Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:50 AM
grasswire (36,696 posts)
Issa's Benghazi Document Dump (10/19) Exposes Several Libyans Working With the U.S.
Source: Foreign Policy journal
House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) compromised the identities of several Libyans working with the U.S. government and placed their lives in danger when he released reams of State Department communications Friday, according to Obama administration officials. Issa posted 166 pages of sensitive but unclassified State Department communications related to Libya on the committee's website afternoon as part of his effort to investigate security failures and expose contradictions in the administration's statements regarding the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi that resulted in the death of Amb. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. "The American people deserve nothing less than a full explanation from this administration about these events, including why the repeated warnings about a worsening security situation appear to have been ignored by this administration. Americans also deserve a complete explanation about your administration's decision to accelerate a normalized presence in Libya at what now appears to be at the cost of endangering American lives," Issa and Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) wrote today in a letter to President Barack Obama. But Issa didn't bother to redact the names of Libyan civilians and local leaders mentioned in the cables, and just as with the WikiLeaks dump of State Department cables last year, the administration says that Issa has done damage to U.S. efforts to work with those Libyans and exposed them to physical danger from the very groups that had an interest in attacking the U.S. consulate. Read more: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/19/issa_s_benghazi_document_dump_exposes_several_libyans_working_with_the_us More at the link
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25 replies, 2592 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| grasswire | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| Turbineguy | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| JB126 | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| Ecumenist | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| olddad56 | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| kelliekat44 | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
| struggle4progress | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| chuckstevens | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| TruthBeTold65 | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| nonoxy9 | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| Z_California | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| Liberalynn | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| maddogesq | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| lsewpershad | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| JDPriestly | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| The Second Stone | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| grasswire | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| AtheistCrusader | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| warrprayer | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| mainer | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| IthinkThereforeIAM | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| mainer | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| sarchasm | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| Festivito | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| WillyT | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| harmonicon | Oct 2012 | #24 |
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:55 AM
Turbineguy (16,545 posts)
1. Issa should go back
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to stealing cars. It's really more his line.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:30 AM
JB126 (165 posts)
2. And
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of course if anything happens to those Libyans that are helping us, the Republicans will turn around and blame Obama.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:49 AM
Ecumenist (5,646 posts)
3. OMG!! He needs to be executed for treason, after a open and fair trial , of course.
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What the fuck is wrong with these people? They are treasonous..myGod, those poor, wonderful people who are helping us and this sorry son of a bitch does this...
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Response to Ecumenist (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 05:56 PM
olddad56 (2,831 posts)
23. no, he needs to rot in Gitmo for 10 years before any trial.
Response to Ecumenist (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:52 PM
kelliekat44 (1,256 posts)
25. Issa just doesn't value their lives or the work they do. He just all about defeating Obama.
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:53 AM
struggle4progress (71,480 posts)
4. Mr Issa needs to step down
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:11 AM
chuckstevens (335 posts)
5. Issa
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What a total douche bag! However, no one should be surprised. Who votes for this prick?
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:45 AM
TruthBeTold65 (180 posts)
6. issa is a big pile of steaming hot sh..
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:50 AM
nonoxy9 (212 posts)
7. Issa and his lot should be investigated for treason!
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:34 AM
Z_California (128 posts)
8. Yes, Issa is a piece of shit but...
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Why were the documents not classified? Let's not get ahead of ourselves on this one.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
Liberalynn (5,547 posts)
9. Issa and all Thugs
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Last edited Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:52 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) are lower than scum. If the Puke Congress keeps cutting the budget for protection of Embassies how do they expect President Obama's administration to provide more?
Are the guards just supposed to volunteer? |
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
maddogesq (981 posts)
10. Got Treason?
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This is just beyond the pale. Like 68 and 80 these bastids will risk lives to get their boy elected.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:41 AM
lsewpershad (1,394 posts)
11. When.......With time
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this guy will eventually end up in prison.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:07 PM
JDPriestly (37,753 posts)
12. Look at a map, Congressman Issa, and you will understand that you should not be so loud
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about your "concerns" right now. Where is Libya? What countries are adjacent to it?
And what just happened in Libya a couple of years ago? Obviously the country is in turmoil. Obviously we have intelligence operations there. And why is the right wing in this country, once again, spouting off secrets it should not reveal. The right wing Republicans do not have the sensitivity for foreign diplomacy that is required to represent our country. They just don't get it. Think about people you know. Some, like Benjamin Franklin, have great tact and are sensitive to the feelings of others, understand the nuances of language and can persuade in a gentle way. They know when to be silent and listen, and they know when to speak up and how to cause others listen to them. It's these people, like Benjamin Franklin, who make good diplomats. Now look at Obama and then at Romney. Which one has the most tact? Which one is sensitive and can easily gauge the feelings of others? Which one best understands the nuances of language? And which one persuades gently, not in a bullying way? Which one knows when to be silent, when to listen? (Think of the last debate, "Go ahead, Governor.") Which one knows how to use the pause, the emphasis, the body language and the physical presence to cause others to want to listen? Which of them has a voice you want to listen to? The person with those qualities will make a good diplomat. Republicans in general make lousy diplomats. Just in general. They lack the finesse. They lack the (at least outward) humility. Another reason to pick Democrats like Obama. Obama was born to be a diplomat. And in fact his mother fulfilled to some extent diplomatic tasks. No wonder Obama is well liked everywhere pretty much in the world. If you think we face hostility in the world today, just imagine what it would be like if Billy Graham's choice, Mitt Romney, were out there dealing with the Muslim world. Of course, in ten minutes of a diplomatically charged representation, in ten minutes of looking at the stone and hostile faces of people from other countries who disagree with him, George Romney would turn to putty. That's why we need four more years for Obama. Please, please, please. George Romney would be a disaster in foreign policy. And I say that on the basis of his personality alone. I'm sure he can be charming one on one, but he does not have the makings of a diplomat. He is too heavy-handed, and too used to buying his way around the world. In short, too much like a bully -- or at least he comes across that way. And those of us who have experience with bullies know that deep down they are weak and fearful. Not good qualities in a president. |
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
The Second Stone (1,023 posts)
13. Exactly what Bradley Manning is accused of doing
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Last edited Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:40 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) and the secrecy laws do apply to Congressmembers with security clearance.
Although I am not sure that Bradley Manning is accused of giving up names of assets that might get those assets in trouble or killed. This is also along the lines of what got Cheney's aide Libby indicted. So does the law to everyone in this country or not? Is there an exception for Republicans? I demand that the DOJ launch an investigation. |
Response to The Second Stone (Reply #13)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:26 PM
grasswire (36,696 posts)
15. I assume the law applies to congressmen.
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The same law that applies to Bradley Manning.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:24 PM
AtheistCrusader (14,181 posts)
14. Goddamn dumbass.
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That will probably get people killed.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
warrprayer (1,256 posts)
16. I have no doubt
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that the plutocracy somehow used its influence to propel the events of September 11 2012. Just too convienient to cause an embarrasment for Obama. I can only hope that if this is the case, those responsible will be brought to justice, but after seeing Bushco walk away scott free in spite of a democratic sitting President and congress, I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:47 PM
mainer (6,650 posts)
17. No consulate in Benghazi? Was the ambassador visiting a CIA station instead?
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This is one of the comments under the foreign policy article:
Don Bacon "attacking the U.S. consulate" There is no US consulate in Benghazi, which is why State didn't care about security and why State tried to avoid responsibility. It was a CIA operation with a dozen agents. (Ineffective, of course.) Why should State provide security for CIA? Besides, the Agency likes to keep a low profile. The US does not have an embassy, a consulate or a diplomatic mission in Benghazi. There are none listed on this State Department list of all the US embassies and consulates in the world. http://www.usembassy.gov/ On September 12, 2012, SecState Clinton made two statements. She never used the word “consulate.”To describe the place that was attacked in Benghazi she used instead the words ‘U.S. diplomatic post, compound, our buildings and our office.’ http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2012/09/197654.htm http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2012/09/197630.htm There is (and was) no US consulate in Benghazi. No consul. No consular officials. No commercial officers. No diplomats of any kind. No consulate. It was CIA. Why was Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi? President Obama said Stevens was in volatile eastern Libya "to establish a new cultural center and modernize a hospital." Sure. Actually Stevens was playing CIA agent in Benghazi, just like he did a year ago when he organized militants to bring Gaddafi down. Their relationship was different this time. Stevens was in Benghazi arranging for an arms shipment to Turkey. While Stevens was in Benghazi the ship Intisaar´(victory), with 400 tons of cargo which included ´SAM-7 surface-to air anti aircraft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades (RPG`s), sailed from Benghazi to Iskenderun, Hatay province, Turkey, a stone’s throw from Syria. |
Response to mainer (Reply #17)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:44 PM
IthinkThereforeIAM (1,563 posts)
21. Good find...
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... that sure explains alot. |
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:49 PM
mainer (6,650 posts)
18. Wow, it appears to be true. We have no official consulate in Benghazi!
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All we had there, it appears, was a CIA station. And the State Department does not provide security for the CIA, does it?
http://www.usembassy.gov/ Thank you, Issa, for telling the world about our CIA station. |
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:38 PM
sarchasm (149 posts)
19. disturbing on so many levels.
Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:02 PM
Festivito (12,283 posts)
20. Wikileaks offers to let you know before leaking. Issa's much worse.
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Much much worse.
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 05:51 PM
WillyT (45,573 posts)
22. K & R !!!
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Response to grasswire (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:54 PM
harmonicon (11,934 posts)
24. Good for him.
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I understand that people are upset because this is politically bad for the president - and that's probably why Issa did it - but it was the right thing to do, I think. I don't think we should have secret documents. Our government royally fucked up with Libya and needs to be called out on it.
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