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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:48 PM

Warmer still: Extreme climate predictions appear most accurate, report says

Source: Washington Post

Climate scientists agree the Earth will be hotter by the end of the century, but their simulations don’t agree on how much. Now a study suggests the gloomier predictions may be closer to the mark.

“Warming is likely to be on the high side of the projections,” said John Fasullo of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., a co-author of the report, which was based on satellite measurements of the atmosphere.

That means the world could be in for a devastating increase of about eight degrees Fahrenheit by 2100, resulting in drastically higher seas, disappearing coastlines and more severe droughts, floods and other destructive weather.

Such an increase would substantially overshoot what the world’s leaders have identified as the threshold for triggering catastrophic consequences. In 2009, heads of state agreed to try to limit warming to 3.6 degrees, and many countries want a tighter limit. . .

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/warmer-still-extreme-climate-predictions-appear-most-accurate-study-says/2012/11/08/ebd075c6-29c7-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html?hpid=z2



How much more must the alarm be sounded? It's real, and it's here, and it's time to cut the crap. Leaving our kids and grandkids a deficit is nothing compared to this.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:50 PM

1. No one even dares talk about the "climate cliff" we are going over

...regardless of which party they're in.

How many more super-storms, until it finally "interrupts" business-as-usual?

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:56 PM

2. 350.org is doing a national lecture tour to pull the climate movement together.

The idea is to press institutions to divest from fossil fuel companies.

The tour started yesterday, the day after Election Day. To find out when they will be near you, go to 350.org and click on Do the Math.

Join the movement. Do it for the next generation.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:00 PM

3. Warming is already on the high side of the projections

So that seems like a safe call. Things tend to keep doing what they're doing until they stop.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:12 PM

4. ...i keep saying this

EVERY model is TOO CONSERVATIVE....it is not surprising that every couple months the scientists come out and say, "by the way, it's happening faster/more/worse that we thought."

and I hate the fact that I am not surprised by this anymore, i hate the fact that I see it as a given. I hate the fact that my kids will grow up in a very different world than ANY of us can imagine ...

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:20 PM

5. Bye, bye, Florida.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:54 PM

6. Be prepared for another federal welfare bailout for the 1% who own the majority of the coastal

properties.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:22 AM

7. we need a CCC for the Climate!

Climate Conservation Corps, Citizens Climate Corps, whatever...

It could be a jobs program and we could move military spending to it. This is the greatest threat to our security, nothing else comes close.

Also,
Urge President Obama to Act Aggressively on Science-based Solutions to Global Warming

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:40 AM

8. This IS the most important issue and I hope we begin to address it. nt

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:58 AM

9. Onward through the smog -- a few ideas

The search engines are beginning to turn up a lot of ideas. Here's a few.......

World Environmental Organization http://www.world.org/weo/energy

Energy.Gov http://energy.gov/science-innovation/energy-sources

Clean Cities: Coalition Locations http://www.afdc.energy.gov/cleancities/coalitions/coalition_locations.php

Energy Education & Workforce Development http://www1.eere.energy.gov/education/other_jobs.html

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:34 AM

10. There is a REASON it's called "Catastrophe Theory".

Look it up, these phase changes happen fast, when they happen, and they are not reversible.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:48 AM

15. There is also the Precautionary Principle

...which says that the odds of us causing a catastrophe must be weighted according to the magnitude of what is at stake.

IOW, odds that look acceptable for more mundane risks (like crashing a car while driving) ought to be viewed as unacceptable when the 'thing' being risked by a certain behavior is billions of lives, most species and habitats, or civilization itself. Some things are too precious to gamble even with what may seem like a moderately low level of risk.

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Response to cprise (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:57 AM

16. Well yeah, but we are way past that.

It's a big ship, and the ship is already turning, and frantic efforts to turn it back can well make things worse.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:04 PM

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Faygo Kid.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:12 PM

13. Yes,this IS the most important issue there is

And we need to hold Obama's feet to this devastating fire.

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Response to latebloomer (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:39 PM

14. . . . and not a word about it during the election cycle just ending n/t

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:52 AM

17. We need to specifically target the most anti-climate science radicals in congress.

And beat them over the head with their backwardness. We need to shame them and shove natural disasters, crop failures, insufferable heat and ocean level rise in their faces. We need to campaign against them constantly with everything we have on this issue. Either they will be replaced or they will change their tunes.

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