Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:56 PM
kpete (38,886 posts)
BREAKING NEWS: CIA Director Petraeus submits resignation letter, citing extramarital affairLast edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:16 PM USA/ET - Edit history (4)
Source: MSNBC
BREAKING NEWS: Director of CIA, David Petraeus, submits letter of resignation BREAKING NEWS: CIA Director Petraeus submits resignation letter, citing extramarital affair Updated Link: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054517-cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair Gen. David Petraeus has resigned as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, MSNBC reports. MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell broke the news Friday afternoon, reading Petraeus' resignation letter on air. Petraeus wrote in the letter to the CIA staff on Friday that he had gone to the White House on Thursday and asked the president "for personal reasons" to resign. "After being married for more than 37 years I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair," Petraeus wrote in his letter. "Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as a leader of an organization such as ours." Petraeus said that the president accepted his resignation on Thursday. This is a breaking news entry. More to come... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-resigns-cia-director-affair_n_2103094.html Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/default.aspx?id=11881780&q=patreaus&search=p&1=st&1
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:57 PM
NRaleighLiberal (28,605 posts)
1. Tweet from watchdog progressive
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Watchdog Progressive @Watchdogsniffer
BREAKING: Gen. David Petraeus resigns CIA due to personal reasons..... engaged in an extra-marital affair via #MSNBC #p2 |
Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
demwing (10,947 posts)
3. holy cow!
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You have to wonder if he was holding that letter till after the election
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Response to demwing (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:12 PM
JohnnyRingo (9,327 posts)
22. That's a good question
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I hadn't considered that Petraeus may have been waiting so as not to affect the election. If so, I respect his patriotic decision not to steal the limelight from the CIC.
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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #22)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:25 PM
SoapBox (5,812 posts)
45. Ditto...had not considered that. nt
Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #22)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:45 PM
erpowers (5,120 posts)
65. Not Patriotic
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I am not trying to be mean to you, but his decision to wait until after the election, if that is what he did, was not patriotic. It was a good thing, but not patriotic.
There was no reason for General Petraeus' affair to be a part of the election. President Obama did not have anything to do with the affair. It was not and is not in the President's job description to prevent people from cheating on their spouses. |
Response to erpowers (Reply #65)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:53 PM
muriel_volestrangler (65,316 posts)
75. But some would have claimed it was Obama forcing him out
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and they would have tried it to Benghazi (eg Fox News). Petraeus is generally seen as Republican-leaning. No, it'd wouldn't make any sense, but then they gave up doing that some time ago. It would have been a mess, and I think it's good that it didn't happen right before the election; if he did delay until after, that reflects well on him (he's not a crazy Republican).
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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #75)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:21 PM
Mojorabbit (12,774 posts)
90. I am wondering if he had any role in furthering the
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rumors re the Benghazi mess.
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Response to erpowers (Reply #65)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:21 PM
JohnnyRingo (9,327 posts)
106. Whether you consider it patriotic or not...
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...and whether or not you like him, he's a lifer in the military, and as such I'm sure he respects the chain of command.
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Response to erpowers (Reply #65)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
crunch60 (1,412 posts)
125. I don't believe anyone knows about his decision regarding "when" to turn
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in his resignation, so let's stop all the guessing and innuendos. Serves no purpose because we'll never know.
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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
loudsue (12,383 posts)
4. Wow! CIA director having an affair? Pillow talk could be dangerous
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to our national security.
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Response to loudsue (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:16 PM
pasto76 (1,333 posts)
27. yes. Being blackmailed, even moresoe
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which is the real concern.
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Response to pasto76 (Reply #27)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:19 PM
Scuba (26,697 posts)
31. Blackmail? All you have to say is "OK, go public", which he did.
Response to loudsue (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:25 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (21,990 posts)
138. Especially those from the Soviet Union!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
Democrats_win (5,992 posts)
2. Turn out the lights the Petraeus is over.
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:00 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Part of me wouldn't mind seeing the CIA closed. Although they did help get OBL, they didn't stop 9/11. They're pretty expensive for doing such a poor job.
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Response to Democrats_win (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:45 PM
xtraxritical (2,954 posts)
66. Bush did not bother to read the Presidential Daily Breifing that the CIA presented to him
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regarding possible Al Qaeda attacks on US soil. I think his stated reason for resigning is probably cover and he was asked to leave by the President for his handling of the Benghazi attacks.
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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #66)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:09 PM
DonViejo (4,492 posts)
86. Nonsense. nt
Response to Democrats_win (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:19 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
127. They completely missed the impending breakup of the USSR. What a bunch of fuckwads - n/t
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
Suich (8,834 posts)
5. Petraeus needs to answer some questions about Benghazi!
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Response to Suich (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:20 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
128. He deserves the same treatment as Bradley Manning received and is receiving. Full
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Court Martial. Solitary confinement and forced to stand naked.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:00 PM
Mme. Defarge (2,881 posts)
6. Extra-Marital Affair???
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Enough of a reason to resign? Vulnerable to blackmail?
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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:11 PM
JustABozoOnThisBus (9,916 posts)
20. No. Once you admit to whatever you've done ...
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... blackmailers got nothing.
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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:23 PM
LanternWaste (16,310 posts)
43. He admitted post hoc due to the affair., not despite it.
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He admitted post hoc due to the affair., not despite it.
Had he kept silent, the potential for blackmail would indeed have been present. |
Response to LanternWaste (Reply #43)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:39 PM
Mme. Defarge (2,881 posts)
57. What about the potential
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BEFORE he publicly confessed and resigned?
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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #57)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:44 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
61. Do you think President Clinton should have resigned?
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I don't. What makes Petraeus' infidelity more troubling. Do you think the President has a lower security clearance than the CIA director?
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Response to onenote (Reply #61)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:58 PM
dsc (39,379 posts)
80. One difference is that CIA agents who have affairs
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are often forced to resign.
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Response to dsc (Reply #80)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:05 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
84. Why should they be?
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If its because of the risk of them disclosing secrets or being blackmailed, what differentiates them from any other official with a top secret security clearance, including the President?
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Response to onenote (Reply #84)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:53 PM
jeff47 (7,403 posts)
99. Because they can't hold a security clearance.
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By having an affair, they've demonstrated they will lie to someone who is supposed to be extremely important to them.
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #99)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:59 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
100. Isn't that true of anyone that has a security clearance, including the president
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I'm playing devil's advocate a bit here, but seeing as I didn't think President Clinton's infidelity while in office justified calls for his resignation, I'm wondering why it seems so self-evident that Petraeus, or others who have security clearances, are held to a different standard.
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Response to onenote (Reply #100)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:53 PM
jeff47 (7,403 posts)
118. The President doesn't have a security clearance
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:54 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) He is the security clearance.
Congress delegated the entire security clearance process to the Executive branch. The process flows from executive orders, many of which delegate the process further. What that means is the President has access to all classified information no matter what. Even if he has been convicted of espionage. There's no one who has the authority to cut off his access as long as he's in office. |
Response to jeff47 (Reply #118)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:02 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
120. doesn't that just make my point?
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If the reason for demanding the resignation of someone with access to secret information who has an affair is that they might compromise security by letting slip some information or might be susceptible to blackmail, why wouldn't the same standard apply to the president, who has the greatest access to secret information of anyone?
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Response to onenote (Reply #120)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:22 PM
jeff47 (7,403 posts)
121. Patraus's resignation isn't to take away his clearance
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The resignation is because he can't do the job because his clearance is gone.
There's no mechanism to take away a President's clearance. |
Response to onenote (Reply #61)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:27 PM
olddad56 (2,827 posts)
108. He did not have sex with that woman, said so himself.
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should Bush have resigned for banging Condi?
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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #20)
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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:34 PM
Javaman (40,608 posts)
52. It's against military regs, believe it or not. nt
Response to Javaman (Reply #52)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:41 PM
KeepItReal (5,321 posts)
59. He's not in the Army any more
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Retired in 2011.
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Response to Javaman (Reply #52)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:51 PM
xtraxritical (2,954 posts)
72. Just yesterday General Sinclare got caught up in a similar scandal.
Response to Javaman (Reply #52)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:09 PM
sarge43 (17,452 posts)
103. He's retired. The UCMJ doesn't apply. n/t
Response to sarge43 (Reply #103)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:14 AM
Javaman (40,608 posts)
148. Duh, you're right. My bad. nt
Response to Javaman (Reply #148)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:37 AM
sarge43 (17,452 posts)
149. It doesn't apply that often to active duty types.
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An army corps, a major air command or fleet could be formed up with all the military who violate that article. Looking at you, John McCain.
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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:55 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,498 posts)
130. Affairs are a court martial offense...
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under the UCMJ
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:01 PM
grasswire (36,694 posts)
7. he was blackmailable ----- holy crap
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So, so against national security.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:01 PM
struggle4progress (71,475 posts)
8. NBC: David Petraeus resigns from CIA
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:06 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) 3:00PM EST November 9. 2012 - NBC reported Friday that CIA director David Petraeus has resigned from the CIA, citing an extramarital affair.
NBC's Andrea Mitchell said the resignation was submitted in a letter dated Friday and was accepted by the White House. In a letter, Petraeus noted that he had been married for 37 years and had exercised "extremely poor judgment' in conducting an extramarital affair ... http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-cia-resign-nbc/1695271/ |
Response to struggle4progress (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:41 PM
GeorgeGist (9,533 posts)
58. Why do people parrot ...
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) what the OP has already made clear?
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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #58)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:55 PM
rosesaylavee (11,719 posts)
79. no doubt the admins have combined multiple related threads into one. nt
Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #58)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:15 PM
struggle4progress (71,475 posts)
89. IIRC OP when I first posted had no link
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:16 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Red edit message is currently suppressed due to high traffic
I looked for, and posted, material I thought provided more info |
Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #58)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:22 AM
ronnie624 (3,692 posts)
153. To look smart, informed and snappy;
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an opportunity to post a link and drive up your post count.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:03 PM
NRaleighLiberal (28,605 posts)
9. Link from TPM - embedded video clip from MSNBC
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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
pinto (97,891 posts)
18. The MSNBC video clip - Mitchell reads the letter. Apparently the President has accepted resignation.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:03 PM
skydive forever (123 posts)
10. This is surprising because to be a general
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you have to be very disciplined. This shows even someone like him is human deep down.
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Response to skydive forever (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:36 PM
erpowers (5,120 posts)
54. Not Really
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It seems that you really do not have to be very disciplined to be a general. A number of generals, admirals, and high ranking officers get into trouble concerning sex and other things. Generals and high ranking officers can be a wild bunch. It seems you just do not hear about it all the time.
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Response to skydive forever (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:04 PM
Rozlee (1,369 posts)
81. It happened to Dwight D. Eisenhower.
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The scuttlebutt claims he even wanted to leave Mamie for Kay Summersby but got such a dressing down from the brass back home, that he backed down. I was reading once that men in high offices and positions of power have more testosterone than men in everyday life. That usually translates to higher sex drives according to the article. Individual morals and conscience take over from there.
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Response to skydive forever (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:08 PM
sarge43 (17,452 posts)
102. Not really
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Eisenhower and Kay Summersby immediately come to mind.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
Thrill (16,951 posts)
11. He must be fucking a high profile person in Washington
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Or he wouldn't be resigning
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:05 PM
grahamhgreen (9,791 posts)
12. Awesome! Now can we appoint someone who understands that blowback from these idiotic CIA exploits
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(such as hiring bin Laden) is more costly than doing nothing?
I suggest Kucinich. |
Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:32 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
129. Would it be utter heresy to suggest Ralph Nader or Noam Chomsky? - n/t
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #129)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:59 PM
grahamhgreen (9,791 posts)
131. How bout Valerie Plame?
Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #131)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:00 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
132. I'd settle for her or her husband. One thing's for sure. Neither would have
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missed the impending break-up of the USSR.
Jay-sus, you can't make this shit up. |
Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #131)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:24 PM
SharonRB (28,084 posts)
162. I said this to my husband the other night
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I was only half joking. I'd love to see Republican heads explode by having her or Joe Wilson named as head of the CIA. Talk about karma!
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Response to SharonRB (Reply #162)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:33 PM
grahamhgreen (9,791 posts)
163. You know, they should just float the names to drive the R's crazy!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:06 PM
wicket (14,868 posts)
13. Cheated on his wife!
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WOW!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:07 PM
valerief (35,675 posts)
14. Jeez, more sex nonsense wallpapering the news. What a moronic country. Avoid real problems
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:09 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) to deal with consensual sex nonsense.
Unless, of course, the sex nonsense is a cover for something real. |
Response to valerief (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:20 PM
Scuba (26,697 posts)
35. Bingo. There is no blackmail if he just says "yes, I did that".
Response to valerief (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:22 PM
Zen Democrat (4,593 posts)
40. If it's the CIA Director it's inexcusable because he's open to blackmail.
Response to Zen Democrat (Reply #40)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:31 PM
valerief (35,675 posts)
48. All of our elected officials are open to blackmail. nt
Response to Zen Democrat (Reply #40)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
70. Why is it less excusable than the president himself being unfaithful
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I didn't think President Clinton's infidelity disqualified him from serving as president and he obviously has as high a security clearance as anyone in government.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:07 PM
rurallib (31,128 posts)
15. so much for that run at the presidency.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:08 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
16. My, my, how the darlings of the moralizing right turn out . . . nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:09 PM
JohnnyRingo (9,327 posts)
17. He must have known it was coming out soon
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That's the reason he has to go. If the CIA director puts himself in a position where he can be blackmailed, it puts US security at risk.
Surprising conduct from a man who is known for his professionalism. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
BainsBane (9,419 posts)
19. This is about Benghazi
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The CIA screwed up the intel and made the White House look bad.
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Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
moobu2 (3,675 posts)
23. He may have been flushed out by the investigation
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or was scared he would have been found out. There's no way he could have hidden anything like this.
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Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:14 PM
mac56 (13,647 posts)
25. Or maybe... and I know this suggestion is just plain nuts...
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but maybe it is just what it appears to be.
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Response to mac56 (Reply #25)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:21 PM
randome (12,622 posts)
39. That's the nuttiest suggestion so far!
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Response to mac56 (Reply #25)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:24 PM
BainsBane (9,419 posts)
44. MSNBC reported that Obama was about to dump Petraeus
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over Benghazi. That was before the affair story become public. Evidently he has never been a good fit with the CIA since he comes from a military background.
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Response to mac56 (Reply #25)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:44 PM
Liberal Veteran (20,368 posts)
62. Worst Conspiracy Theory Ever!
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Response to mac56 (Reply #25)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:39 PM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
111. if so, it's a wacky reason to leave service
Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:15 PM
Agnosticsherbet (1,210 posts)
26. According to Petreus, there was screwing going on...
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But to be unfaithful with an entire city? I can't see it.
I don't see any evidence this is about Benghazi, and if he was being fired, convincing him to trash his own life is the wrong way to do it. |
Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:32 PM
valerief (35,675 posts)
49. That makes the most sense to me. nt
Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:52 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
73. Utter nonsense. Right is spinnging that shite. Petraeus fell of own moral failing. He wasn't pushed.
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #73)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:08 PM
BainsBane (9,419 posts)
115. This is what I heard
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Before the affair story broke. On MSNBC they said that Obama wanted to get rid of Petraeus. They thought it was a result of Benghazi. Now they could have been wrong. Then a couple of hours later this story breaks. I did NOT base my post on a right wing source.
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Response to BainsBane (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:55 PM
underpants (105,621 posts)
113. I heard that on tape delay of Hannity's show (sit hosts)
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of course when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:12 PM
Blue_Tires (31,659 posts)
21. I'm wondering if the "affair" is a smokescreen for a much worse reason...
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Something the general public couldn't easily digest and dismiss...Something that isn't as media-friendly as a sex sandal between consenting adults...
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:14 PM
bayareamike (589 posts)
24. Any hypotheses? nt
Response to bayareamike (Reply #24)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:16 PM
Blue_Tires (31,659 posts)
28. Some people are already saying Benghazi
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And it could be, but he was CIA so it could be damn near anything...
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Response to bayareamike (Reply #24)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:21 PM
glinda (12,075 posts)
38. He had an affair. It was going to be outed and used against the current Government? He decided
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to step down to avoid more tension in this Country?
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:19 PM
ciking724 (75 posts)
32. Maybe like a non-heterosexual affair? That was my first thought.
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My next thought is that Rove and his cohorts tried to get him to play along with that Benghazi thing and he wouldn't, so they were going to expose him. This sounds more believable to me.
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Response to ciking724 (Reply #32)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:23 PM
demhottie (292 posts)
41. sounds plausible
Response to ciking724 (Reply #32)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:04 PM
Maven (7,760 posts)
82. Holy crap - I bet you're absolutely right about Rove blackmailing him
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:17 PM
struggle4progress (71,475 posts)
29. CIA Director Petraeus Resigns, Cites Extramarital Affair
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... "Yesterday afternoon, I went to the White House and asked the President to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position," Petraeus said in his resignation letter. "After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours."
"This afternoon, the President graciously accepted my resignation," Petraeus said in the letter ... http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/NATL-CIA-Director-Petraeus-Resigns-Cites-Extra-Marital-Affair-178159541.html |
Response to struggle4progress (Reply #29)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:25 PM
are_you_serious_1234 (54 posts)
122. The story goes that the FBI was investigating something broader when they ran into this affair.
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Anyone have any theories of what that investigation may have been about?
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Response to are_you_serious_1234 (Reply #122)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:39 PM
struggle4progress (71,475 posts)
124. they were investigating her as a source of leaks, according to rumor
Response to struggle4progress (Reply #124)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:46 PM
are_you_serious_1234 (54 posts)
135. Ok. Hadn't heard that rumor. Thanks for the update.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:17 PM
Kolesar (29,316 posts)
30. Petraeus, betrayus,
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but whatever you do, don't lay us!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:19 PM
PCIntern (13,852 posts)
33. Honest to God, I thought this was an Onion headline...
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wow.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:20 PM
Schema Thing (8,569 posts)
34. geez, James Bond does not approve this message!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:20 PM
windowpilot (115 posts)
36. Motherfucker betrayed us, and his ol lady.
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n/t
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Response to windowpilot (Reply #36)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:32 PM
demwing (10,947 posts)
50. I dont FEEL betrayed
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:32 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) how did he betray us?
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Response to demwing (Reply #50)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:52 PM
windowpilot (115 posts)
74. He betray the American people with his assessment of Iraq...
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Welcome to DU...
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Response to windowpilot (Reply #74)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:58 PM
demwing (10,947 posts)
114. welcome?
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Thanks, I guess? I've been here for years...
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Response to demwing (Reply #114)
windowpilot This message was hidden by Jury decision.
Response to windowpilot (Reply #116)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:11 PM
demwing (10,947 posts)
134. oh you're being "clever"
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Sorry, I didn't notice
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Response to demwing (Reply #134)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:44 PM
windowpilot (115 posts)
139. My apologies if I offend.
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I try to ignore all the 180's on this site, but sometimes it's hard when they ask stupid questions...
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Response to windowpilot (Reply #139)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:32 AM
demwing (10,947 posts)
143. You know there are no "stupid questions" :)
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but I have heard some very ridiculous answers.
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Response to demwing (Reply #143)
windowpilot This message was hidden by Jury decision.
Response to windowpilot (Reply #145)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:42 AM
demwing (10,947 posts)
147. Yep, I'm sure.
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what else ya got?
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Response to demwing (Reply #147)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:44 AM
windowpilot (115 posts)
150. I've got nothing for you.
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Some people live and learn, others just post...
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Response to windowpilot (Reply #150)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:25 PM
demwing (10,947 posts)
154. And in the end, we agree
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Response to windowpilot (Reply #145)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:08 PM
Marrah_G (22,396 posts)
157. If you have been here for so long you should realize that your behavior is against the rules
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:21 PM
MoonchildCA (102 posts)
37. I agree with others...
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...you have to question whether this is about an affair. Though embarrassing and a bit scandalous, it's not necessarily a career killer. Resignation is.
Whatever his reasons were, I respect him for holding off until after the election. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:30 PM
demwing (10,947 posts)
46. So...Big Dog to run the CIA?
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:31 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I can't imagine a smarter, more connected person, with the ability to see all angles on a situation.
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Response to demwing (Reply #46)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:54 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
78. I can't see Bill being interested. Hillary, though, after Sec of State, hmmm? nt
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #78)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:30 PM
olddad56 (2,827 posts)
109. Let Bill take Hillary's job.
Response to olddad56 (Reply #109)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:47 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
117. Bill might like that. But it would drive the right wing crazy. Oh, wait, they already are crazy. nt
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #117)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:48 AM
sarge43 (17,452 posts)
151. Nope. Can't wet that water. n/t
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:30 PM
blueclown (1,863 posts)
47. Petraeus/Gingrich 2016
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:33 PM
struggle4progress (71,475 posts)
51. David Petraeus resigns as CIA director
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By Greg Miller, Friday, November 9, 3:18 PM
... In a statement, Obama said that Petraeus has “provided extraordinary service to the United States for decades,” saying that “through his lifetime of service David Petraeus has made our country safer and stronger.” Although the statement did not directly address Petraeus’s reason for resigning, the president said his “thoughts and prayers are with Dave and Holly Petraeus, who has done so much to help military families through her own work. I wish them the very best at this difficult time.” Over the past week, Petraeus had traveled to Libya and Jordan, and directed the agency’s response to the controversy surrounding the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi. Officials said Petraeus insisted the controversy had nothing to do with his decision to resign. He came into the CIA job after a distinguished U.S. Army career that carried him from West Point to leadership positions in which he was tapped to lead the war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/david-petraeus-resigns-as-cia-director/2012/11/09/636d204e-2aa8-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_story.html |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:34 PM
barbtries (15,010 posts)
53. he should apologize to his wife,
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or get a divorce, but why does he have to resign his job? republicans in congress never do.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:38 PM
MrYikes (668 posts)
55. He must now lose his retirement account. To accept it would be dishonorable.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:39 PM
ciking724 (75 posts)
56. Didn't that clown Bob Woodward make reference to another story
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that the Romney people were peddling, but tried to hook him with inside information on Benghazi? I remember reading something that Woodward said a few days ago, when he said they showed up at his house.
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Response to ciking724 (Reply #56)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:44 PM
randome (12,622 posts)
60. Yeah, but they gave him nothing but delays and obfuscation.
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To the point where even Woodward was disgusted with them.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:45 PM
Octafish (33,420 posts)
63. So. Another general gets caught with his pants down?
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What was it Gen. Patton said about soldiers who won't fornicate?
Whatever it was, he wasn't talking about the head of the CIA. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:45 PM
olddad56 (2,827 posts)
64. would ypu expect more from him? Not me.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:45 PM
Indi Guy (3,065 posts)
67. Little doubt that the CIA itself wanted him out - so he was nuetralized. n/t
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:48 PM
graham4anything (9,164 posts)
68. Good riddance, tata farewell, auf weidershein goodbye
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this is good news indeed.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM
ffr (1,150 posts)
69. Friday news dump. I'm resigning & after the election
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It's what is best for the country. He did right in his timing.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:50 PM
TwilightGardener (39,680 posts)
71. Whoa. That's a disappointment.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:54 PM
grahamhgreen (9,791 posts)
76. Pictures!!!! Can we see the pics, please?
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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #76)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:44 PM
are_you_serious_1234 (54 posts)
112. I don't really want to see any pictures.
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Thanks.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:54 PM
Gin (6,990 posts)
77. Maybe baby on the way
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:04 PM
Dash87 (1,526 posts)
83. Did the Republicans try to blackmail him to attack Obama on Benghazi?
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Totally baseless theory. Just speculating.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:07 PM
HereSince1628 (26,664 posts)
85. IDIOT!!!! Penis' little head thinking rather than his BIG head
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String the ass up on his petard and be DONE with him.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:09 PM
Laurian (1,117 posts)
87. I've never been a fan of Petraeus, so I'm not distressed by this. But
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I will be interested to see if there is more to this story.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:09 PM
reflection (4,844 posts)
88. Man, the wingnuts are going to be howling at the moon
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for the next few weeks. Even the hamster that spins the wheel of the Free Republic server will be screaming "CONSPIRACY"
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Response to reflection (Reply #88)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:28 PM
aletier_v (1,773 posts)
123. freepers ARE screaming conspiracy but I'm fascinated by
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how they hate Patraeus, too.
Both sites hate Boehner, too. It's quite interesting. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:27 PM
SouthLouisianaWoman (48 posts)
91. Tom Ricks on CNN just said...
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...that this may be a result of the Army officer on trial for sexual offenses. Ricks said that the officer--Sinclair--has supposedly said that if he's going to do time then he's going to take others with him. And maybe Petraeus is one of them.
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Response to SouthLouisianaWoman (Reply #91)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:25 PM
olddad56 (2,827 posts)
107. Cool, bring them all down.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:29 PM
vdogg (44 posts)
92. This must be
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The sex scandal bombshell that drudge was talking about. Honestly thought they were just trying to stir up bullshit before the election. Guess even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Response to vdogg (Reply #92)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:04 PM
TwilightGardener (39,680 posts)
133. No--the Drudge story was Bob Menendez and hookers.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:46 PM
Caeser67 (126 posts)
93. John McCain
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Just lost his favorite General.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:48 PM
Solly Mack (49,483 posts)
94. lolololololol
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:50 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
95. Bye Betrayus.
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Put in a real bulldog that'll help start cutting off black ops and redirect the slush funds back to the U.S. Treasury.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:34 PM
bobthedrummer (23,245 posts)
96. US COIN man...SOF...
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kick
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:46 PM
MrDiaz (731 posts)
97. SINCE WHEN DOES
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having an affair make you not qualified to direct the CIA? Is he still gonna testify for Obama on the Benghazi BS?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:02 PM
olddad56 (2,827 posts)
101. Could it have been Paula Broadwell?
Response to olddad56 (Reply #101)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:38 PM
csziggy (14,199 posts)
110. That's what they are saying on MSNBC Hardball
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And that she may have seen information she should not have. I was working on a project and not paying complete attention so I didn't catch all the details.
It was discussed on Hardball - watch the re-run coming up in at 7 ET. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:18 PM
watrwefitinfor (1,161 posts)
104. I'm still trying to figure out why he was made head of CIA to start with! n/t
Response to watrwefitinfor (Reply #104)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:55 PM
nolabels (11,118 posts)
158. Probably because he hadn't been in working for the C.I.A. yet
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or a least had a W-2 with their name on it. These military brass guys are all about the resumes
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:19 PM
Phlem (1,326 posts)
105. Is that all
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or is he covering up something much worse?
-p |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:00 PM
Ter (4,175 posts)
119. Let me get this stright
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The CIA covers up the JFK assassination and untold other secrets. Yet the head of it can't hide something as simple as his own affair? Wow, anyone that incompetent should resign.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:03 PM
CRH (1,211 posts)
126. lol, what a joke, ...
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All the sleasy shit the CIA has done over the years in the name of country and Wall St., and he is going to fall on an infidelity sword? I smell something much more rotten than is being said.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:48 PM
cstanleytech (5,295 posts)
136. You all remember when Cheney back in 2007 said
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"Like most Americans I admire the integrity and the candor that General Petraeus showed in his hearings before Congress." ? I wonder if he regrets those words now?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:17 PM
adicortez (41 posts)
137. He was a great General.
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If Gingrich can come back (for a short-lived run at POTUS) so can he. I hope he doesn't. Obama had nothing but good things to say about the man so I'll trust his judgement.
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Response to adicortez (Reply #137)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:05 AM
cstanleytech (5,295 posts)
140. Great? Thats more of a matter of opinion really but lets assume he was one
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Last edited Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:05 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) he is still a piece of shit for cheating on his wife just like Clinton while being a great president (in my opinion atleast) is a piece of shit for cheating on Hillary and Gingrich is a piece of shit for cheating on his varies wives.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
David__77 (14,115 posts)
141. That's a ludicrous reason to resign.
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In fact, if he is otherwise the best person for the job, it is entirely irresponsible and the resignation should be rejected.
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Response to David__77 (Reply #141)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:28 AM
pointsoflight (1,265 posts)
142. The person he had an affair with breeched security and accessed his e-mails.
Response to pointsoflight (Reply #142)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:00 AM
David__77 (14,115 posts)
144. Ah, a different story.
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And I would hope the media are framing it as such.
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Response to David__77 (Reply #144)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:43 PM
Locut0s (1,942 posts)
159. It's the media what do you expect. If there's sex involved NOTHING else matters.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:13 AM
aandegoons (473 posts)
146. Looks like betrayal runs deep in this scum.
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Who would have ever guessed.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:05 AM
ronnie624 (3,692 posts)
152. As for who will replace Petraeus in the longterm,
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a former senior intelligence official told AOL Defense that Mike Vickers is a leading candidate.
"The prevailing wisdom is that Mike Vickers wants this with all his heart and soul," the official told AOL Defense. Vickers, now the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, is the legendary former CIA operative who led the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan chronicled in the book, Charlie Wilson's War. Another candidate is Stephanie O'Sullivan, the principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence. I guess we can look forward to more of the same old shit from the CIA. |
Response to ronnie624 (Reply #152)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:27 PM
glinda (12,075 posts)
155. This would be a great time to clean house over there.
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If even possible....
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Response to glinda (Reply #155)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:20 AM
ronnie624 (3,692 posts)
160. RIP anyone who makes an earnest attempt.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:04 PM
Tutonic (2,470 posts)
156. Hearing that she made threats to "two non-family women"
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Could the General be a Playa?
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Response to Tutonic (Reply #156)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:31 PM
glinda (12,075 posts)

