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Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:25 PM

AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks.

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Source: Associated Press

FILE - In this Oct. 25, 2012 file photo, President Barack Obama speaks to supporters at a campaign event at Cleveland Burke Lakefront Airport, in Cleveland Ohio. Racial attitudes have not improved in the four years since the United States elected its first black president, an Associated Press poll finds, as a slight majority of Americans now express prejudice toward blacks whether they recognize those feelings or not. Those views could cost Obama votes as he tries for re-election, the survey found, though the effects are mitigated by some Americans' more favorable views of blacks. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

<snip>In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

<snip>The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans. Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent).

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/176075591.html?c=r



Now for my opinion:
You 32% of the assholes that call yourselves Democrats that are racists ...go fuck yourselves. I can't wait for you all to die off. You should know better. You should know what America is about. You should know what the Bill of Rights is all about. Obviously 32% of you are just as much of an asshole as the 79% of repukes who are also racists. WTF Don't you know this country has always been a mixing pot of races. So are you against that? If so then you are at the core anti-American. It's no wonder you attack liberals who stand for womens rights and equal rights. When someone attacks liberals I will now call them racists and or misogynists. I don't know how you could be against womens rights and not be a racist. The two seem to go together. I hope you are with me on this when I say that it's long past the time that we have an national open discussion about race in this country. IMO it's time to declare the KKK a terrorist group and throw them all in prison. It's time to do what we can to make any racist totally uncomfortable and unwelcome in our communities and in this country. Normally I would not say this because it would be too much like the ignorant racist assholes but if you are a racist ...you should GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY! Even if I had no reason to vote for Obama I would just to piss off you asshole racists. You fucking make me sick. If Obama loses this election it will be because of these un-American, un-Democratic, anti-equal rights racist assholes. I might understand somewhat why 79% of repukes are racists ...they are morans ...and I almost pity them ....NOT! You asshole repukes who make the claim to be so fucking patriotic are empty shells of human waste and are about as unpatriotic and it gets ...but then you are too stupid to know that. Last thing ...you 32% racist Democrats ...are you going to vote for Obama? If not then get the fuck out of my party. I'd rather be in a minority than to stand with the likes of you. Your an embarrassment to the dignity, intellect and self respect of Democrats. The repukes have an excuse because they are pathetic humans but you Democrats have no excuse. You of all Americans should know better.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:34 PM

1. A majority of Americans?

Or is it a majority of White Americans?

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Response to NOLALady (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:37 PM

2. Majority of those "polled". No stats on the racial diversity of that poll...

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:48 PM

5. It is all right there in the pdf

http://surveys.ap.org/data/GfK/AP_Racial_Attitudes_Topline_09182012.pdf

Check page 33. You may want to take back what appears to be your assumption that it is just a problem with older people.

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Response to NOLALady (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:49 PM

6. data is available here -

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:47 PM

3. Do you really trust the Associated Press?


I don't. Like most things in America it's controlled by middle-aged white men. Don't you find the timing of this a bit strange? There are a few of these polls that are making their way around the web. What they are in fact is a ploy. I would go further and call it a racist ploy. What they are doing is reminding white people to vote for their racist insecurities. There is one that is essentially telling white people everybody is against you. Folks. this is typical Mainstream Media racism. Please don't fall for it.

Please contact the AP and give them a piece of your mind.

Call AP headquarters at 212.621.1500 or email info@ap.org for general inquiries.

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Response to dawn frenzy adams (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:55 PM

8. I'm black and I believe that race will cost Obama some votes this year just like 2008.

Let's face facts here, if Obama was a white democrat he would've won by even more in 2008. He probably could've picked up Georgia, Missouri, and West Virginia. If he were white this race wouldn't even be this close because A white democrat with Obama's record would be kicking Romney's ass in the popular vote. This president got us health insurance reform and killed bin laden. He's also improved the economy. What other reasons besides race would allow this race to be this close?

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Response to craigmatic (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:23 PM

10. Hopefully it will be offset by whites that become more comfortable with a black President.

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Response to craigmatic (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:45 PM

12. I'm thinking it will also be offset by early voting

Freeing up more resources on Election Day.

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Response to dawn frenzy adams (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:17 PM

9. The timing is kind of strange, and 2 other things I find interesting (and wonder about):

1. A majority of 51%? That's strange, being that it's only 1% more than the other half of the country, supposedly. That's all that's needed in an election to be a tie-breaker. Hmmm...

2. I have trouble believing that "Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent)." I could be accused of being in denial, but this seems like a "they do it too" kind of opportunity for some people to claim they are democrats when they are not...ANYMORE. I thought all those "Southern Democrats" back in the eighties had switched over to the GOP already...permanently!

I'm not as sure about whether these polls are designed to remind people of their prejudice, or to serve as some kind of cover for stealing an election. Maybe not, but with all these so-called mainstream media polls being conducted that consistently have it almost at 50-50 every day, I can't help being skeptical.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:47 PM

4. I could believe this article is true. Racism is very subtle now and most of us wouldn't recognize it

if we saw it up close. I could give you two examples in popular movies that just came out in the past 2 years. Just look at the blind side and the help. In the blind side with the exception of the main black character every black person in that movie is depicted as a bad person. The help is more self explanatory with the ending scene of the black lady walking down the street and really worse off after the book is written plus it makes it seem like the black maids actually like the white families they worked for when it probably wasn't the case historically. That's just hollywood but these movies won awards and more are being made. So yeah there's still racism in the movies so you know in real life it has to be worse and more subtle.

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Response to craigmatic (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:56 PM

13. Subtle?

 

Really, you're defending racists by saying they're not obvious?

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:51 PM

7. I realized, forty years ago, I was racist. I tried to change. Honest.


Please give me and others credit for trying.

I came from a small town in a rural area.
I don't think we had any black kids in our school.
I don't think we had any Asian kids either.

Your post turns me off. I trust that's not your intention.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:44 PM

11. I have so many issues with this survey

Too much doesn't say a damn thing.

It doesn't specify the breakdown of racial conflict by area. There are limited responses provided for some questions.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:58 PM

14. Purpose of Poll: Hurt Obama

I think the purpose of the poll is to get people arguing about race, which would then take some votes from Obama.

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Response to L0oniX (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:21 PM

15. Locking - duplicate thread

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