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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:51 AM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

Colin Powell Endorses Obama, Will ‘Stick With Him in 2012’

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Source: Talking Points Memo

Colin Powell Endorses Obama, Will ‘Stick With Him In 2012’

PEMA LEVY 7:44 AM EDT, THURSDAY OCTOBER 25, 2012

Colin Powell, former secretary of state under President George W. Bush, endorsed President Obama for re-election in 2012, saying that he supported him in 2008 and will "stick with" Obama in 2012. Powell made the announcement in an appearance on "CBS This Morning" Thursday.

"I voted for him in 2008 and I plan to stick with him in 2012," Powell said.

Powell cited several reasons for the endorsement, namely the economy and foreign policy. On the economy, Powell said Obama has turned things around from the crisis in 2008, saying "I think generally we've come out of the dive and starting to gain altitude." Powell said Romney's solution to the economy is "essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things," adding that the compensation doesn't cover all the cuts.

On foreign policy, Powell called Romney a "moving target," saying things in Monday night's foreign policy debate that contradicted his previous positions on issues like when to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Conversely, Powell said he approved of Obama's move to get us out of those countries and said his counter-terrorism efforts have been "very, very solid."


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Reply Colin Powell Endorses Obama, Will ‘Stick With Him in 2012’ (Original post)
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 OP
LineReply Powell endorsing Obama is the Single biggest endorsement there is. Major. Major. Major.
 graham4anything Oct 2012 #1
LineLineReply Give me a break. He ain't a fucking " good general."
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 #3
LineLineLineReply who cares about that crap now? talk like that hurts Obama.
 graham4anything Oct 2012 #9
LineLineLineLineReply Disgusting.
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 #10
LineLineLineLineReply I CARE ABOUT "THAT CRAP"! Always have- always will.
 stlsaxman Oct 2012 #36
LineLineLineLineReply Indeed
 Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #39
LineLineLineLineLineReply Colin Powell was being faithful to his Commander in Cheif at the UN, he did his "duty".
 xtraxritical Oct 2012 #40
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply "Duty" does not include lying and helping start a war
 nichomachus Oct 2012 #42
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply He was the Secretary of State
 dflprincess Oct 2012 #56
LineLineLineLineLineReply "At this time..."
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 #46
LineLineLineReply This message was self-deleted by its author
 longship Oct 2012 #12
LineLineLineLineReply "More Reasonable People"
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 #15
LineLineLineLineLineReply You have to call it like you see it.
 randome Oct 2012 #19
LineLineLineLineLineReply My point is...
 longship Oct 2012 #26
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply And I apologize to you, too, for.....
 12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2012 #37
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply Fair enough.
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 #38
LineLineReply I agree.
 rainlillie Oct 2012 #7
LineLineReply It is a good thing. Powell will be paying penance for the rest of his life.
 onehandle Oct 2012 #23
LineReply Still a war criminal, but...
 Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2012 #2
LineReply Colin Powell
 John2 Oct 2012 #4
LineLineReply No - too many skeletons in his closet from the Bush days; Sen. Kerry would be better
 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #11
LineLineReply President Clinton offered Powell a cabinet position and declined.
 Kolesar Oct 2012 #13
LineReply good to hear
 Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #5
LineReply I welcome the endorsement, if he 'd endorsed Romney that would have hurt Obama...
 rainlillie Oct 2012 #6
LineLineReply I agree rainlillie....
 skeewee08 Oct 2012 #8
LineReply Have been waiting for this!
 cilla4progress Oct 2012 #14
LineReply The enemy of my enemy is my friend
 jsr Oct 2012 #16
LineReply Fuck that guy.
 Robb Oct 2012 #17
LineLineNew Reply Touche
 Carolina Oct 2012 #52
LineLineNew Reply Perhaps, but . . .
 Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #55
LineLineNew Reply Agreed, I'll never forget this appearance
 mountain grammy Oct 2012 #57
LineReply Cue Rush to say something racist again...
 AleksS Oct 2012 #18
LineLineNew Reply John Sununu did it for him. "Colin only endorsed Obama because both are black."
 Suji to Seoul Oct 2012 #58
LineReply This will have positive impact and might be the final nail in the Romney coffin.
 DCBob Oct 2012 #20
LineReply This is pretty big - not huge but it matters.
 yellowcanine Oct 2012 #21
LineReply Thanks Colin. nt
 bemildred Oct 2012 #22
LineReply This veteran...
 LP2K12 Oct 2012 #24
LineReply The differences between Powell and Rice in post Bush Cabal years are vast and sickening. nt
 onehandle Oct 2012 #25
LineLineReply YUP!
 graham4anything Oct 2012 #28
LineReply I'm reminded of that song Neil Young wrote in Bush's second term
 Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #27
LineReply This is good news
 amuse bouche Oct 2012 #29
LineReply I am happy to hear this. Thank you, Mr. Powell.
 TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #30
LineReply Video - Plus Transcript for Us Whose World Is Silent
 66 dmhlt Oct 2012 #31
LineLineReply Thanks!
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 #48
LineReply I was beginning to wonder if he might not endorse Obama again
 davidpdx Oct 2012 #32
LineReply Snicker
 Solly Mack Oct 2012 #33
LineReply at least it is one more vote for obama not matter what his past failings which he can not fix - we
 2Design Oct 2012 #34
LineReply hope it helps the Obama campain, but personally- i couldn't give a...
 stlsaxman Oct 2012 #35
LineReply RW heads are exploding all over the internet over this.
 AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #41
LineReply He always seems to do this shit at the last minute. I think he waits to see who's going to win then
 craigmatic Oct 2012 #43
LineReply So my friends, tell me, does Obama have a chance?
 sebastianj333 Oct 2012 #44
LineLineReply I early-voted for Obama, of course.
 Hissyspit Oct 2012 #47
LineReply K & R
 Scurrilous Oct 2012 #45
LineNew Reply Freakrepublic's head explodes over Powell's endorsement
 JackBoik Oct 2012 #49
LineNew Reply cue the repugs playing the race card in 3...2...1...
 tjwash Oct 2012 #50
LineNew Reply Good! Not a Powell fan but he's well regarded by many people.
 Politicub Oct 2012 #51
LineNew Reply I say get what you can from him.
 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #53
LineNew Reply Romney doesn't have any military street cred, that's why!
 Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #54

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:55 AM

Star Member graham4anything (9,174 posts)

1. Powell endorsing Obama is the Single biggest endorsement there is. Major. Major. Major.

Bravo General Powell.

I knew a good general would never cut and run.

Nothing is bigger than this endorsement.

85% of the other side respects him, and most(80% IMHO) of our side respects him.

(there are always debbie downers/ sad sams on each side and whiners who never look at the big picture and the prize)

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:00 AM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

3. Give me a break. He ain't a fucking " good general."

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He's a war criminal enabler, at the least. Helped whitewash My Lai.

From a practical standpoint, I'm glad he made this endorsement. You are correct that it is helpful in keeping Romney out of the White House. My parents knew him when I was a teenager and I had passing acquaintance with him. Despite that, his pre-Iraq war UN performance was a disgusting event and I have no respect for him.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:11 AM

Star Member graham4anything (9,174 posts)

9. who cares about that crap now? talk like that hurts Obama.

it is the same as stupid democrats tossing LBJ into the river when he would have beaten Nixon in a down and dirty fight both before RFK died and after.

when LBJ was the single most progressive President outside of FDR ever.

so there are bad points in history.

colin is a major endorsement, and all I care about is the reelection of Obama.
the rest is bull at this time.

it just don't matter.
(and any public comment read by the rightwing, who does read these sites, gives them comfort and all that helps is to bring this endorsement down, instead of helping Obama, hurting him.

Loose lips sink ships.
even if you are correct and even if i were to agree with you, never let the opposition know it at this time

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:21 AM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

10. Disgusting.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:05 AM

Star Member stlsaxman (9,001 posts)

36. I CARE ABOUT "THAT CRAP"! Always have- always will.

it matters an awful lot. it's called credibility.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:15 AM

Star Member Sherman A1 (11,539 posts)

39. Indeed

Powell's endorsement is not so important from the progressive side as it is from the conservative and undecided point of view. He like everyone else in this world has flaws. I suspect he would be the first to acknowledge that point and he has publicly stated that the testimony before the UN was one of the worst things that he ever did. Yet, his words carry weight in the Republican Party and therefore while there are those who do not care for the General, his endorsement is important.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:29 AM

Star Member xtraxritical (2,957 posts)

40. Colin Powell was being faithful to his Commander in Cheif at the UN, he did his "duty".

Now that he is not beholden he speaks his mind. He's a good man and his endorsement means a lot.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #40)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:59 AM

nichomachus (10,085 posts)

42. "Duty" does not include lying and helping start a war

You do not have to obey orders you consider immoral

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #40)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:18 PM

Star Member dflprincess (19,522 posts)

56. He was the Secretary of State

Bush was not his "commander in chief".

Powell could have resigned rather than lie - and he could have made the reasons for his resignation very public.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:21 PM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

46. "At this time..."

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always seems to end up for some people "all the time."

Anyway, as I pointed out in a separate post, it is the poster you are responding to who initially raised the issue, not so much by failing to address Powell's character and credibility, but by blatantly misrepresenting it. Then, how handy that no one else gets to call the poster out on it.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:36 AM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

15. "More Reasonable People"

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Jesus Christ...

I said the endorsement is helpful. I was responding to the other ill-informed jingoistic nonsense the poster posted. That poster said what I posted was the most-worst-thing-ever. You say it won't make a bit of difference. Which is it?

It ain't what I think. It's the truth.

"More Reasonable People"

How dare you.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:51 AM

Star Member randome (12,646 posts)

19. You have to call it like you see it.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:26 AM

Star Member longship (17,630 posts)

26. My point is...

-- I confess somewhat indelicately put -- I apologize for that, will delete my first post.

My point was it really doesn't matter how you, or any other individual, sees Colin Powell's endorsement. What matters is how the folks around the country see it.

In spite of his record during the Bush II administration, people still like him. So this endorsement may be important to Barack Obama's reelection.

I am sure neither you or anybody else here on DU would dare suggest that President Obama reject the endorsement, or to respond by arresting him for alleged war crimes.

Sometimes politics is messy, and this is apparently one of those times.

I apologize again.

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Response to longship (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:10 AM

12AngryBorneoWildmen (484 posts)

37. And I apologize to you, too, for.....

suggesting a few days ago that you "Eat Me".

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Response to longship (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:14 AM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

38. Fair enough.

After posting the news of the endorsement in LBN for as many eyes as possible to see, I wouldn't have brought it up (I could have in the OP) if not for the unnecessary empty sloganeering, glorification and whitewashing of a flawed individual and his actions, and insults and name-calling in the first response to the OP. That this endorsement is desirable and useful is simple enough to acknowledge (something I did, it has nothing at all to do with thinking the endorsement should be rejected) without posting revisionism and insults. Is that useful in fomenting solidarity and GOTV? Why would someone do that while lecturing about getting as many votes as possible?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:05 AM

rainlillie (902 posts)

7. I agree.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:14 AM

Star Member onehandle (35,417 posts)

23. It is a good thing. Powell will be paying penance for the rest of his life.

For his association with the Bush Cabal.

More of this please, General.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:55 AM

Star Member Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,851 posts)

2. Still a war criminal, but...

I still think he's complicit in Bush/Cheney war crimes against humanity, but for some reason, there is a great number of people in this country--particularly Independents--who respect and revere this man.

Good for him for trying to make amends for his crimes by not endorsing a man who has Bush foreign policy advisors on his team.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:01 AM

John2 (1,720 posts)

4. Colin Powell

I think that is a Strong endorsement. I'd rather Powell be Secretary of Defense or State if Hillary wants to run for President. He is the only Republican I wish was in this Administration. I think his talent is being wasted.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:22 AM

Star Member muriel_volestrangler (65,320 posts)

11. No - too many skeletons in his closet from the Bush days; Sen. Kerry would be better

There may be other good Democratic candidates that I don't know about, but John Kerry is well qualified. Powell is too associated with Iraq, and misrepresentation of evidence at the UN, to bring back.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:29 AM

Star Member Kolesar (29,316 posts)

13. President Clinton offered Powell a cabinet position and declined.

He's just a pol. His influence is declining and that must irk the old egotist.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:02 AM

Adenoid_Hynkel (11,603 posts)

5. good to hear

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Powell's a big name who carries a lot of weight for some, so it's a boost I'm happy we get.

And it takes the wind out of the rightwing's argument that they could more competently handle Libya if their own guy says, in essence, "No, you couldn't."

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:04 AM

rainlillie (902 posts)

6. I welcome the endorsement, if he 'd endorsed Romney that would have hurt Obama...

Since he voted for Obama in 08. Every little little bit helps IMO.

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Response to rainlillie (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:11 AM

Star Member skeewee08 (1,892 posts)

8. I agree rainlillie....

I too welcome the endorsement. Gen. Powell still caries a lot of clout with the Independence voters especially those who may still be on the fence about President O.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:33 AM

Star Member cilla4progress (2,963 posts)

14. Have been waiting for this!

Good on ya, General!!

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:37 AM

jsr (3,497 posts)

16. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

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I guess.

Nobody should ever forget Powell for his role in Vietnam and Iraq.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:39 AM

Star Member Robb (38,327 posts)

17. Fuck that guy.

Seriously. Thanks for the vote, but fuck you, Colin Powell.

See this?



That's your ticket to hell, Powell, and you can't buy your way out of it.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:22 PM

Star Member Carolina (5,785 posts)

52. Touche

I'll never forget that image. He sold his soul by willingly supporting the Bushco cabal

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:44 PM

Major Hogwash (12,365 posts)

55. Perhaps, but . . .

. . . Colin Powell carries a lot of political weight with rightwing Republican voters, and especially with rightwing Republican veterans.

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Response to Robb (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:17 AM

Star Member mountain grammy (1,597 posts)

57. Agreed, I'll never forget this appearance

Hell, I knew these were all lies, why didn't Powell know? Now his fellow republicons are, well, being themselves. Sununu says Powell endorses Obama because he is a black man. Well sununu endorses RMoney because he is a greedy douchbag, same as you, right John?

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:49 AM

AleksS (284 posts)

18. Cue Rush to say something racist again...

So, any bets as to how long it takes Rush to say something racist about the endorsement again?

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Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:59 AM

Suji to Seoul (1,921 posts)

58. John Sununu did it for him. "Colin only endorsed Obama because both are black."

Right response, wrong asshole.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:53 AM

Star Member DCBob (14,765 posts)

20. This will have positive impact and might be the final nail in the Romney coffin.

and of course the GOPers will freak out again and slam him with all sorts of insults and dumb racist comments.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:08 AM

yellowcanine (24,444 posts)

21. This is pretty big - not huge but it matters.

It may help some with military families in Virginia and North Carolina, for example. And it will really piss off the nutters, possibly triggering intemperate attacks on Powell and Obama so that may be a good thing.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:10 AM

bemildred (67,500 posts)

22. Thanks Colin. nt

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:14 AM

Star Member LP2K12 (530 posts)

24. This veteran...

endorses this endorsement.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:24 AM

Star Member onehandle (35,417 posts)

25. The differences between Powell and Rice in post Bush Cabal years are vast and sickening. nt

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:40 AM

Star Member graham4anything (9,174 posts)

28. YUP!

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:38 AM

Adenoid_Hynkel (11,603 posts)

27. I'm reminded of that song Neil Young wrote in Bush's second term

around 2005 or so...very prophetic now

Looking for a Leader

Lookin' for somebody
Young enough to take it on
Clean up the corruption
And make the country strong

(...)

Someone walks among us
And I hope he hears the call
And maybe it's a woman
Or a black man after all

Yeah maybe it's Obama
But he thinks that he's too young
Maybe it's Colin Powell
To right what he's done wrong

America has a leader
But he's not in the house
He's walking here among us
And we've got to seek him out


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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:41 AM

amuse bouche (1,701 posts)

29. This is good news

but as others have said, nothing erases his war criminal past.

And nothing he says will bring back the many dead he had a hand in killing

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:47 AM

Star Member TwilightGardener (39,680 posts)

30. I am happy to hear this. Thank you, Mr. Powell.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:51 AM

66 dmhlt (1,297 posts)

31. Video - Plus Transcript for Us Whose World Is Silent

&feature=player_embedded

Highlight Comments from Gen. Colin Powell:

"And so I think we ought to keep on the track that we are on," the Republican, who also backed Obama in 2008, told "CBS This Morning."

"I'm not quite sure which Governor Romney we'd be getting with respect to foreign policy," Powell said, calling Romney's foreign policy "a moving target."

As for the U.S. budget, he added: "It's essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things, but that compensation does not cover all the cuts intended or the expenses associated with defense."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/us-usa-campaign-powell-idUSBRE89O0RY20121025

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:26 PM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

48. Thanks!

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Added it to the OP.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:53 AM

Star Member davidpdx (8,781 posts)

32. I was beginning to wonder if he might not endorse Obama again

It looks like he was really just waiting for the last debate on foreign policy to be over before endorsing him. I wonder if Romney's people lobbied him to switch sides. It would be interesting to find out.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:53 AM

Star Member Solly Mack (49,485 posts)

33. Snicker

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:54 AM

2Design (9,042 posts)

34. at least it is one more vote for obama not matter what his past failings which he can not fix - we

we have his vote and that is good

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:01 AM

Star Member stlsaxman (9,001 posts)

35. hope it helps the Obama campain, but personally- i couldn't give a...

damn.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:34 AM

AnnieK401 (475 posts)

41. RW heads are exploding all over the internet over this.

Love it.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:44 PM

craigmatic (3,200 posts)

43. He always seems to do this shit at the last minute. I think he waits to see who's going to win then

makes an endorsement. It's either that or political cowardice.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:41 PM

sebastianj333 (99 posts)

44. So my friends, tell me, does Obama have a chance?

Many of my conservative friends say he is done and that Romney will win....of course I don't believe this, but it does start to wear on you day in and day out.

Colin Powell's endorsement just confirms my support of President Obama, even though, I do have my share of dissapointments, I still early voted for the man.

I cannot even imagine Romney as President, so I sure hope some of you, my peers can encourage me that Obama does have a very good chance of winning, more so than losing.


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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:25 PM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,054 posts)

47. I early-voted for Obama, of course.

But I'm not sure why Colin Powell's endorsement should confirm my support for the President. At any rate, the Electoral College looks good for Obama, which makes me happy and for which Powell's endorsement certainly is helpful.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:28 PM

Star Member Scurrilous (24,650 posts)

45. K & R

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:01 PM

Star Member JackBoik (41 posts)

49. Freakrepublic's head explodes over Powell's endorsement

and just for that alone, his words are worth it .


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950005/posts

With that said, I wish Powell would come out with an explicit (vs. beating around the bush) commendation of the Bush Administration and its fervor for going to war against a country that, at that time, was minding its own business.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:04 PM

Star Member tjwash (8,088 posts)

50. cue the repugs playing the race card in 3...2...1...

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And fuck yellow-cake-uranium guy. He helped lie the US into a war, and destroyed millions of lives in the process. Obama would probably bring some of the progressive he lost during the last 4 years by denying his endorsement.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:10 PM

Star Member Politicub (5,847 posts)

51. Good! Not a Powell fan but he's well regarded by many people.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:10 PM

hrmjustin (9,026 posts)

53. I say get what you can from him.

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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:39 PM

Major Hogwash (12,365 posts)

54. Romney doesn't have any military street cred, that's why!

There are lance corporals in the Marine Corps that know more about when military actions should be taken concerning foreign policy than Romney!!

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