Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:12 PM

jody (26,624 posts)

Chicago's Cook County drops bullet tax, keeps gun levy

Source: Reuters

"It is very important to us to tax guns because we know that guns are the sources of the incredible violence we have in our neighborhoods," Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle told a news conference. She said 29 percent of guns used in crimes in Chicago were purchased legally in suburban Cook County.

Under the plan, the county would impose a $25 tax on the purchase of firearms. The tax is expected to raise $600,000 in revenue in 2013. Preckwinkle abandoned a proposed tax o f 5 cents a bullet because the tax in some cases would have exceeded the price of ammunition.

If approved by the board, the nation's third most populous county with nearly 5.2 million residents c ould be the first major U.S. metropolitan area to impose a tax as a form of gun control, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/31/usa-guns-chicago-tax-idUSL1E8LVE9W20121031

This is a tax on citizens exercising one of their natural, inherent, unalienable rights.

SCOTUS may decide it's unconstitutional just like a poll tax.

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Chicago's Cook County drops bullet tax, keeps gun levy (Original post)	jody	Oct 2012	OP
If this is unconstitutional, then so are taxes on paper and pens.	NYC Liberal	Oct 2012	#1
And poll taxes? nt	jody	Oct 2012	#2
They had to pass an amendment to ban those.	NYC Liberal	Oct 2012	#9
The 24th Amendment (1964) applied only to federal elections. The OP case is for state rights.	jody	Oct 2012	#10
I never see you put up this much fuss about children going hungry or without health care	CreekDog	Nov 2012	#40
Associational fallacy writ large?	PavePusher	Nov 2012	#43
some can, that poster chooses not to	CreekDog	Nov 2012	#44
Are you his/her next-door neighbor?	PavePusher	Nov 2012	#45
yes	CreekDog	Nov 2012	#61
Well....	PavePusher	Nov 2012	#66
ok, that's appropriate	CreekDog	Nov 2012	#67
Intent...	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#20
We better start putting all of those guns in jail. nt	rDigital	Nov 2012	#75
Clueless	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#12
IMO the case will go to SCOTUS. I'll wait on their decision. nt	jody	Oct 2012	#15
That IS illegal.	sir pball	Oct 2012	#23
Tax Gun Nuts!	onehandle	Oct 2012	#3
Ineffective, tax gun grabbers and use the money to purchase guns for law-abiding citizens who are at	jody	Oct 2012	#7
Works for Me!!!!	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#13
What was it they got Capone on... ?	Gidney N Cloyd	Oct 2012	#4
Bring it on... let the city's legal bills keep on piling up.	-..__...	Oct 2012	#5
and of course	naaman fletcher	Oct 2012	#6
One Should Hope they move in the Process	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#17
Nonsense	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#14
Yeah what's a few hundred thou' Gs to politicians?	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#21
Nothing compared to the NRA spends on a single election cycle.	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#27
...but the NRA doesn't use tax-payers' money.	Eleanors38	Nov 2012	#34
Ok	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#36
Silly is one thing. Obfuscated (as your's is)? Please. Boring.	Eleanors38	Nov 2012	#62
How hypocritical. If Preckwinkle really thought guns were a source of violence, he would be working	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#8
Huh	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#16
I'm not scared of government at all. I'm simply pointing out that people who SAY they want all...	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#19
No	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#26
On "paranoia." You guys project too much, or protest too much	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#22
Preckwinkle is a she, and she's a good fighter for her constituents.	Comrade Grumpy	Nov 2012	#30
She's not taking very good care of her poor constituents who want to buy firearms	slackmaster	Nov 2012	#37
Taxes	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#11
Craven and Weird	fascisthunter	Oct 2012	#18
Hunted down any? Lately?	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#24
yes, with intellect, words	fascisthunter	Oct 2012	#25
More like ignorance and bullshit.	-..__...	Oct 2012	#28
Read the Party Platform	fightthegoodfightnow	Oct 2012	#29
So... by your reasoning, I/myself/others...	-..__...	Nov 2012	#31
No	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#32
So gun control suffers legislative defeat after defeat	hack89	Nov 2012	#39
Your Characterization	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#48
The president has expanded gun rights - he is no threat to my guns.	hack89	Nov 2012	#50
Obama winning inspite of the GOP Saying He Is Going To Take Your Gun	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#51
But not for gun control - it is a spent force in American politics	hack89	Nov 2012	#52
Simply Not True	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#53
How can he win when he refuses to fight?	hack89	Nov 2012	#54
GOP House of Representatives?	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#55
Doesn't stop him from trying. He refuses to even talk about it	hack89	Nov 2012	#56
Refuses to Talk About It?	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#57
All I know is that he is not a threat to my guns - and never will be	hack89	Nov 2012	#58
He Doesn't Refuse to Talk About Guns	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#60
He threw you a bone	hack89	Nov 2012	#63
Bones?	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#64
He actually did something to strengthen the 2A.	hack89	Nov 2012	#65
LOL	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#68
What are you talking about?	hack89	Nov 2012	#70
I Don't	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#74
There will not be an AWB	hack89	Nov 2012	#78
Hack89 thinks the President is Not Honest When He Said in the second debate	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#69
Well, he was misinformed if he thinks criminals are using automatic weapons.	hack89	Nov 2012	#71
Actually	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#73
He doesn't have the more important support - votes in Congress.	hack89	Nov 2012	#77
Which is why the AWB is constantly mentioned by the President in the campaign ... oh wait.	hack89	Nov 2012	#38
Right	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#47
Considering President Obama has expanded gun rights	hack89	Nov 2012	#49
This message was hidden by jury decision.	CSAcitizen	Nov 2012	#33
Nuisance taxes and Sin taxes have been with us for a couple of centuries and have not	byeya	Nov 2012	#35
Why don' t they just collect tax on drug transactions?	Remmah2	Nov 2012	#41
Darn it Remmah2, you are not allowed to use facts to rebut anti-RKBA rants. nt	jody	Nov 2012	#42
What about the Federal Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax (FAET)?	sl8	Nov 2012	#46
It's applied uniformly. The federal government does have the power to regulate interstate commerce.	slackmaster	Nov 2012	#59
I think it should be.	PavePusher	Nov 2012	#72
Why don't they just tax newspaper ink, paper, computers and electrons. Same deal, right? nt	rDigital	Nov 2012	#76

Response to jody (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:16 PM

NYC Liberal (15,618 posts)

Chicago's Cook County drops bullet tax, keeps gun levy

1. If this is unconstitutional, then so are taxes on paper and pens.

2. And poll taxes? nt

9. They had to pass an amendment to ban those.

10. The 24th Amendment (1964) applied only to federal elections. The OP case is for state rights.

40. I never see you put up this much fuss about children going hungry or without health care

43. Associational fallacy writ large?

44. some can, that poster chooses not to

45. Are you his/her next-door neighbor?

61. yes

66. Well....

67. ok, that's appropriate

20. Intent...

75. We better start putting all of those guns in jail. nt

12. Clueless

15. IMO the case will go to SCOTUS. I'll wait on their decision. nt

23. That IS illegal.

3. Tax Gun Nuts!

7. Ineffective, tax gun grabbers and use the money to purchase guns for law-abiding citizens who are at

13. Works for Me!!!!

4. What was it they got Capone on... ?

5. Bring it on... let the city's legal bills keep on piling up.

6. and of course

17. One Should Hope they move in the Process

14. Nonsense

21. Yeah what's a few hundred thou' Gs to politicians?

27. Nothing compared to the NRA spends on a single election cycle.

34. ...but the NRA doesn't use tax-payers' money.

36. Ok

62. Silly is one thing. Obfuscated (as your's is)? Please. Boring.

8. How hypocritical. If Preckwinkle really thought guns were a source of violence, he would be working

16. Huh

19. I'm not scared of government at all. I'm simply pointing out that people who SAY they want all...

26. No

22. On "paranoia." You guys project too much, or protest too much

30. Preckwinkle is a she, and she's a good fighter for her constituents.

37. She's not taking very good care of her poor constituents who want to buy firearms

11. Taxes

18. Craven and Weird

24. Hunted down any? Lately?

25. yes, with intellect, words

28. More like ignorance and bullshit.

29. Read the Party Platform

31. So... by your reasoning, I/myself/others...

32. No

39. So gun control suffers legislative defeat after defeat

48. Your Characterization

50. The president has expanded gun rights - he is no threat to my guns.

51. Obama winning inspite of the GOP Saying He Is Going To Take Your Gun

52. But not for gun control - it is a spent force in American politics

53. Simply Not True

54. How can he win when he refuses to fight?

55. GOP House of Representatives?

56. Doesn't stop him from trying. He refuses to even talk about it

57. Refuses to Talk About It?

58. All I know is that he is not a threat to my guns - and never will be

60. He Doesn't Refuse to Talk About Guns

63. He threw you a bone

64. Bones?

65. He actually did something to strengthen the 2A.

68. LOL

70. What are you talking about?

74. I Don't

78. There will not be an AWB

69. Hack89 thinks the President is Not Honest When He Said in the second debate

71. Well, he was misinformed if he thinks criminals are using automatic weapons.

73. Actually

77. He doesn't have the more important support - votes in Congress.

38. Which is why the AWB is constantly mentioned by the President in the campaign ... oh wait.

47. Right

49. Considering President Obama has expanded gun rights

35. Nuisance taxes and Sin taxes have been with us for a couple of centuries and have not

41. Why don' t they just collect tax on drug transactions?

42. Darn it Remmah2, you are not allowed to use facts to rebut anti-RKBA rants. nt

46. What about the Federal Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax (FAET)?

59. It's applied uniformly. The federal government does have the power to regulate interstate commerce.

72. I think it should be.

76. Why don't they just tax newspaper ink, paper, computers and electrons. Same deal, right? nt