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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:14 AM

Ecuador worried by Assange health, seeks UK safe passage promise

Source: Reuters

Ecuador is worried about the health of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and has asked Britain to guarantee him safe passage from its London embassy to a hospital if he needs medical treatment, a senior Ecuadorean diplomat said in Moscow.

"Assange has grown noticeably thinner, and we are very concerned about his health," Voice of Russia radio quoted Vice Foreign Minister Marco Albuja Martinez as saying in comments confirmed by the Ecuadorean embassy in Moscow.

"If he falls ill we will have to choose between two alternatives: to treat Assange in the embassy or hospitalize him," Albuja Martinez said on Tuesday. "This is a very serious situation and it can affect Assange's human rights."

Britain's Foreign Office said it had no immediate comment on the remarks.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/ecuador-worried-assange-health-seeks-uk-safe-passage-111308314.html

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Reply Ecuador worried by Assange health, seeks UK safe passage promise (Original post)
Zorro Oct 2012 OP
randome Oct 2012 #1
AAO Oct 2012 #7
hack89 Oct 2012 #9
AAO Oct 2012 #15
hack89 Oct 2012 #16
AAO Oct 2012 #17
hack89 Oct 2012 #22
msanthrope Oct 2012 #2
tsuki Oct 2012 #3
msanthrope Oct 2012 #5
tsuki Oct 2012 #12
msanthrope Oct 2012 #14
Plucketeer Oct 2012 #4
Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #6
George II Oct 2012 #20
hack89 Oct 2012 #8
randome Oct 2012 #10
backscatter712 Oct 2012 #11
tsuki Oct 2012 #13
riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #21
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #18
George II Oct 2012 #19
backscatter712 Oct 2012 #23
George II Oct 2012 #24
AntiFascist Oct 2012 #29
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #26
AntiFascist Oct 2012 #25
hack89 Oct 2012 #27
George II Oct 2012 #28
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #30
bluestate10 Oct 2012 #31

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:21 AM

1. He's not a refugee but that's how Ecuador wants to declare him.

Ecuador has asked the British Foreign Office for a document that would enable Assange to enter hospital safely if necessary and return to the embassy with refugee status, the Voice of Russia quoted Albuja Martinez as saying.


I don't think it would set a good precedent to allow political matters to be classified as refugee matters. But maybe the U.K. can work out some other kind of deal.

I don't think they SHOULD because it's Assange's choice to remain where he is.

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Response to randome (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:44 AM

7. He's not a refuge per se, but he has political asylum which is technically being a refuge becuase

 

he can't go back to his own country without being arrested and extradited to either Sweden or the U.S.

Although, I have been known to be wrong on occasion...

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Response to AAO (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:59 AM

9. He has diplomatic asylum which is not the same as political asylum

it is also not recognized in international law - Central and South America are the only parts of the world where it is formally recognized.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:14 PM

15. Why not political asylum - it's the damn politicians that want to fry his ass?

 

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Response to AAO (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:16 PM

16. It does not meet the internationally recognized legal standard for political asylum

from a legal perspective it is settled law - the issue was decided by the ICJ in the 1950's.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:00 PM

17. Well, that sucks...

 

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Response to AAO (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:09 PM

22. I suspect Assange would agree with your assessment. nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:21 AM

2. Somebody get that man some fish and chips!!! nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:30 AM

3. The UK is very political. They defended Pinochet

against extradition to Spain. They will not serve extradition warrants on the Icelandic bankers wanted for fraud and theft. Gary McKinnon was not extradited because of Human Rights violations in the States, but Richard O'Dwyer is on the hook for extradition and so is Assange. Theresa May needs to pick a policy and stick with it.

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Response to tsuki (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:01 AM

5. Gary McKinnon was a medical risk. That's why he wasn't extradited, but he still faces prosecution

in Britian. Theresa May has a policy. It's not one that coddles alleged rapists.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:35 PM

12. And to protect banksta-gangstas. nt

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Response to tsuki (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:38 PM

14. What extradition order was not served on banksters-gangstas? Please be specific. nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:42 AM

4. How's about we...

extradite Issa to Guantanamo??? I think the AG could assure Issa, safe passage.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:06 AM

6. Assange got himself where he is today........

 

He chose to go to the Ecuadorian embassy and seek refuge against due process in a criminal matter. That is really all that needs to be considered. If he needs medical treatment then he re-enters the UK and is subject to incarceration and extradition to Sweden.

But the case of the Libyan imprisoned for involvement in the Pan Am bombing does show how political pressure can be brought to bear on these kinds of matters.

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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:07 PM

20. And that is after he PROMISED he would face is obligation in Sweden

Here's a very telling excerpt from the article cited:

"Assange broke the conditions of his bail when he entered the embassy after running out of legal options to avoid being sent to Sweden."

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:57 AM

8. I hear Swedish health care is excellent. nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:28 PM

10. Time for a real grassroots effort!

Everyone surround the embassy and throw potatoes and fruits into it! (And maybe a cookie or two.)

You must act like Assange's life depends on it!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:29 PM

11. I see that the usual authoritarian bully brigade is here to mock a sick man.

Yeah, keep posting, assholes!

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:36 PM

13. +++1000

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:09 PM

21. Where have I heard this lately? Whose mantra is "Die. Die quickly"?



Disgusting. Their hatred is grotesque. At least its right out there on display

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:03 PM

18. I bet the Ecuadorian Embassy staff started locking up their food.

It must be annoying for them having a pompous egoist like Assange hanging out all day at their workplace with nothing to do other than raid the refrigerator and pontificate about the evil Swedes and Americans.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:06 PM

19. Why doesn't the guy just face up to his responsibilities? He's "sick" because he WANTS to be sick!

The world has grown tired of this egomaniac.

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Response to George II (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:14 PM

23. Is Free Republic missing one of its mouth-breathers?

I guess so, because they're posting here.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:20 PM

24. So people who aren't duped by this rapist egomaniac must be Freepers?

It's about time this bail jumper fulfills his promise to Sweden! Maybe they can hire "Dog the Bounty Hunter"?

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Response to George II (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:32 PM

29. Those who are hypercritical of Assange....

do seem to echo the rabid Republicans who have been calling for Assange's execution. "dog" indeed.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:25 PM

26. Given that Assange has been campaigning directly against Obama,

it's probably not inappropriate to criticize him on DU.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:21 PM

25. I wonder how difficult it would be...

for Assange to gain Ecuadorian citizenship? At least as an Ecuadorian citizen they could claim that they are protecting the human rights of one of their own citizens.

Also, recent FOI documentation shows that Australian diplomats have been cooperating with the US investigation that could very well lead to Assange's prosecution and ultimate extradition to the US. Australia is essentially working at odds with Ecuador's stated goal of protecting Assange's human rights.

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:26 PM

27. They require three years of residency so he can apply in 2015

the good news he doesn't have to move.

Ecuadorian Citizenship

You can get Ecuadorian nationality by naturalization.
Requirements:
1. Be 18 years old or older.
2. Have a profession, business, job, or investment that allows you to live independently.
3. Speak and write in Spanish.
4. Have general knowledge of Ecuadorian history and geography and also about Ecuadorīs constitution.
5.Prove a minimum time of three years of residence since the date of expedition of the Ecuadorian identity card as a foreigner.
6. The time of residence is reduced to two years in the case that a foreigner is married to an Ecuadorian or has one or more children born in the national territory.
7. The absences of more than ninety days interrupts the time of legal residence. In case of serious reasons for health or studies, the Minister of Foreign Relations will be able to consider that such absences do not interrupt the time of legal residence.

Children of the foreign applicant could be included in the request of their father to obtain the Ecuadorian nationality, they have to be under 18 years old and depend on their parents.

8. Write a request asking for naturalization, this has to be sign by the applicant and a ecuadorian lawyer.


http://blog.pro-ecuador.com/?p=114


He would also have to surrender his Australian citizenship.

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:32 PM

28. I wonder how difficult it would be for him to live up the the terms of his bail to which HE agreed?

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:41 PM

30. He would still be stuck in the embassy, even as an Ecuadorian citizen (nt)

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:59 PM

31. Sweden has excellent health care. Assange will be well taken care of in Sweden. nt

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