I've never been to a state where I didn't see prejudice. PA was one of the WORST. VT of course was one of the least.

It's just in the South prejudice has been thoroughly institutionalized since before 1776. It has a firmer foundation there than elsewhere. The West is trying to become the South it seems. (TX is not the South. Cowboys and longhorns are not Southern. They ride English in VA. No one wore a cowboy hat in the South until the late 50's when Nashville became the country music capital.)

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:16 AM

43. Do any of these programs (medicare or medicaid) provide for dental health?

I live in Tn., recently we were ranked 50 in dental care. As a heart patient, I am aware of the very close relationship that dental health has with heart disease.
Besides being cosmetically unattractive, lack of dental care can kill. It is very painful and a huge contributor to overall health.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #43)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:25 AM

48. In some states,

there is limited dental coverage on medicaid. But it's extremely rare and most dentists won't accept it.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #43)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:28 PM

54. Definitely not here in Florida.

I was on Medicaid up until a couple of years ago and there were a lot of things it wouldn't cover. I remember it wouldn't cover an asthma nebulizer i needed. Right-wingers love to say that Medicaid is "free health care", i can tell you first hand that its definitely not.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #43)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:31 PM

57. Medicaid in MS

although it only covered full dental for children. For adults, it would pay for extractions and maybe a few select other procedures.

It was also difficult to find a dentist who would take it outside of a community health center or university practice.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:33 AM

45. The GOP will listen to their masters, hospitals, doctors, health insurance companies and accept Medi

These is just posturing, they will roll over and take medicaid. Their top donors are doctors, hospitals, health insurance companies, they all will make tons of money off medicaid. Doctors will get more patients, hospitals won\t have to absorb ER care, and health insurance will get lower rates because the people who stiff the system will have coverage. Insurance companies will pay less for ER when the non paying ER patients become paying patients because of medicaid
Money talks, donors will put the pressure and the GOP will answer to their real masters.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:24 AM

47. The evil continues.

Tens of thousands or even more people will suffer and die as a result of the refusal to implement the president's plan.
The health insurance industry and health care for profit should have been repudiated years ago.
Alan Grayson needs to reiterate his speech about the Republican plan for health care reform:
1. Don't get sick.
2. If you do get sick, die quickly.
This is the essence and effect of their approach to health care.
Damn them to hell.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:54 AM

49. These are some evil motherfuckers.

We gotta hope the Hospital's lobby hard enough for these assholes to accept the money, otherwise there's going to be some more dead bodies piling up courtesy of the GOP. Its what they do best, unfortunately.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:23 PM

51. CLUE:

 

southerners vote mostly for repugs right?

end of story.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:16 PM

58. Southerners live by 'whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger.'

Southerners are proud of the way they can take political and governing abuse. Having lived in teh South for over twenty years, I've heard and seen it up close. Also, they don't want to be seen as the moochers they decry. Some self esteem issues here, from the individual to the collective cultural body. They pay for this self-deprivation in so many ways that they probably don't even recognize.

Self denial of basic human necessities in the constitution's claim for "the general welfare" should not be seen as a lesser virtue than their governors' profiteer values.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:24 PM

60. More republican voters get & use food stamps on a regular basis & r so brainwashed they vote against

themselves. Sad but true. And now they'll probably vote against medicaid expansion...for themselves. Stupid asses.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:26 PM

62. They pretty much leave the federal government no choice. That's why their taxes have to go up.

These governors are millionaires. Do you really think they give a shit about you???? NO WAY! Vote these assholes OUT of office in 2014 before they destroy your state. Thank God they didn't get another stab at this country.

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Response to judesedit (Reply #62)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:35 PM

64. The ones hurt by this the most don't vote. Just cling to religion and guns. Seriously.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:40 PM

65. Jim Crow, M.D.

If they can't whip 'em or lynch 'em, they'l justl let 'em bleed to death.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #65)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:58 PM

67. good one

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #65)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:37 PM

68. Except that a clear majority are non-black.

So the lynching analogy fails.

Unless we like "dog-whistle" language, where we try to imply that most Medicaid recipients are poor and black.

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Response to Igel (Reply #68)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:41 PM

75. I don't like dog-whistle language and you know it.

And the thing is, the people who still block ACA implementation in the South probably can't ACCEPT the idea that there are poor white folks-or, if they do, they dismiss them as "white trash".

The resistance to the ACA in Dixie is still Bourbon politics. IN the 19th Century, people who called themselves Democrats practiced that disgusting, economic-royalist strain of politics-now, people who call themselves Republicans practice it.

There OUGHT to be some way for us to build a progressive, populist alliance of the working class-jobless class majority in that region.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:10 PM

69. Do these stupid ass repug voters realize that medicaid kicks in where medicare doesn't-like nursing

homes, etc. Come on 2014. Lets get rid of these greedy unethical politicians. They are the biggest parasites of all in this country. PARASITES! Give nothing take everything.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:05 PM

72. Withhold federal highway funds....

That's certainly worked in the past to get recalcitrant state governments in line with federal mandates. Congress might have to get involved, unfortunately. I'm not sure if that can be accomplished strictly by executive order.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:08 PM

73. Idaho panel votes unanimously for Medicaid expansion



...
“If we could have 90 percent to 100 percent of that paid by the federal government, why wouldn’t we do it?” asked Tom Faulkner, a Gooding County commissioner who has spent months studying the issue as a member of a 15-person working group created by Gov. Butch Otter.

The panel reached its unanimous decision Friday after reviewing a new report from the Milliman consulting group documenting long-term savings to the state from the move. Short-term savings already were assured, as the federal government will pick up 100 percent of the costs for the first three years; then it phases down to 90 percent.

“On a purely financial basis, it would make sense to expand,” Justin Birrell of Milliman told the working group. “You save $6.5 million if you expand. It would cost you $284 million if you don’t.” That’s over a 10  1/2 year period starting in the second half of state fiscal year 2014. Added the firm’s Ben Diederich, “The state and local offsets are what’s very unique to Idaho.”
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Otter will make the final call, along with state lawmakers, who ultimately must approve changes to the state’s Medicaid plan.



Here.

Makes sense to some in Idaho. Now whether the people want it is to be determined...

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:24 PM

74. We finally found our death panel.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:52 PM

77. Faux watchers will scream about how Obamacare isn't helping them.

Rush and Hannity and Bill-o will never let on that it's their own governors' fault.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:14 PM

81. And they are all "pro-life, Christians" I bet

Damn liars every one of them! Their real god is Ayn Rand, the goddess of filthy stinking GREED!

The democrats have to totally organize these people and get them to the polls! The bastard republicans will, in effect, KILL THEM! For no damn reason at all except hatred of poor people. And the scum go to church every Sunday and act all holy about their crimes against humanity no doubt!

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:42 PM

82. Dumb S$%%

This is what you vote for this is what you get

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