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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:07 PM

(Portland's progressive talk) KPOJ Cancelling Political Talk Radio

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Source: Willamette Week

Portland's progressive talk-radio station 620 AM KPOJ is ending all political programming and changing its format to all sports.

KPOJ morning host Carl Wolfson announced the decision by the station owner, Clear Channel Radio, on his Facebook page this morning.

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From October 2011 to October 2012, according to the ratings tracked by Arbitron, KPOJ fell from a 1.1 share to a 1.0 share of listeners—meaning 1 percent of listeners above the age of 12 were tuned to 620 AM. That's well behind last month's 3.5 share for News Radio KEX 1190 (which airs Rush Limbaugh) and the 5.0 share for KXL FM News 101 (which airs Lars Larson).

KOPJ's numbers also trail KOPB—the public radio station has an enviable 5.5 share—and both sports stations, KXTG The Game (2.5 share) and KFXX The Fan (1.6 share).


Read more: http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-29441-kpoj_cancelling_political_talk_radio_on_monday.html



Typical (Bain+) Clear Channel. In 2009 B+CC converted AM 940 in Miami from prog talk to sports (despite the area having four other sports stations). Just 11 months ago B+CC reduced the amount of progressive programming in the daytime lineup of AM 960 in San Francisco. B+CC-run prog stations fizzled in Boston and DC around 2006/2007 when Air Angie's was still around. This year B+CC also converted the progressive station in Spokane (a rather conservative area) to CLASSIC COUNTRY (you may like the music...not at the cost of rare political views!!)

During "Brunch with Bernie" on today's Thom Hartmann Program someone from Portland brought up this news. I as a Californian have frequently streamed POJ to listen to its delayed presentation of Mike Malloy and sometimes for Thom Hartmann/other shows. I have even heard the station signal in my area at night. For Portlanders, you can still boycott Blowhard Lars and hear non conservative views on radio on 90.7 KBOO ( independent community station) or 91.5 KOPB (NPR). Sadly both KEX and KXL both carry FOX NEWS RADIO hourly in addition to the typical RW trash. Also after sunset you may be able to pick up AM 1090 out of Seattle, to hear the tail end of Norman Goldman (live), Randi Rhodes at 6, Malloy at 9, Thom Hartmann at midnight, and Bill Press (live) at 3am.

Don't lose hope yet. In 2007, B+CC brought back 92.1 the Mic (Madison, Wisc) as progressive talk after a controversial format flip to sports in Dec. 2006 followed by a massive protest campaign. Also we should write our members of congress, to advocate rolling back the 1996 telecom act and bring back broadcaster ownership caps. And the fairness doctrine too. WE THE PEOPLE need to take back the airwaves.

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Reply (Portland's progressive talk) KPOJ Cancelling Political Talk Radio (Original post)
alp227 Nov 2012 OP
meeshrox Nov 2012 #1
litlbilly Nov 2012 #4
alp227 Nov 2012 #6
SoapBox Nov 2012 #11
LaPera Nov 2012 #14
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #30
truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #2
litlbilly Nov 2012 #5
alp227 Nov 2012 #19
alp227 Nov 2012 #33
cascadiance Nov 2012 #39
alp227 Nov 2012 #40
SoCalDemGrrl Nov 2012 #51
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #3
The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #7
Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #8
loudsue Nov 2012 #9
hogwyld Nov 2012 #57
loudsue Nov 2012 #59
mcgarry50 Nov 2012 #10
zentrum Nov 2012 #17
alp227 Nov 2012 #24
regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #23
alp227 Nov 2012 #25
alp227 Nov 2012 #27
Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 #12
no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #13
zentrum Nov 2012 #15
alp227 Nov 2012 #20
SoCalDemGrrl Nov 2012 #50
itsrobert Nov 2012 #16
alp227 Nov 2012 #34
renate Nov 2012 #18
JRLeft Nov 2012 #21
Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #22
Lochloosa Nov 2012 #26
quakerboy Nov 2012 #28
OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #29
Spirochete Nov 2012 #31
USMCMustang Nov 2012 #32
bullwinkle428 Nov 2012 #64
joanbarnes Nov 2012 #35
SparkyOR Nov 2012 #36
Left Coast2020 Nov 2012 #37
alp227 Nov 2012 #38
trueblue2007 Nov 2012 #42
Jim Spriggs Nov 2012 #46
napi21 Nov 2012 #48
trueblue2007 Nov 2012 #41
nolabels Nov 2012 #47
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #43
Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #44
Jim Spriggs Nov 2012 #45
Strelnikov_ Nov 2012 #53
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Strelnikov_ Nov 2012 #55
SoCalDemGrrl Nov 2012 #49
DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #52
hogwyld Nov 2012 #56
cojohn59 Nov 2012 #58
alp227 Nov 2012 #60
alpineviking Nov 2012 #61
myrna minx Nov 2012 #62
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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:10 PM

1. Oy!



That is such a shame, but not surprising, unfortunately. It's a miracle they lasted this long under CC, really.

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Response to meeshrox (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:14 PM

4. Romney cancelled his staffers credit cards

and now he's canceling all progressive radio which clear channel owns. This is unbelievable.
Nothing they do is going to help them, its only going to get worse for them. I hope in 2014 we can secure super majorities everywhere and just get these freakin crazies to just go away.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:19 PM

6. Does Romney still do anything with Bain nowadays?

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Response to alp227 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:29 PM

11. That is indeed, a good question!

If we could look at those tax returns, maybe we would know.

Or...maybe not?

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Response to alp227 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:39 PM

14. Still has lots and lots of Bain stock.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:43 PM

30. he will now...

 

that he has nothing but all the time in the world to do

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:11 PM

2. At least they waited until after this election cycle.

Looks kinda like a straightforward business decision to me.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:17 PM

5. You are wrong

It is just clear channel throwing a hissy fit because their guy lost the election. Those numbers they posted are not correct kinda like all the other info they post. I live in the Portland area
and I know they have a great following.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:58 PM

19. Notice a pattern between elections and B+CC gutting prog talkers?

November 2006: Democrats sweep Congress
-The two weeks before Christmas, Clear Channel ended prog talk stations in Boston (WKOX 1200), Cincinnati (WSAI 1360), Columbus (WTPG 1230), and Madison (WXXM 92.1). The latter two to sports. WXXM would return to progressive talk with a month. 1200 became Latin American music, then conservative talk (including RUSH), now this year...COMEDY.

November 2008: Obama first wins election
- Clear Channel sold WWRC 1260 in Washington DC during the summer. Under new management (that is, Redskins owner Dan Snyder), WWRC kept its left wing format into the election and inauguration but went belly up by Feb 2009. since 2010 summer 1260 has been a SALEM NETWORK (crazy right) affiliate with the tagline "intelligent talk" (REALLY), disgracing the heritage WRC call letters. Bill Press and Oliver Willis have excellent takes on that poorly run station. This year DC has a new left wing talk station on AM 1480, "We Act Radio".
In March 2009, B+CC flipped WINZ 940 Miami from progressive to sports. At least West Palm Beach had two stations carrying WPB-based Randi Rhodes: 1230 WBZT live, delayed on right wing 1290 WJNO at 9pm (so may be heard within miami).

2012: Obama is re elected!
-1/3/12: B+CC revamps AM 960 (KKGN "Green 960" now KNEW) in San Francisco replacing Stephanie Miller with the always loony GLENN BECK and Thom Hartmann with financial advice guru (and evangelical Christian) Dave Ramsey. Mike Malloy, formerly live on 960 at 6pm, is moved to 1am to make way for "Market Wrap" then stephanie at 7? Thom at 10. Randi Rhodes and Norman Goldman remain live.
- March: KPTQ 1280 Spokane (the now right wing hometown of former Senate Majority Leader and Democrat, Tom Foley) flips from prog talk to classic country.

Look these stations up on wikipedia.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:42 PM

33. Mike Malloy is just going off about this and points out Arbitron ratings are BS,

since those diaries aren't a very concrete, scientific method of measuring ratings compared with the Nielsen ratings measurements.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:44 AM

39. Poor ratings rationalization is BS! KPOJ is 25,000 watts daytime versus 50,000 watts

... for all of the other AM stations in the day time listed here. It's not comparing apples and oranges. The same thing happened when Clear Channel took down KLSD (progressive talk radio) in San Diego and replaced it with sports talk as well. It was also significantly lower powered than the competitors that were getting higher ratings with this added power that Clear Channel rationalized as the reason to switch to a sports format.

Clear Channel tried to get the antenna switched to 50,000 watts after the switch, but didn't get that to go through. If you look here on wikipedia note that when KLSD was progressive format, it had 1.6 rating. When it switched to sports it DROPPED down to 0.3. The business reasons are complete CRAP, and is what Clear Channel's game has been to get rid of progressive talk radio around the country. Read more at wikipedia at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLSD

Also, check out the documentary "Save KLSD". I was down in San Diego then, and was part of a number of the protests there that were filmed in it. Have kept in touch with those who made the film, who had a showing of it here in Portland some months ago. I just sent an email to one of them perhaps to see if they could come out to have another showing with it being a lot more relevant to us now.

If you go to "Save KLSD"'s web site, it might give us some ideas on how to fight this, as they've gone through a lot of what we're just starting to go through now.



http://www.saveklsd.com/

A few things in our favor that KLSD didn't have going for it:
1) Thom Hartmann's ties to KPOJ ought to give it that much more attention. I remember actually trying to get Thom Hartmann to help bring attention to KLSD's problems then, but I think he was trying to be careful not to rock the boat too heavily with Clear Channel then. Now he has a lot less to lose, and probably more to be PO'd about too with what happened here. I have a feeling Clear Channel intentionally waited until right after the election, figuring that Thom Hartmann would have a drop in people watching then on his national television show on FSTV that would keep it from getting as much attention. It's up to us to make sure that they don't get away with "hiding" their actions.

2) Portland is a more liberal area than San Diego was, which was one reason I moved up here. San Diego definitely had its local controversies that got many of us riled up, like Duke Cunningham and many related scandals here, Blackwater, Carol Lamm getting fired, but I think the core listener base is probably a bigger part of the community here than it is down there.

3) Now we have more power in the state and local government here to help us in court as well as perhaps other efforts to get proper regulation and authorization for formats, etc. here locally perhaps in our favor.

Now here are some alternatives for you if you still need your talk radio fix.
1) FSTV has Thom Hartmann on every day if you get satellite TV. Current TV has Stephanie Miller, the Young Turks, Bill Press and others too that can help, but that doesn't help you when you're out and about.

2) I still kept (thankfully) my satellite radio subscription in my car for Sirius/XM. Sirius Left is good and carries a number of talkers like Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy, Mark Thompson, etc. I'm a little concerned about Sirius and XM having merged, and now Liberty Communications has been making moves to acquire it, which might be a more "stealth" Newscorp like media company, who shares some ownership with it. We should be that much more adamant about keeping them from doing so, to help avoid the media consolidation which has given us monsters like Bain's Clear Channel.

3) I see that KBBR (1340) in Coos Bay also has progressive talk and isn't owned by Clear Channel. I wonder if some kind of deal could be made to get them to get a repeater up here in Portland to take the place of KPOJ? Perhaps if they get more ratings that way, they might enjoy the prospect of being able to have a local talk show host like Carl Wolfson if he could be persuaded to go down there from time to time too.

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Response to cascadiance (Reply #39)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:56 AM

40. A repeater? Hmm.

97.9 FM in Portland is already a repeater of a Cumulus-owned rock station in Eugene to make up for 101.1 FM becoming a news/talk station that includes the iconic Oregonian conservative Lars Larson. I don't know the process of getting a repeater. But here's KBBR's schedule, and that is hardly any different from KPOJ's schedule except KBBR has Stephanie Miller in the morning followed by Ed, Thom, and Randi, then Leslie Marshall and Alan Colmes (the token libs on Fox News) in the evenings. (Tuesdays, the station has a local afternoon show.)

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:24 AM

51. Yeah, I think you are on to something and it STINKS!!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:14 PM

3. WHAT???????

Holy shit. This TOTALLY sucks. Thank goodness for the net, which is how I listen
mostly anymore. It is just so counter to Portlandia's progressive image; I'm shocked
and saddened by this move.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:20 PM

7. Someone else in that market should pick them up. I see money to be made.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:24 PM

8. My friend ,Corporations are People,

yah right. This is Willard's smack in your face for not voting for him. If anyone thinks Willard doe not call the shots at Bain,get your head out of your butt.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:24 PM

9. Liberals should appeal to the FCC for re-issuing the licenses because of so little

diversity in radio. I'm so sick of clear channel I could puke.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:59 PM

57. I wrote my congressswoman

Suzanne Bonamici complaining about this and the need to re-instate the fairness doctrine as well as breaking up the CC monopoly!

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Response to hogwyld (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:02 AM

59. Good move! I'll write my wingnut congresswoman. But I doubt she can read.

We still have ONE democratic senator in North Carolina. The Koch brothers spent so much money in this state, we've ended up with a house & senate teaparty, and now a governor tea party mascot trying to act like a business man.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:25 PM

10. am 1090 progressive talk

 

1090 is a great progressive talk radio in seattle. i live on whidbey island WA and when i go to my home in new mexico i am happy because i pick it up on the internet. it is so easy and i don't have to miss my norman goldman slamming the republicons.

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Response to mcgarry50 (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:51 PM

17. Thanks. I'll listen to

....it on the internet. Bay Area progressive radio lost its AM programming to Glen Beck! In San Francisco. Ghastly.

But Randi Rhodes, Norm Goldman, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartman, Mike Malloy and Bill Press are on all night--when it's harder to hear them.

People should support the night time programming and live stream: 960AM

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Response to zentrum (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:26 PM

24. At night 960 in the bay area gets INTERFERENCE from a canadian station.

http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/am-broadcast-station-classes-clear-regional-and-local-channels

In the US, AM 960 stations are classified "regional" and must adjust power/direction to prevent cross regional interference. 960 out of Oakland broadcasts 5 kw day/night, class b. However, 960 the sports station out of Calgary, Alberta, Canada (CFAC) broadcasts at 50 kw, so at bought the signal blasts all the way to northern California! We got to complain to the CRTC (the FCC of Canada).

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Response to mcgarry50 (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:21 PM

23. I just hope we don't see AM1090 following suit..

Fortunately, I'm pretty sure they're not affiliated with Clear(AllProgressiveTalkOffEvery)Channel.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:27 PM

25. CBS owns KPTK 1090.

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Response to mcgarry50 (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:32 PM

27. Is your home near Albuquerque?

Goldman show is on KABQ 1350 delayed by 3 hours.

http://www.abqtalk.com/

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:33 PM

12. CRAP! NT

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:37 PM

13. That's what happened to WEVD (NYC) on September 1, 2001.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:45 PM

15. Terrible.

It's retaliation and the hope that we won't be as informed in the next election cycle.

They already ended progressive radio in NYC---can you imagine that a city the size of NY only has Pacifica Radio which is always scrambling for bucks and plays music half the time. The Bay Area's 960AM may now follow. Terrible.



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Response to zentrum (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:01 PM

20. WWRL 1600

NYC's liberal station...home to Ed Schultz (LIVE FROM 30 ROCK), Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, Al Sharpton, and Mike Riley in the morning!

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Response to alp227 (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:23 AM

50. YEAH but what about Norman Goldman? I love his show.. even better than Randi-I used

to love her and have been a fan for years, but I dont know what has happened in the last year or so. She

has gotten so strident and shrill. What's the deal? She keep harping on a topic and running it into the

ground -spending 1/4 of her show on 1 really trivial topic instead of moving on - really annoying.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:48 PM

16. This station was doing pretty good at one point

I wonder why the drop off in ratings, especially in the run up to the election.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:49 PM

34. Over-confidence that Obama could win? Something about Portlanders?

In fact the NPR station in Portland (KOPB) has a higher share than either right wing talk station (KEX, KXL) had last month. So don't think there's a correlation between political ideology/ratings. Maybe the people in the area prefer NPR over commercial stations?

See also the ratings of Portland radio Apr-Jul http://feedback.pdxradio.com/topic/portland-ppm-july-2012

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:56 PM

18. CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:04 PM

21. Norman Goldman stated that corporate leaders were determined to remove progressive talk show hosts

off of the airwaves.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:08 PM

22. Does KBOO still do progressive call-in shows in the morning?

They use to have call-in programs from 7:30-9:00AM every weekday.

This may open an opportunity for them to do so again.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:28 PM

26. The local part of the show went downhill after Christine Alexander left.

Hell, I'm from Florida and I would listen to her and Carl's segment on the internets.

They should have replaced her instead of letting Carl take it by himself.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:48 PM

28. When

Can we break up clear?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:35 PM

29. Radio consolidation means the end of regional voices,

as well as any programming that veers from the corporate narrative.

Blame Bill fucking Clinton for signing the Telecommunication Deregulation Act and giving us this mess.

Former Clear Channel employee, OnyxCollie, who lost his career when Cheap Channel saddled his station with debt from other acquisitions, driving it into the ground and then selling it off.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:34 PM

31. Guess it's time to

load a couple cases of CD's into the car.
Too bad. I used to listen to KPOJ a lot.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:23 PM

32. AM 950

 

We lost our AM 1360 station here in San Diego a few years ago. It became a sports station. Listening to Air America helped me to make the decision to leave the rethug party. I have the AM 950 app on my iPhone 5, so I get Big Eddie and other again. If you have a smart phone, download the app.

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Response to USMCMustang (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:05 PM

64. The Tunein app is great for a ton of different stations out there - you can even

search using the show host's name if you want.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:13 PM

35. If we had fairness doctrine, we would not have the poison that is Fox news.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:10 AM

36. relavent,... David Frum on Morning Joe

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#49757420 begin at 11:27 in... "lied to by a conservative entertainment complex". this from a right winger.

extreme blowhards like Rush are blowing it, even for Republicans.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:39 AM

37. I tried to post this on Willamette Week comment section

But it wouldn't let me.

Restore the Airwaves to the "Public"
http://signon.org/sign/restore-the-airwaves

Please sign and tell your friends.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:08 AM

38. signed!

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Response to alp227 (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:36 AM

42. i signed

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:16 PM

46. Signed. Thanks.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:53 PM

48. signed it, and sent to several others. Thanks. nt

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:28 AM

41. THAT IS HORRIBLE

I LIVE IN PORTLAND
\\\





WHAT AN I GONNA DO NOW??? PORTLAND OREGON IS TOTALLY BLUE

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:09 PM

47. Don't fret, somebody will figure it out

A vacuum almost always gets filled, sometimes it takes a little time but don't worry, someone will help us figure it out

And congratulations on Oregon going so blue, we in Cali are not doing so bad either

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:56 AM

43. Kick (nt)

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:41 AM

44. This is the take away lesson

Never, never, ever put yourself at the mercy of Right Wingers. Not ever, ever, ever.

If you are, get yourself out of it. Then work from there and don't ever put yourself in that position again.

If progressive radio went totally on the Internet and let the Right have the airwaves, Right Wing Radio would be the ones solely bearing all of the criticism and worry over being cancelled - due to all the people they offend on a daily basis - and we could sit back and laugh. Meanwhile, our radio personalities would be beyond the reach of vengeful Right Wing Capitalists.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:50 PM

45. Many liberals seem unaware of AM radio

As alp227 alludes to, I think that many liberals consider AM radio to be a vestigial remnant (or not thought of at all), whereas many conservatives never left AM radio, and then gladly stuck with it after the loss of the Fairness Doctrine. The canard of the "liberal media has everything else" is now etched permanently into the minds of the right wing AM radio listener. The other myth pushed relentlessly by the right wing--that NPR "is what YOU people have," is just that--a myth. If NPR really is "liberal," then we wouldn't hear anything from the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, or hear the likes of David Brooks at any time, much less on a regular basis. All the same, many liberals probably feel that NPR is better than the only other alternative they ever think exists, which is a lot of static-prone reception as a background for angry old white men speaking nonsense.

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Response to Jim Spriggs (Reply #45)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:59 AM

53. Could not agree more

It's the NPR numbers.

NPR grabs such a hunk of the 'left' side of the market there is not much room left for 'commercial' progressive radio. And, as you note, its about as 'left' as Richard Nixon when it comes to current events coverage.

Great post, BTW.

Following are a couple of my older posts along these lines.



NPR . . Where even Richard Nixon has got soul.





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Response to Strelnikov_ (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:00 AM

54. Commercial Progressive/Liberal Radio Is Not Viable

Why people expect power to support those talking truth to power is beyond me.

There is a ready market of over 40% of the populace in even the reddest of areas that are not currently served by political talk radio. What every business model requires, a ready-made market.

Problem is, the money boys (advertisers, station owners) are from the other side of the political divide, and most apparently would prefer to lose money. Even worse, they are now apparently buying up AAR affiliates with good numbers in order to push them off the air. No station, no problem.

So much for the free market.

Instead of trying to ‘fight the last war’, that is, model progressive talk radio after Reich-Wing radio, a different (and not really innovative), approach is needed.

This approach is . . . . use the NPR model.

In larger, left leaning cities, commercial Progressive radio will be viable due to the critical mass of advertisers. In smaller, or redder, markets, where most of the advertisers are prejudiced, funding would come from the ‘Corporation For Progressive Radio’ to offset losses.

As Liberals/Progressives, we would need to donate $100/200 a year to the corporation (I used to donate this much to NPR). If 1/6 of Kerry voters donated $100/yr., $1 B a year could be raised.

My belief is that until those in the Red areas (Phoenix, Missoula, Atlanta, etc. etc.) are provided access to an alternative to Reich-Wing propaganda radio, Progressive politicians will make limited inroads. Some discount the effect of Reich-Wing propaganda radio on the political shift, and dumbing down, of the electorate, particularly the ‘working class’. I do not. Radio is low cost (for the consumer), convenient, and pervasive among the ‘working class’.

One other change is that the on-air ‘personalities’ would need to accept that they are part of a movement, and park their ego, and need for $1 M/yr paychecks, at the door.

My experience with all cities, and particularly ‘Red’ cities (St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, Des Moines, Albuquerque), is that the older/university neighborhoods are ‘Blue’, surrounded by ‘Red’ suburbs which are the enclaves of the middle and ‘working’ classes. That is, the part of the electorate that has been consistently voting against their best interest. Therefore, the primary strategy would be to ‘serve’ these areas. The ‘Blue’ would provide a critical mass of funds, with the CPR providing funds to keep the enterprise ‘just in the black’.

A secondary strategy would be a salient into smaller markets with larger universities (Columbia, MO, Springfield,. MO, Iowa City/Cedar Rapids, IA, Fort Collins, CO) and therefore a younger demographic. The dynamic in these smaller cities would be similar to the larger cities, with the relatively large progressive base proving the revenue to operate nearly self-sufficient.

A third, and probably most important, strategy, will be an air-drops into (typically ‘Red’) smaller cities that are rural regional centers (Quincy, IL, Topeka, KS, Waterloo, IA, Quad Cities, IA). These operations would probably require the most funds from the CPR.

Parallel to all of the above, ownership of stations should be the priority, or the sorry situation in Missoula and Phoenix will simply continue. With an adequately funded CPR, when a station comes up for sale, they would be ready. On-line funding drives could even be effected to raise funds to outbid the Christo/Corporatist oligarchy.

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Response to Strelnikov_ (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:03 AM

55. NPR Sucks

I am writing to express my disgust with the rightward shift of your station, and NPR, over the last year. It appears to me that you have fallen into the "earth is flat, opinions differ" approach to GOP/right-wing journalism. I have heard many comments over the last year that called into question the integrity of your staff, but on today’s ‘Talk of Iowa’, specifically, the ‘Dr. Politics’ show; my ‘line in the sand’ was finally crossed.

On last weeks segment, K. Perkins and Dr. Schmidt allowed an obviously far right individual to rant on for what seemed like 10 min. During this tirade, near the end, the right-wing smear that Sen. Max Cleland was somehow not deserving of ‘decorated veteran’ status because his injuries were the result of an accident (a smear first put forth by Ann Coulter) was presented. The hosts of the program did not intercede at any point during this tirade. Actually, this individual went further than Ms. Coulter in claiming that Sen. Cleland was responsible for killing two other soldiers and blowing up a helicopter in the accident.

Now, on this week’s program, a caller expressed concern that one of the hosts should have questioned the individual denigrating Sen. Cleland regarding the factual basis of the statements. To this, Dr. Schmidt replied that this is an opinion show, and that the caller is responsible for the accuracy of their statements.

My experience with your station, and these two individuals in particular, is that anything stated by the right leaning is taken at face value, while the veracity of any statements by anyone left leaning is called into question. And when I say left leaning, I mean anyone not presenting a party line GOP/right-wing position.

Examples? Well, here is one.

On the June 29th, 2004 ‘Talk of Iowa’ program, with K. Perkins and a stand-in for Dr. Schmidt, the following transpired.

The movie Fahrenheit 9/11 was being discussed. Some (partial) quotes from the above commentators are as follows:

"I would compare it to Oliver Stone's film JFK . . . "

"I haven't seen the film, but the art of propaganda . . ."

A number of people called in supporting the film, noting that it is being misrepresented by the mainstream media, that it is not comparable to "JFK", that it is eye-opening, etc.

After a number of these calls where Ms. Perkins expressed her skepticism with the caller’s position, she stated, "we are journalists, and are supposed to be skeptical."

Later in this program a caller noted that fourteen massive bases are being built in Iraq by the U.S. for permanent basing of U.S. Forces. At this, Ms. Perkins grilled the caller as to the source of this information, and then pontificated again on how she is a journalist and must have sources for information. That is, of course, unless the information supports the GOP/right-wing position.

(By the way, the information on the bases is out there, the same way that it was clear in early summer of 2002 that we were invading Iraq. But if you are looking for a Washington Post article on them, forget it. But I guess since you are modern journalists, you need to wait until there is an ‘investigative’ press release before you report.)

And I am not even going to mention where Dr. Schmidt today noted that the Kerry daughters were booed at the MTV awards, but did not mention that the Bush daughters were also booed. Nor the recent FAIR study documenting NPR's preference for GOP/right-wing leaning guests.

The above incidents are simply the more egregious examples of GOP/right-wing bias that I remember. Like all marriages that end in divorce, the partners gradually grow apart, as result of the cumulative effect of differences, as we obviously have done.

I am a long time contributor to NPR in the various communities I have lived in over the years. I did not pledge the last drive due to my perception of your rightward shift. Basically, I was monitoring to see if this was a short-term aberration.

As of today, I am done with you, and NPR. I request that you remove my name form your membership rolls, and cease any future mailings from your organization, as I have no interest in associating myself with a Fox News knock off. Lets just see how many member contributions you can garner from the GOP/right-wing.

“If you give the people the choice of a Republican and a Republican, they will choose the Republican every time”.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:15 AM

49. Oh NO!!!?? I stream KPOJ at work most of the day-this is distressing..

Jeez - Clear Channel sucks!!!

I'm sure that there are millions of people STREAMING- and that doesn't count for Arbitron does it???

Hey! Clear Channel welcome to the digital Age you SOBs!!!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:52 AM

52. Clear Channel

That is all you need to know..

It is ironic that Star Wars is finally going to film 7 8 and 9, the movies that talk about how the Empire came back after the Death Star blew up. Let us remember, the enemy does not sleep, and knows that we love to celebrate,giving it time to lick it's wounds.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:15 PM

56. Wow, I was wondering what happened

on my commute in. Went to the website and was shocked to find ANOTHER sports talk format. I went ahead and voiced my displeasure, not that it will do anything. I guess I'll have to go buy an XM/Sirius radio for the car now. Fucking clear channel!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:26 PM

58. Sorry to hear your news!

My name is John and I live in Colorado. I am worried about our am 760 KKZN out of Denver. It is the only progressive talk station in Colorado. Owned by none other than Clear Channel Communications. We do have "Democracy Now" on several low powered stations, but nothing like 50,000 watt KKZN.
I posted Brad's blog on KKZN's face-book account to warn Coloradans that we could be in the same predicament that you found yourself in. We need to write the current administration about this insanity.

John

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Response to cojohn59 (Reply #58)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:34 AM

60. Welcome to DU!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:21 PM

61. unite...

Portland was the birthplace of Air America. Progressives need to unite to restore KPOJ. We need to put our heads together, and come up with a plan of attack. I believe in strength in numbers. I have been a local 48 IBEW member for 35 years, and am well aware of the power of uniting for a common cause................

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Response to alpineviking (Reply #61)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:33 PM

62. Welcome to DU!

The identical thing happened to the Mic 92.1 in Madison. The plan was to replace the FM, yes, FM talk radio station with 2nd tier sports. Well, the good people of Madison rose up (imagine that! ) and demanded the format remain Progressive talk and they won!

I would suggest the good people of Portland get in touch with the folks in Madison who organized the protest. I'd start with their FB page and see if anyone who organized the protest can be found there.

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Response to alpineviking (Reply #61)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:44 PM

63. Welcome to DU!

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