Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:42 PM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
Allred's October Surprise Source Tried to Tell Her Romney Story in Documentary
Source: Mother Jones
Is this the October Surprise of 2012? Attorney Gloria Allred appeared in a Canton, Massachusetts, court today to petition a judge to unseal records in the decades-old divorce case of Tom Stemberg, the founder of Staples. Allred was there with Stemberg's ex-wife, Maureen Sullivan Stemberg, and what the two want made public is Mitt Romney's testimony from the nasty divorce trial. Romney, as he often boasts, helped Stemberg create Staples when he Romney was running Bain Capital, and TMZ has reported that anonymous sources say that Romney in that testimony lowballed the value of Staples stock. In court, Allred noted that she has a copy of Romney's testimony, but she has yet to say what's in it. (The Boston Globe is also asking the court to lift the gag order that was placed on the parties to the divorce.) The judge, according to the live-tweeting of David Bernstein, a reporter for the Boston Phoenix, recessed the hearing until tomorrow. Atypically, Allred left the courthouse without saying much. It seems that Maureen Sullivan Stemberg has been trying to get her story told—including the Romney angle—for several years. Four years ago, Dragon-Lion Media, a movie production company based outside of Los Angeles, announced it was making a documentary on Maureen Sullivan Stemberg, with her cooperation. It issued a press release noting that this "first-time tell all tale of the interweaving relationships and strange bedfellow" in her life would feature Romney, without specifying what role he would play. But Edmund Druilhet, the founder and CEO of Dragon-Lion Media, tells Mother Jones that Stemberg had discussed with him her belief that Romney had testified falsely to help Tom Stemberg during the trial. "She told me all about that," he says. And Sadi Ranson-Polizzotti, who was tapped to be the writer on the documentary, says that when she was working with Maureen Sullivan Stemberg she read the Romney testimony and that Romney on the stand said that Staples at that time was just "a dream" and that stock in the company was not worth much. "That really stood out to me," Ranson-Polizzotti recalls. Maureen, according to Ranson-Polizzotti, firmly believed that Romney had lied on the stand to benefit her ex-husband. The press release indicated Maureen Sullivan Stemberg was bitter about her divorce settlement, noting the film would expose the "injustice" of the Massachusetts court system. Here's the press release: -snip- Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/allred-maureen-sullivan-stemberg-romney-divorce Emphasis added.
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| highplainsdem | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| Lucinda | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| barbtries | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| ProudProgressiveNow | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| ProgressiveEconomist | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| viguy007 | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| JDPriestly | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| ProgressiveEconomist | Oct 2012 | #32 | |
| riderinthestorm | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| annabanana | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| Liberalagogo | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| 2pooped2pop | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| Liberalagogo | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
| hrmjustin | Oct 2012 | #26 | |
| Liberalagogo | Oct 2012 | #29 | |
| hrmjustin | Oct 2012 | #30 | |
| wordpix | Oct 2012 | #37 | |
| Warren DeMontague | Oct 2012 | #31 | |
| FlaGranny | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| Liberalagogo | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| hrmjustin | Oct 2012 | #27 | |
| FlaGranny | Oct 2012 | #35 | |
| Jackpine Radical | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| olddad56 | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| Liberalagogo | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| ieoeja | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| Liberalagogo | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| ieoeja | Oct 2012 | #28 | |
| CindyinIndy | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| StarryNite | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| aletier_v | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| glinda | Oct 2012 | #34 | |
| dchill | Oct 2012 | #38 | |
| mary195149 | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| progressivebydesign | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| Rider3 | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| libdem4life | Oct 2012 | #33 | |
| wordpix | Oct 2012 | #36 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:50 PM
Lucinda (16,741 posts)
1. Thanks for the MJ link!
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I've been following this other places since last night.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:07 PM
barbtries (15,011 posts)
2. interesting.
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i find that very easy to believe. i mean the man lies every times he moves his lips, to the entire country. he wouldn't hesitate to do so under oath.
yeah, i believe it. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:12 PM
ProudProgressiveNow (3,239 posts)
3. K&R
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Mystery over. Thanks for posting.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:14 PM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (10,320 posts)
4. Easy to beleive....
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...but ultimately, this goes nowhere. It's rich people problems. Hopefully come November 6th Rmoney can go back to this life of squabbling over millions for good.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:14 PM
ProgressiveEconomist (5,077 posts)
5. RATE THIS UP! If Romney is willing to lie under oath
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Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:22 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) just to help his friend cheat his wife out of millions of dollars, wouldn't he lie about his tax returns, and, in three debates, lie to the American people boldly about what he plans to do should he be elected President?
IMO, putting Maureen Sullivan Stemberg on The View, Politics Nation, etc. would focus voters on the character issue of Romney's truthfulness in the days leading up to the election. Even Fox would have to cover this. Even low-information voters know you've got to be able to trust the President. They know GW Bush lied us into Iraq and precipitated the loss of tens of thousands of lives and limbs. A President cannot be a perjurer. |
Response to ProgressiveEconomist (Reply #5)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:27 PM
viguy007 (125 posts)
6. Romney is already a perjurer, except the MSM did not spotlight it.
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Mitt Romney would brag that he was a great businessman and should vote for him because of this; he could turn around the economy. Yet, it was shown his company (Bain) outsourced jobs to other countries, fired employees and drove companies into bankruptcy. Mitt Romney responded that he was not responsible for these things because they happened after he left the company in 1999. However, official SEC documents, which Mitt signed under penalty of perjury, indicate he was CEO of Bain until 2002.
If Mitt Romney left Bain in 1999 then why is Bain important? We must not forget a major contributing cause of the Financial Crisis of 2008 was the filing of false or misleading documents with the SEC. This is no small or trivial matter. Since 2009 the SEC has collected fines of over 3 Billion dollars for this violation from financial institutions such as, among others: “Goldman Sachs”, “Citigroup”, “Credit Suisse”, “J.P. Morgan”, and “UBS”. Mitt Romney said actually left all operational control of Bain Capital in 1999. This means he sanctioned and acquiesced to the filing of false and misleading documents with the SEC until 2002. This indicates a certain attitude towards these filings: The complete and truthful disclosure of all facts to the SEC is not important. This was an attitude all too prevalent in the financial community prior to 2009, and all of us paid the price. Is full disclosure to the SEC one of the regulations Mitt Romney would do away with? What about other regulations overseeing the financial community; Wall Street and the banks too big to fail? If you put a fox in charge of the chicken coop, you have a problem for the chickens. Will Mitt Romney's election be the equivalent of that for the small investor? As a small investor, and businessman, is this a chance I want to take? I have been burnt once by a government that did not believe in regulation, and was asleep at the wheel. "Bain" was first brought up by a candidate, who Mitt Romney mocked as wanting to colonize the moon, and the false filing received no mention in the media. Perjury is perjury. It was ethically and morally equal to saying "I never had sex with that woman", for which Bill Clinton was impeached. However this was much worse. This was related to an institution designed to protect investors, not sex. There can be no equivocation since the two official documents Mitt signed exactly contradict each other 100%. He can not flip-flop between these two documents. Either Mitt lied to the SEC, which is perjury, or he is bald-faced lying to us, we the people he wants to vote for him. |
Response to viguy007 (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:32 PM
JDPriestly (37,758 posts)
14. Great post, viguy007
Response to viguy007 (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:35 PM
ProgressiveEconomist (5,077 posts)
32. In my mind, I can hear James Carville: "Perjuror, tax cheat, misogynist--
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Are you going to vote for such a person? Characcter counts. Can you trust a potential President Mitt Romney to do the right thing when he thinks nobocy is looking?
Great post. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:29 PM
riderinthestorm (13,166 posts)
7. Glad to know this story is out there. Even if the testimony remains sealed, this news is toxic.
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Lying on the stand is a VERY easy concept for voters to understand....
Hope it hangs around unsolved for a long while. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:50 PM
annabanana (45,568 posts)
8. kickers. . . He really has NO SCRUPLES has he?
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Up close and personal war on women..
all this and perjury too. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:55 PM
Liberalagogo (217 posts)
9. The problem with this is
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That you try to poush this story, wingnuts are immediately going to point to Clinton lying under oath, which he did, like it or not.
Yes, The Stench did wrong and is scum and needs some kind of punishment. But I can't get too enthusiastic over this. It's almost, but not quite as lame as Trump's garbage. I say just let matters with this run their course and not push it into the limelight. |
Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #9)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:58 PM
2pooped2pop (2,611 posts)
10. not too enthusiastic over this but...
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Clinton ain't runnin. I say push everything into the limelight. Play their game, see what sticks.
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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:07 PM
Liberalagogo (217 posts)
25. And Obama is
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and Mr. Clinton is majorly stumping for him.
I don't see any good happening in pushing this right now. |
Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #25)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:27 PM
hrmjustin (9,081 posts)
26. I do.
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Clinton was never convicted, and it happened during his second term. If it happened during his election it would have been a big and legit issue in the campaign. The GOP can not get away with waving this off when they impeached Clinton for lying under oath.
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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #26)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:33 PM
Liberalagogo (217 posts)
29. No one is saying
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Let The Stench off......this just doesn't need national attention right now. Just let matters run their course locally. This could easily blow up in the Dem's faces by pushing this too hard. There is far too much at stake than trying to satisfy some need for revenge, however right that need may be.
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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #29)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:41 PM
hrmjustin (9,081 posts)
30. I just don't see it that way, but we will find out soon in the end.
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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #29)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:35 AM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
37. oh really? Another MittLie should not be examined, possibly one that impacted his paying taxe$?
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to benefit him, of course, while lying to IRS?
Methinks you doth protest too much, a troll perchance? |
Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #25)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:28 PM
Warren DeMontague (46,312 posts)
31. Bill Clinton is the Michael Jordan of Politics, and if the GOP wants to remind the US what they did
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to this country by wasting 2 years dragging us through that hypocritical impeachment garbage over a blowjob, go for it.
Speaking of shit backfiring. |
Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #9)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:18 PM
FlaGranny (8,072 posts)
12. Clinton only hurt himself.
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Mitt's lie caused harm to another person. Big difference.
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Response to FlaGranny (Reply #12)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:06 PM
Liberalagogo (217 posts)
23. And Hillary is just some broad
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that was not affected at all by this?
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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #23)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:28 PM
hrmjustin (9,081 posts)
27. She forgave him.
Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #23)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:51 AM
FlaGranny (8,072 posts)
35. Geez, it wasn't the lie at the hearing that hurt Hillary.
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Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:52 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) It was the infidelity that hurt Hillary. The lie at the hearing caused her no harm.
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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #9)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jackpine Radical (36,575 posts)
13. Clinton, Clinton…I know
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I've heard that name before. Is he the black guy in the White House?
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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:45 PM
olddad56 (2,831 posts)
18. weak attempt at humor
Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:06 PM
Liberalagogo (217 posts)
24. Why are you all mentioning Obama?
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I didn't. I merely pointed out that screaming about The Stench's lying under oath will have the wingnuts screeching about Clinton. It's not worth it right now?
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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #9)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:53 PM
ieoeja (7,881 posts)
19. Clinton did not lie under oath. Not that this has anything whatsoever to do with Obama.
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He denied having "sexual relations" with Lewinsky. When asked the question his first response was: what constitutes "sexual relations". The GOP came up with a definition. The judge rejected it as too vague. The GOP came back a week later saying they liked it vague. Their definition excluded all sort of sexual activities, including those in which Clinton engaged. So his "no" answer was perfectly legitimate. There is a reason he was never charged with perjury. He never perjured himself. Of course, this has no bearing whatsoever on the current election. But someone has been feeding you a big ol' shit sandwich. And I thought you might appreciate hearing the facts. |
Response to ieoeja (Reply #19)
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:04 PM
CindyinIndy (90 posts)
11. This....
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and the Mourdock thingy - it's been a wonderful day!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:37 PM
StarryNite (2,785 posts)
15. Romney was just Lying for God...
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Apparently there are conservatives who think it's okay to 'lie for God' and 'rape for God'....just lyin' and rapin' for God.
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Response to StarryNite (Reply #15)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:41 PM
aletier_v (1,773 posts)
16. well, he was lying for A god.
Response to aletier_v (Reply #16)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:50 PM
glinda (12,076 posts)
34. Remember what Mittster said "We all believe in the SAME god".
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Response to glinda (Reply #34)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:37 AM
dchill (7,870 posts)
38. Good old Mammon strikes again.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:42 PM
mary195149 (379 posts)
17. Isn't this what Romney probably did,
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undervalue stocks so so very low. How else did he end up with up to $100M in his IRA?
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:15 PM
progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)
20. So fascinating to have a gag order on a divorce, BEFORE Staples really went anywhere...
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think about it. How often does that happen??? Or is it the usual Romney hiding everything, like the hard drives from his time at Governor, or his records from the Olympics that are sealed at a University? Or records of his time at Bain??? His tax returns??
Who the hell would elect that guy? Seriously. He's scary. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:39 PM
Rider3 (486 posts)
21. I wouldn't doubt it
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Romney lies to get what he wants. It's been proven. I hope they release these papers.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:28 AM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
36. now why would R$ lowball the figure to help hubbie? Maybe to lower R$'s own taxes? Calling IRS!
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I'm sure it didn't matter to R$ who "won" that divorce settlement. What's it to R$ if Staples is worth nothing or millions in a divorce case that doesn't involve him? My guess is there was lots of money in it for R$ to lowball the figure to benefit his own tax avoidance---it's just another tax scheme of this lowlife white collar criminal---another R who should be in the Big House and not the White House.
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