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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:13 AM

Democrats get supermajority in Legislature (California)

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

California Democrats appear to have picked up a supermajority in both houses of the state Legislature Tuesday night, a surprise outcome that gives the party the ability to unilaterally raise taxes and leaves Republicans essentially irrelevant in Sacramento.

Democrats were long expected to gain a two-thirds advantage in the Senate, but Assembly Speaker John Pérez had downplayed expectations that the party could win a supermajority in the lower house. The party's apparent capture of 54 seats in the 80-member Assembly and 27 in the 40-member Senate would mark the first time in nearly 80 years that one party controlled two-thirds of both houses, according to Senate President pro tem Darrell Steinberg.

While several legislative races in swing districts are still close - including an Assembly race in the Central Valley and another in Orange County - both Pérez and Steinberg said Wednesday that they are confident Democrats' slim leads will hold.

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A two-thirds majority would not only hand Democrats strong control of the executive and legislative branches, but give them far more power, including the ability to override vetoes by Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, bypass legislative rules and deadlines and put constitutional reforms before voters.

When combined with the passage of Proposition 30, the governor's budget-balancing tax measure, the results offer lawmakers "a great opportunity to begin a new chapter in California," Steinberg said. He called a supermajority "a tremendous responsibility," and one that is "humbling to have."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Democrats-get-supermajority-in-Legislature-4015861.php



My county not only voted to raise statewide taxes, but voted to raise county taxes.

Californians voting for Democrats and taxes to improve the things we all share.

I think we're turning a corner.

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CreekDog Nov 2012 OP
busterbrown Nov 2012 #1
lalalu Nov 2012 #2
left coaster Nov 2012 #6
lalalu Nov 2012 #8
lunatica Nov 2012 #14
lalalu Nov 2012 #17
Selatius Nov 2012 #3
CreekDog Nov 2012 #4
hunter Nov 2012 #12
Selatius Nov 2012 #16
left coaster Nov 2012 #7
Iliyah Nov 2012 #5
Big_Mike Nov 2012 #18
WillyT Nov 2012 #9
DonRedwood Nov 2012 #10
ROBROX Nov 2012 #11
yurbud Nov 2012 #13
FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #15

Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:32 AM

1. Secession might be in order for us. Any other Blues are welcome as well.And of course the POTUS!



Red States we are sick of your problems and politics. We need to get you off
our backs. Rick Perry, I'm sure you would agree.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM

2. California is a mess.

 

Until they turn that corner it's another state I'll stay away from. I still haven't forgiven them for Reagan.

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Response to lalalu (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:57 AM

6. We'll miss you. Terribly. nt

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Response to left coaster (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:18 AM

8. Funny

 

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Response to lalalu (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:45 PM

14. Well please suit yourself and do stay away!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:08 PM

17. That is definitely going to happen

 

I won't miss you either.

Oh wait, I do have an immediate family member who works with companies in silicon valley. There will be an exception if the person gets sick or has an emergency while visiting. Just a disclaimer.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 AM

3. They need to change Prop 13. Modify it.

The provisions requiring a two-thirds majority in both houses of the state legislature to raise state income or state sales taxes needs to be repealed. California is facing high debt, and it's time to reign that in by giving flexibility back to the legislature to deal with the issue. What good is passing a progressive initiative in California if the legislature can't fund it except to borrow more?

Also, this:

One proposed change to Prop 13 is to recapture the lost tax revenue retroactively at the time of sale by summing the differences between the actual taxes paid each year and the taxes that would have been paid using assessed values calculated from a straight line between the original purchase price and the final sale price over the entire time the home was owned. This amount will be owed in taxes at the time of sale. This allows older homeowners to keep their homes, but recaptures the capital appreciation benefit they received from urban development paid for by tax dollars to which they did not contribute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_13_%281978%29#Proposed_changes

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Response to Selatius (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:02 AM

4. they could even just stop applicability of Prop. 13 to commercial property

and they could slowly phase that in.

it would help and not panic longtime homeowners.

though among homeowners, there is an imbalance between what new owners pay and longtime owners do.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:28 PM

12. I agree.

We have to go after these amorphous property owners who've transfered properties dozens of times since 1978.

Corporations, no matter how they are set up, are not people.

Proposition 13 was sold as a way to keep fixed income grandma from losing her home when property values increased.

But corporate entities have benefited the most because, unlike grandma, they don't get old and pass away.

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Response to hunter (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:30 PM

16. It's a hunch, but I believe the money behind Prop 13, the bulk of it, came from big business.

They simply had a cover picture of grandma to sell it to working class folks to win over their support.

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Response to Selatius (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:01 AM

7. Prop 13 was the beginning of Cali's downfall, and I never got to punch Jarvis in the face for it..

A fact I so regret..


kidding aside.. I'd like to see Prop 13 sh*tcanned altogether..

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:03 AM

5. Well one thing about Dems, we respect democracy

We are not going to go all crazy and start controlling Cali like a dictatorship such as Michigan.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:49 AM

18. I would really like to believe that. However, I don't trust politicians to do the right

or wise thing, just the popular thing.

I firmly believe we are beyond Michigan, and even approaching Greece. We formed a government of checks and balances, but now there is only train leading to whatever a single group of politicians wish. There is no slowing such a train once it begins to move

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:21 AM

9. HUGE K & R !!!


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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:32 AM

10. CreekDog! Thank you for sharing that! I didn't know!

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:32 AM

11. BIG VALLEY NORCAL GUY

 

I remember the day when property taxes were stopped at 1%. I even got a refund check. I hope those elected people change the 2/3 majority to just plane MAJORITY to get thing done. The GOP who are the dodo have an agenda of doing NOTHING but complaining.

It still amazes me that California could be a major economic world power. We have great weather, oil, agriculture, educational institutes, world class people, and a good future. Because we are the LEFT COAST everything positive is discounted. The GOP made sure many of the military bases were closed years ago, but there are a few big military bases and many military members are from California.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:32 PM

13. definitely

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:46 PM

15. DON'T waste it!

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