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Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:55 AM

 

Nicholas Mockford, ExxonMobil Executive, Shot And Killed In Belgium

Source: Associated Press

A British oil executive gunned down in front of his wife in the Belgian capital of Brussels. Helmeted assailants escaping on a motorcycle. No arrests. A driver of a white van who has not been found. A court order for police not to reveal the details.

Was the killing of Nicholas Mockford, a 60-year-old executive for ExxonMobil, the world's largest oil company, a car-jacking gone wrong? A muffed purse-snatching? Or was it a cold-blooded professional hit for reasons yet unknown?

Mockford, a British national living in Belgium, was shot dead on Oct. 14 as he left an Italian restaurant in Neder-over-Heembeek a village in medieval days that has since been swallowed up by the expanding capital. He died in the street as his wife cradled him in her arms and a neighbor tried to resuscitate him.

In the beginning, the investigating judge imposed an order on police preventing them from releasing any detail on the case, which police said was not unusual in a serious murder case. As a result, initial news reports were sparse. But on Thursday, authorities switched course and decided to enlist the public's help, releasing a brief description of the crime.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/nicholas-mockford-exxonmobil-executive-killed-belgium_n_2021845.html?utm_hp_ref=business



Looks like a botched robbery that went bad.

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Reply Nicholas Mockford, ExxonMobil Executive, Shot And Killed In Belgium (Original post)
Jumping John Oct 2012 OP
Drale Oct 2012 #1
Javaman Oct 2012 #13
Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #18
naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #33
jsr Oct 2012 #2
Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #5
toby jo Oct 2012 #9
The Stranger Oct 2012 #10
Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #12
The Stranger Oct 2012 #42
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #14
Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #16
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #20
Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #22
lsewpershad Oct 2012 #27
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #37
lsewpershad Oct 2012 #26
Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #19
Kelvin Mace Oct 2012 #23
The Stranger Oct 2012 #43
jsr Oct 2012 #24
Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #30
jsr Oct 2012 #31
ChillZilla Oct 2012 #34
jsr Oct 2012 #38
ChillZilla Oct 2012 #46
LanternWaste Oct 2012 #45
NV Whino Oct 2012 #3
Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #4
L0oniX Oct 2012 #6
valerief Oct 2012 #7
Solly Mack Oct 2012 #8
triplepoint Oct 2012 #11
firehorse Oct 2012 #15
raccoon Oct 2012 #32
QUALITYCONTRoll Oct 2012 #17
musiclawyer Oct 2012 #21
WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #25
ChillZilla Oct 2012 #35
The Straight Story Oct 2012 #28
GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #29
daleo Oct 2012 #36
Peace Patriot Oct 2012 #39
cali Oct 2012 #40
ChazII Oct 2012 #44
byeya Oct 2012 #41

Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:03 PM

1. It would not surprise me if it was a hit

He's part of a company that hurts billions of people by artificially raising oil prices even when they are making record profits. He's hurt alot of people and the more you push someone the sooner they are going to snap.

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Response to Drale (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:01 PM

13. That was exactly my first thought. nt

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Response to Drale (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:07 PM

18. if this was a "hit", then it certainly would have come from

a fellow exec, corporate rival or someone who stands to profit from his death...

the telegraph is saying he was in charge of developing green fuel alternatives...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20101979

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/9635407/Police-hunt-two-men-after-oil-chief-assassinated-in-Brussels-street.html

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Response to Drale (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:26 PM

33. Sounds like a hit, but probably not Exxon related

 

If Exxon related, why him? He works in the chemicals division in europe.

It's much more likely that he owed someone money, or farked someones wife, or screwed someone over somehow.

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:05 PM

2. I always mourn for high-ranking oil company executives

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Response to jsr (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:13 PM

5. No man is an island

Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.


I mourn for his wife who cradled him as he died, and I try to fathom the emotional agony that would entail.

Let us not become emotionally hardened to any person's death, for if we do, we are lost.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:38 PM

9. +1

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:42 PM

10. Too late.

We are lost.

But the emotional hardening may lead us to something better.

Some day.

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Response to The Stranger (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:54 PM

12. i can't see how becoming insensitive to the suffering of others

will make us better.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:54 AM

42. Some have suffered so much more than others.

And some have remained indifferent or -- worse -- have profited on the suffering of others.

Someone somewhere referred to it as the struggle.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:02 PM

14. The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions of men (Iraq and

 

Afghanistan) a statistic.

~ variously attributed to Joseph Stalin

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:05 PM

16. To me, it is all a tragedy

That we spend so much on death and destruction is even more tragic.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:11 PM

20. I find myself strangely drawn to Stalin's (admittedly very black)

 

sense of humor.

If you're an executive for Exxon Mobil, you're part of a market structure that at least indirectly caused the deaths and wounds of many countless 1,000s of people. So I'm not going to mourn much the death of any of those executives. I'll save my mourning reserves for the victims of the Abu Ghraib and Bagram black holes.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:41 PM

22. You are proposing that one cannot do both?

Also, if I am to write off this man's life because he is an oil executive and thus complicit in the death of others, cannot others write off my death as warranted since I am an American, and thus complicit in the death of others?

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:40 PM

27. Food for thought...

Isn't it??

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:31 PM

37. Yes, unfortunately every American bears a huge karmic debt to the rest of the

 

planet. The souls of 2-3 million Southeast Asians still await our abject apologies for the shit we pulled in Vietnam 1954-74.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:31 PM

26. Justice?????

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Response to jsr (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:10 PM

19. Yeah. Gunned down in front of his wife. Yay. (Sarcasm)

I'm no fan of the petroleum industry, either, but jesus fucking christ. That's a human being.

And if you use electricity, or drive a car, you're using this man's product. Celebrating the death of an oil industry executive while enjoying the benefits of technology which require an oil industy and, by extension, oil industry executives, is the height of hypocrisy.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:46 PM

23. Yeah, seems a bit short-sighted

and glib.

Once we start writing off entire classes of individuals based on who they work for, where do we draw the line?

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:55 AM

43. Exactly.

Where do we draw the line?

Probably not here.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:57 PM

24. Who 'celebrated' his death?

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Response to jsr (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:19 PM

30. C'mon.

You know exactly what you were saying, up there.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:31 PM

31. I don't care about oil company executives.

No further extrapolation.

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Response to jsr (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:13 PM

34. It's nice to see such disregard for human life

 

based on one's employment. I know a few ExxonMobil executives, it's nice to hear their lives are so worthless because they've been successful in their chosen field.

I don't know what brand of Liberalism you subscribe to, but please leave me out of it.

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Response to ChillZilla (Reply #34)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:16 AM

38. Reading comprehension FAIL

Where does it say I have disregard for human life?

"I know a few ExxonMobil executives"?

Good for you. Have a nice life.

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Response to jsr (Reply #38)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:00 PM

46. A guy got murdered

 

and you said "I don't care about Oil Company Executives"

I thought it was pretty clear. Last I checked, they're human.

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Response to jsr (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 03:13 PM

45. Twain wrote that what we disregard often illustrates our character more so than what we do regard

Twain wrote that what we disregard often illustrates our character more so than what we do regard.

No further extrapolation...

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:07 PM

3. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a hit, but

I bet the other execs are shaking in their collective boots.

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:10 PM

4. Is it starting??

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:31 PM

6. Paybacks are hell ...the rich will be creating more jobs ....security jobs.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:36 PM

7. Maybe!!!! nt

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:36 PM

8. Sounds like a hit.

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:02 PM

15. I'm more surprised this doesn't happen all the time...

Corporate power is taking over the world and diminishing the power of regular people. I remember in the 70's and 80's executives would get kidnapped and held for ransom in places like Italy and Mexico. Anywhere there is a big wealth disparity things like this will happen.

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Response to firehorse (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:06 PM

32. Watch the movie "Manda Bala." nt

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:06 PM

17. The great Equalizer............

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:24 PM

21. I am suprised this does not happen more often

There are righty nuts and then there are some on the other side who go nuts from desperation. Who knows why this happened. But if I was a plutocrat who made a living economically harming people, I would have full time security shadowing me. Just saying

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:02 PM

25. A motorcycle *and* a van?

Failed kidnapping.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:14 PM

35. Could be

 

An ExxonMobil was kidnapped and murdered about 15 years ago. Although I didn't think Belgium was know for that sort of tactic. In South America bodyguards would be mandatory.

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:42 PM

28. What is interesting is that it took 12 days to get to the news (nt)

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:04 PM

29. Mockford, a British national living in Belgium, was shot dead on Oct. 14

It's Oct 26 where I live.

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:30 PM

36. If it is terrorism

Will predator drones be flying through the skies of Europe, taking out people, as they do now in other parts of the world?

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 12:52 PM

39. Botched kidnapping seems unlikely. Seems like botched robbery, but...

...who knows? The attempt to grab his wife's purse (that apparently started the incident) could have been designed to misdirect police, if it was an assassination.

The article says that the assailants, after trying to grab her purse, shot Mockford FOUR times. That seems excessive for a mere street robbery with panicked (stupid or addled) robbers. Points to: making sure he was dead.

The white van may well have been a coincidence. The van crossed the Mockfords' path as they went to their car. May have been unrelated. Police are asking the van drivers to come forward. If unrelated, then they have two guys on foot, perpetrating this crime, and running to a motorcycle to escape afterwards. Did they get her purse? Article doesn't say. Did they get his wallet after shooting him? Unknown. If the object was robbery, and he resisted (defending his wife) and they shot him, what did they gain? The article is not enlightening.

In either case--botched kidnapping, or botched robbery--why shoot him? Very foolish kidnappers. Very foolish robbers. Kidnappers: You're not going to collect a ransom on a dead body. Robbers: Foiled or not, why escalate your crime? The police will double-down on a murder, especially such a high profile murder. If it was robbery, this indicates rank amateurs or first-time criminals (or maybe crazy or drug-addled criminals).

Anything can go wrong during the course of such a crime--including panicked criminals--whatever the motive. Considering who he was, I hope that the police are considering a sophisticated assassination that was designed to look like a street crime. I'd sure like to know if they got away with her purse or his wallet. It wouldn't be definitive (even sophisticated assassins or their operatives could have forgotten to complete the false narrative by making off with purse or wallet or jewelry) but it would help in understanding the crime.

On current information, kidnapping seems very unlikely. Robbery seems most likely (robbery by stupid, amateur and/or addled robbers). And sophisticated assassination is a possibility, considering who he was. On the latter, possible motives range very wide, and include personal motives (business or private).

Not enough known. And I would certainly not buy into an Associated Pukes narrative (or any of its details or quotes) until there are some independent, non-corporate sources on this crime. I've learned not to trust AP--and I'm so distrustful that I've given them that insulting new name. They are major disinformationists for the transglobal corporations and war profiteers who rule over us.

As for Mockford being an Exxon Mobil exec, I've learned, during my life, that there can be very good people caught up in very bad corporations and other entities. Life's circumstances don't always allow people to make an innocent living, and there can be a huge spectrum of knowledge, blindness and personal growth, in any individual case of anybody working in a corporation or other entity that is doing ill. Mockford, for all we know, was a whistleblower and was targeted by his own corporation. Don't judge people on their employment or other labels. And don't believe everything you read (or see on TV).

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:14 PM

40. Yeah,let's execute all oil company executives. Fuck, let's torture the hell out of them first

some of the responses in this thread make me ill.

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Response to cali (Reply #40)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:21 AM

44. Agree 100%

One of the few times I have been ashamed of DU.

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Response to Jumping John (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:45 PM

41. Tough one to solve with billions of suspects

 

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