Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:20 AM
jeffreyi (204 posts)
Massive Hurricane Sandy building a huge and destructive storm surge
Source: Weather Underground (Dr. Jeff Masters' Wunderblog)
Massive and dangerous Hurricane Sandy has grown to record size as it barrels northeastwards along the North Carolina coast at 10 mph. At 8 am EDT, Sandy's tropical storm-force winds extended northeastwards 520 miles from the center, and twelve-foot high seas covered a diameter of ocean 1,030 miles across. Since records of storm size began in 1988, no tropical storm or hurricane has been larger (though Hurricane Olga of 2001 had a larger 690 mile radius of tropical storm-force winds when it was a subtropical storm near Bermuda.) Sandy has put an colossal volume of ocean water in motion with its widespread and powerful winds, and the hurricane's massive storm surge is already impacting the coast. A 2' storm surge has been recorded at numerous locations this morning from Virginia to Connecticut, including a 3' surge at Virginia's Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel and Sewells Point at 9 am EDT. Huge, 10 - 15 foot-high battering waves on top of the storm surge have washed over Highway 12 connecting North Carolina's Outer Banks to the mainland at South Nags Head this morning. The highway is now impassable, and has been closed. The coast guard station on Cape Hatteras, NC, recorded sustained winds of 50 mph, gusting to 61 mph, at 5:53 am EDT this morning. In Delaware, the coastal highway Route 1 between Dewey Beach and Bethany Beach has been closed due to high water. Even though Sandy is a minimal Category 1 hurricane, its storm surge is extremely dangerous, and if you are in a low-lying area that is asked to evacuate, I strongly recommend that you leave. Read more: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2278 More details and graphics at the link.
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17 replies, 3563 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| jeffreyi | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| xtraxritical | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| bluedigger | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| Ghost Dog | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| kentauros | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| snot | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| Auggie | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| Harry Monroe | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| Strelnikov_ | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| snagglepuss | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| Strelnikov_ | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| lovuian | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| aquart | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| HooptieWagon | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| Strelnikov_ | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| adirondacker | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| Princess Turandot | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| bucolic_frolic | Oct 2012 | #13 |
Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:38 AM
xtraxritical (2,968 posts)
1. Our President Obama has suspened campaigning and is back in the Whitehouse monitoring the situation.
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He is readying FEMA for quick response and is doing everything a "real" president is supposed to do to protect the American people. What a change from the last administration. OBAMA/BIDEN/CONGRESS 2012 - FORWARD
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Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:54 AM
bluedigger (10,578 posts)
2. "50% chance that Sandy's storm surge will end up flooding a portion of the New York City subway"
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The storm surge section is pretty frightening. "$55 billion" in damages to NYC alone?
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Response to bluedigger (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:32 PM
Ghost Dog (12,960 posts)
6. It'll be a 12ft surge at NYC, from the latest I'm seeing,
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Last edited Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) so make that chance 100%.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/151337.shtml?gm_esurge#contents |
Response to bluedigger (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:35 PM
kentauros (21,752 posts)
15. The "$55 billion" number
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was just for the subway system. I suspect that number would be much higher with everything else that may get damaged. This will also be saltwater, so plants like trees and shrubs will suffer (or die) from having the ground soaked in salt.
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Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:05 PM
snot (8,035 posts)
3. Great link, thanks!
Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:18 PM
Auggie (16,185 posts)
4. Brighton Beach / Battery Park under evacuation orders ....
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NYC transit system will be shut down tonight ... 20 ft waves forecast for Lake Erie ... wow!
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Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:19 PM
Harry Monroe (2,859 posts)
5. One of my best friends lives in Hicksville, Long Island
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He's headed to Jacksonville, FL tonight on business, but his wife is deciding to stay put. Tried to talk him out of it, but he says because they're in the middle of Long Island, they'll be on high ground. I don't want to preach to him, but he and his wife haven't really experienced hurricanes (I live on the Gulf Coast, so I've got some experience with these things). I'm just afraid she'll end up being cut off and isolated because the storm surge will approach from both LI Sound and the Atlantic. Wish I could talk more sense into them, but don't want to preach to them too much about the dangers, lest I alienate them.
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Response to Harry Monroe (Reply #5)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:51 PM
Strelnikov_ (6,510 posts)
8. She better have about 2 weeks worth of food and drinking water.
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Looks like a large region will be without power. |
Response to Harry Monroe (Reply #5)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:02 PM
snagglepuss (9,103 posts)
16. I understand your concern. Please let us know how she fares.
Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:48 PM
Strelnikov_ (6,510 posts)
7. Startin' to look bad for NYC
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About 40 hr. to zero hour, maintaining or getting stronger.
Forecast track appears to be about worst case for NYC surge. |
Response to Strelnikov_ (Reply #7)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:54 PM
lovuian (18,363 posts)
9. Is Bloomberg going to evacuate some people?
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Any news I heard a possible 375,000
any news on that front |
Response to lovuian (Reply #9)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 04:32 PM
aquart (67,535 posts)
14. Yes. Zone A has mandatory evacuation. Subway shuts at 7pm.
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They're moving the trains to higher ground.
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Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:28 PM
HooptieWagon (6,326 posts)
10. The size of the storm influences storm surge as much as the strength.
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Don't be fooled by Sandy's minimal wind-strength status. This storm is huge, and will have the storm surge of a much more powerful storm. Coastal areas are going to get a real battering.
Also, there will be much inland flash floods and power outages... these are somewhat unpredictable and random. Everyone should be prepared. |
Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:43 PM
Strelnikov_ (6,510 posts)
11. Startin' to look like an extratropical Ike n/t
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Last edited Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:43 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) |
Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:20 PM
adirondacker (113 posts)
17. There is a bit of talk within the scientific community about replacing the Saffir-Simpson Scale
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As you pointed out, the wind speed is just part of the equation. The size and tides have as much to do about the potential devastation. They really need to change this since most folks look at tropical storms and Cat 1's as just another excessive windy day.
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Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:55 PM
Princess Turandot (2,169 posts)
12. NYC Flood/Evacuation Map
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Zone A was ordered to evacuate by 7PM by the mayor. (They did that for Hurricane Irene last year as well.)
http://gis.nyc.gov/oem/he/map.htm |
Response to jeffreyi (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:15 PM
bucolic_frolic (708 posts)
13. All those Republican Luxury Super Oceanfront Mansions
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along the New Jersey shore will meet
the superstorm consequences of Global Warming Denial What a fracking shame! |

