Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:48 PM
Faygo Kid (20,215 posts)
Warmer still: Extreme climate predictions appear most accurate, report says
Source: Washington Post
Climate scientists agree the Earth will be hotter by the end of the century, but their simulations don’t agree on how much. Now a study suggests the gloomier predictions may be closer to the mark. “Warming is likely to be on the high side of the projections,” said John Fasullo of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., a co-author of the report, which was based on satellite measurements of the atmosphere. That means the world could be in for a devastating increase of about eight degrees Fahrenheit by 2100, resulting in drastically higher seas, disappearing coastlines and more severe droughts, floods and other destructive weather. Such an increase would substantially overshoot what the world’s leaders have identified as the threshold for triggering catastrophic consequences. In 2009, heads of state agreed to try to limit warming to 3.6 degrees, and many countries want a tighter limit. . . Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/warmer-still-extreme-climate-predictions-appear-most-accurate-study-says/2012/11/08/ebd075c6-29c7-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html?hpid=z2 How much more must the alarm be sounded? It's real, and it's here, and it's time to cut the crap. Leaving our kids and grandkids a deficit is nothing compared to this. ![]()
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| Faygo Kid | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| villager | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| freedom fighter jh | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| pscot | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| FirstLight | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| Downwinder | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| adirondacker | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| dreamnightwind | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| Mojorabbit | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| Gabby Hayes | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| bemildred | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| cprise | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| bemildred | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| Uncle Joe | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| adirondacker | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| latebloomer | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| Strelnikov_ | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| antigone382 | Nov 2012 | #17 |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:50 PM
villager (18,981 posts)
1. No one even dares talk about the "climate cliff" we are going over
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...regardless of which party they're in.
How many more super-storms, until it finally "interrupts" business-as-usual? |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:56 PM
freedom fighter jh (886 posts)
2. 350.org is doing a national lecture tour to pull the climate movement together.
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The idea is to press institutions to divest from fossil fuel companies.
The tour started yesterday, the day after Election Day. To find out when they will be near you, go to 350.org and click on Do the Math. Join the movement. Do it for the next generation. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:00 PM
pscot (13,907 posts)
3. Warming is already on the high side of the projections
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So that seems like a safe call. Things tend to keep doing what they're doing until they stop.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:12 PM
FirstLight (8,464 posts)
4. ...i keep saying this
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EVERY model is TOO CONSERVATIVE....it is not surprising that every couple months the scientists come out and say, "by the way, it's happening faster/more/worse that we thought."
and I hate the fact that I am not surprised by this anymore, i hate the fact that I see it as a given. I hate the fact that my kids will grow up in a very different world than ANY of us can imagine ... |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:20 PM
Downwinder (7,122 posts)
5. Bye, bye, Florida.
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:54 PM
adirondacker (113 posts)
6. Be prepared for another federal welfare bailout for the 1% who own the majority of the coastal
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properties.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:22 AM
dreamnightwind (1,457 posts)
7. we need a CCC for the Climate!
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:35 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Climate Conservation Corps, Citizens Climate Corps, whatever...
It could be a jobs program and we could move military spending to it. This is the greatest threat to our security, nothing else comes close. Also, Urge President Obama to Act Aggressively on Science-based Solutions to Global Warming |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:40 AM
Mojorabbit (12,774 posts)
8. This IS the most important issue and I hope we begin to address it. nt
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:58 AM
Gabby Hayes (253 posts)
9. Onward through the smog -- a few ideas
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The search engines are beginning to turn up a lot of ideas. Here's a few.......
World Environmental Organization http://www.world.org/weo/energy Energy.Gov http://energy.gov/science-innovation/energy-sources Clean Cities: Coalition Locations http://www.afdc.energy.gov/cleancities/coalitions/coalition_locations.php Energy Education & Workforce Development http://www1.eere.energy.gov/education/other_jobs.html |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:34 AM
bemildred (67,498 posts)
10. There is a REASON it's called "Catastrophe Theory".
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Look it up, these phase changes happen fast, when they happen, and they are not reversible.
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Response to bemildred (Reply #10)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:48 AM
cprise (5,668 posts)
15. There is also the Precautionary Principle
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...which says that the odds of us causing a catastrophe must be weighted according to the magnitude of what is at stake.
IOW, odds that look acceptable for more mundane risks (like crashing a car while driving) ought to be viewed as unacceptable when the 'thing' being risked by a certain behavior is billions of lives, most species and habitats, or civilization itself. Some things are too precious to gamble even with what may seem like a moderately low level of risk. |
Response to cprise (Reply #15)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:57 AM
bemildred (67,498 posts)
16. Well yeah, but we are way past that.
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It's a big ship, and the ship is already turning, and frantic efforts to turn it back can well make things worse.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:04 PM
Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)
11. Kicked and recommended.
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:04 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Thanks for the thread, Faygo Kid.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:19 PM
adirondacker (113 posts)
12. Nothing to worry about. The companies have it all under control...
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:12 PM
latebloomer (7,071 posts)
13. Yes,this IS the most important issue there is
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And we need to hold Obama's feet to this devastating fire.
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Response to latebloomer (Reply #13)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:39 PM
Strelnikov_ (6,510 posts)
14. . . . and not a word about it during the election cycle just ending n/t
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:52 AM
antigone382 (3,364 posts)
17. We need to specifically target the most anti-climate science radicals in congress.
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And beat them over the head with their backwardness. We need to shame them and shove natural disasters, crop failures, insufferable heat and ocean level rise in their faces. We need to campaign against them constantly with everything we have on this issue. Either they will be replaced or they will change their tunes.
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