Rep. Joe Walsh: Abortion never saves mom's life

Where do they get this ignorant crap?

And in Wisconsin there is another Tammy gonna kick ass for senate!

Go Tammys!!

I wish every state had this happening to it, where a progressive is kickin' the ass of a right wing jerk.


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To see..Mr Walsh need to go on a tour to himself off as an example.

roaming the earth and they are all Repukes.

I'm absolutely certain that 100% of OB/GYN's would disagree with Joe Walsh, as I am equally sure that 100% disagreed with Todd Akin.

Not to mention 100% of the people who know anything about reproduction, science and/or possess a modest amount of common sense. Who does this bullshit artist think he's fooling? These two are the epitome of con artists pushing the envelope to see how much bullshit they can get away with saying.

Next we will be hearing that incest and rape are just another form of contraception, and women should count every pregnancy as a blessing. Oh wait, we've already heard that. I have this to say to these idiots - if something happens to YOUR penis or YOUR testicles, you don't need to do anything about it whatsoever, since it is God's will that it rots right off of your body. Surely that's God's way of saying that you don't belong in the gene pool.

Think they'd fervently agree with that?

neither should Viagara or any other medication or instrumentality intended to help a male "get it up". It must be God's will that your willy can't rise to attention.

and that is God's will.

And Rush is well known for his Viagra use. So all of you Dittoheads, please take note. Because God will turn you from your evil GOP ways...

Don't you know that Viagra is required for a proper follow through in your golf swing while at the same time enables you to drive through spectacular vistas in your Lexus? My God woman! What on earth would we do with all of those over priced luxury cars and the acres upon acres of golf greens if there were no Viagra?

Although I bet his wife would certainly not object to him not taking it.

in men makes them unable to get it up at all without it. And, that in males 30 and over, it increases heart disease.

But hey, it is so much better than a woman being able to have sex and not get pregnant when she and her partner can't afford children.

If a man can't get his dick up the world will end, even if he gets to the point where he can't ever get his dick up again without the drug. A woman taking birth control to prevent pregnancy which has been studied for nearly 90 years is the end of the world.

I wonder why that is? :taps lips:

I got your humor .

"And just what is this "modern technology and science" of which you speak?"

Let him name it. 'Cuz "Doctors want to know!"

As someone who back in the early seventies nearly died from a miscarriage, back in the days when an abortion ban was in effect in Illinois, let me tell you - if doctors cannot perform a D & C to stop bleeding when a woman miscarries, then they can't use a technology that women are entitled to as part of their health care.

And once an abortion ban is in effect, that is what happens - doctors are scared of doing a D & C on a severely hemorrhaging young woman, who is miscarrying, because after the operation, there might be a possibility of seeing evidence that the young woman attempted to self abort. (If it is proven the young woman did attempt to self-abort, then the hospital would lose its license, for letting the doctors operate on her.) So every woman in that situation is at risk - even though life threatening bleed-outs often mean the fetus is no longer viable.

Of course if men could get pregnant, abortion would be viewed as either a sacrament or a patriotic ritual.

As are the idiots that keep voting for this turd.

To date there are no idiots that "keep" voting for him. Though there certainly will be when November comes.

It was kind of a shame that we gerrymandered his district. It was a swing district before, and a radical like Walsh would have never been re-elected.

On the other hand, the gerrymander meant we could run a truly liberal Democrat against him. Unfortunately, neo-libs have been trying like hell to get something for their Duckworth. Successfully primaried a Democrat who narrowly lost the general previous time only to see Duckworth blown out by a large margin in her general. Gave her a political appointment when she couldn't get elected. Looks like they are finally going to succeed this time.

The common sentiment I encounter in blue-collar Chicago is, "I really don't like that woman, but she's a hell of a lot better than that Walsh nutjob." We are not in her district, but we do have to put up with the campaign commercials.

I am really surprised by the amount of support Duckworth gets on DU. Generally neo-libs don't get much love here. For some reason Duckworth is an exception to that rule. I imagine the blinders will fall off once she gets into office and starts voting neo-lib.

Nor do I care.

I do know that Duckworth will be infinitely better than Walsh or any Rethug.

Economically they are very Reaganesque rather than Teabaggeresque. Like Reagan they are willing to increase the Federal income tax if things get bad enough.

Economic rightism shouldn't be getting the free pass it's been getting lately

And that is exactly how she's going to vote. Overall, she's still far superior to Walsh, about whom I almost feel hatred, which is a bad thing to feel.

mikey_the_rat

Good one!

happened some years ago
was lucky kid was far enough along
for rather emergency c-section
wife died couple years later

Grim times waiting for the test to come back with fetal developement
there was no time........

or did I misread that?

still remember trips to the clinic as he was growing up and they would do
the usual blood work--and i would ask if they were going to do a cbc with a dif

a little education is sometimes a bad thing

it must have been the worst time in your life---and I feel for u.

I hope YOU''re ok now...

I hope your kid alright!

Tammy Duckworth for Congress.

It's cool to malign an idiot, but to defeat this asshat we have to support his Dem opponent. And she's a cracker jack. She can also be a winner if we support her in whatever ways we can.

Posting a Walsh post without citing Tammy's site is not recommended. We need this seat.

Thanks.

on edit: typo.

but that's it. He's adding his voice to the conservative chorus of dominionists who want to control their women the way they hold dominion over all other living things of the Earth. But he should never be allowed to run this government in service of their beliefs.
I already donated to Duckworth's campaign.

...and welcome to Washington, Congresswoman Duckworth.

.......I was planning on sending him a box of used tea bags and a beanie fedora to dangle them from; either that or else a box of envelopes to be used for mailing his child support payments.

Stupid fundy asshole.

Does he think babies can grow to full term and be delivered from a fallopian tube? Or science can take them out, IF they even find out in time, and then MAKE them re-implant in the uterus? Did I miss that miracle breakthrough?

I guess this is why these Republican think that abortion is never necessary to save the life of the woman.

Life threatening to the mother, with no chance of survival for the fetus. The deadbeat dad that claims to love fetuses so much, but refused to support his after they were born, evidently knows as much about embryology as he knows about caring for his own kids. The hypocrisy of teabaggers to even claim him to be for "family values" is shrieking hilarious.

As well as a disgusting human being. Tammy Duckworth needs our help. Please Please offer any amount to her campaign!

before you start letting the verbal vomit you think of as fact just fly out of your mouth.

Fucking morons, all of them.

She was rushed to an emergency room and her life was saved by abortion. She was screaming at the doctor to let her die to save the babies... of course, because they were so tiny, there was no way this was possible. It was a horrific tragedy that left her scarred for life... but alive.

This man is completely and totally full of shit.

I'm terribly sorry she was so ignorant of the facts at the time that she was willing to die to save zygotes (not "babies") that were completely doomed from the moment they implanted in the wrong place.

I mean it -- that's appalling, and I'm not saying it is her fault in any way. I lay the blame utterly at the feet of rabid pro-birthers like Walsh and Aiken, who spread misinformation and outright lies with every breath.

Hugs to both of you from granny,

Hekate

What is an ectopic pregnancy?

In a normal pregnancy, a fertilized egg travels through a fallopian tube to the uterus. The egg attaches in the uterus and starts to grow. But in an ectopic pregnancy, the fertilized egg attaches (or implants) someplace other than the uterus, most often in the fallopian tube. (This is why it is sometimes called a tubal pregnancy.) In rare cases, the egg implants in an ovary, the cervix, or the belly.

See a picture of an ectopic pregnancy camera.

There is no way to save an ectopic pregnancy. It cannot turn into a normal pregnancy. If the egg keeps growing in the fallopian tube, it can damage or burst the tube and cause heavy bleeding that could be deadly. If you have an ectopic pregnancy, you will need quick treatment to end it before it causes dangerous problems.

http://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/ectopic-pregnancy-topic-overview

Used to be called a tubal pregnancy.

Since so many people had mentioned it, I was googling around and stumbled across their webpage. The page I landed on was on late term abortions but didn't mention this condition, so I searched their site until I found it.

It's significant that even they acknowledge such a scenario exists.

http://www.aaplog.org/position-and-papers/what-is-aaplog%E2%80%99s-position-on-treatment-of-ectopic-pregnancy/

I once knew a very wacko religious Pentecostal co-worker who was deeply traumatized because of an ectopic pregnancy. She was terrified that she was going to be damned to Hell for the abortion.

If it never happens, what's wrong with leaving the exception in place?

for ALL incoming Congresspersons (both genders - I've heard Teh Stoopid from some women, too).

Would that be considered dangerous to the mother's health?
What if she was carrying twins and only one of them died?

The doctor did not want to wait until her body was poisoned by the dead fetus. She really wanted the baby but she could not have it.

Per the NIH:

An ectopic pregnancy is a pregnancy that occurs outside the womb (uterus). It is a life-threatening condition to the mother. The baby (fetus) cannot survive.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001897/

1 in every 50 pregnancies is ectopic.

http://miscarriage.about.com/od/riskfactors/f/ectopic-pregnancy-statistics.htm

I wouldn't be here if they hadn't performed surgery and neither would she. She's 80 now and had to have one tube and one ovary removed. She then had FIVE children.

He's a jack ass.

Modern medicine has solved that problem. (in case the tag is needed)

I had an ectopic pregnancy in 2000 and made it to the hospital just in time. I remember having an ultrasound and the nurse running out of the room in a rush to get the doctor. In my case I would never have survived. Joe Walsh has no idea what he is saying.

Mine was back in the early 80's.

It started with a very sharp pain. I actually thought it was a really bad case of indigestion at first. Three days later, it was obvious that this was not the case.

I knew very little about ectopic pregnancy at the time. At first, I refused surgery and begged the doctor to save the pregnancy. He finally told me. The baby can not be saved, you will die without it.

This was in a Catholic hospital.

One minute you are so excited making plans to have a baby then in one second it's gone. JOE WALSH please stop saying stupid hurtful things to stay relevant in the news. LADIES IT'S MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER THAT WE FIGHT TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND THE NEXT GENERATION from extreme thinking that will end up hurting everyone.

He is such a compassionate, sensitive guy.

These repukes will say anything, embrace any wacked out ideology just to keep their jobs.

They have no ethics, values, or moral framework. Walsh just saw a tea party opening, the party of wackos, applied for the job, but has no concern about any beliefs in any party. Like Romney he just sees politics as a job and nothing more than that.

Part of it had expelled but part had not. I literally went into shock. They performed emergency D&C. I might have survived with multiple transfusions and intensive care, but why chance it. That definitely qualifies under health of mother. I might not have been able to have my children after that either. I am sure that events like that sometimes happen even when the embryo/fetus is not dead.
Aside from such events, there are women who discover that they have a severe condition early in their pregnancy. For some, the condition will get worse if a pregnancy continues. Many of these conditions cannot be treated during pregnancy. In all of these cases, the health of the mother is at risk and to varying degrees the life of the mother is at risk. In some cases, there is a very high chance of death before birth, even Caesarian at 28 weeks. Even it less extreme cases, this should be a decision that a woman should be able to make after consulting with her doctor. Does he really think that no woman have ever been diagnosed with cancer during a prenatal visit?

It has your name on it, Joe.

Just one, woman I know, for example, had her heart vessels tear, front and back, during a vaginal delivery.
They had to crack her chest twice because they didn't realize she had ripped one on the posterior side, as well.
She almost died, and if she hadn't been young and healthy to start, she might have needed a transplant.
Having a baby is far more dangerous than having an abortion.
She truely risks her life if she ever got pregnant or tried to carry to term. It would kill her. And leave two motherless sons. She is just one who should abort right away if she conceived by accident. And it would be a loved and wanted child. The decision would deviate that family.
A woman I worked with never had any kids. The one pregnancy she had almost took her life. Something about the way the baby attached in the uterus, altered her circulation, and took blood away from her heart and
lungs. It was sucking the life out of her. It was her or the fetus. Again the mother grieved.

any suspicions that he's intelligent.

I'm starting a list of 'things Joe Walsh has never heard of'.

representing constituents, humanity, values, and the list goes on...and on...and

if a decision was made by the doctor or not to ignore her condition and force her to go through with it. My brother lived. It makes me so f***ing angry when idiots like Walsh say stupid things like this. They know nothing and care nothing for the suffering of people who have suffered tragedies because a woman in their life died because of an unhealthy pregnancy or childbirth.

I've always known there had to have been cases like this. It breaks my heart.

It's just so important that women retain the choice over their health and their bodies.

From a lifetime of being a woman.

My mother didn't "believe in" abortion either, but her generation at least knew all about post-miscarriage D&Cs, and the fact that a miscarriage gone wrong could cause you to die of infection or hemorrhage to death. She was pregnant 7 times in 9 years, with 4 healthy children as the outcome. One full-term stillbirth that she grieved for the rest of her life. Two early miscarriages, at least one of which nearly killed her with bleeding -- she once told me about her out of body experience on the surgical table: looking down at herself and the doctors from the corner of the ceiling, thinking about her two (at the time) children being orphans, and deciding to take that next breath....

Christ on a trailer hitch, I have come to hate the pro-birthers who think so little of women's lives.

A friend who, after escaping an abusive home at 17, conceived from a date-rape had to borrow money to fly to another state to abort her rapist's fetus.

A friend who was so happy at the end of her first trimester, anticipating her second child, until the nurse took a look and blurted, "What IS that on your cervix?!" before running to get the doc. It was a cancer so fast-growing that she was sent to a specialist for the complete hysterectomy immediately -- we lived in Honolulu and the specialist was in San Francisco. A Catholic friend asked me plaintively if "the baby" couldn't have been saved by her waiting to deliver first, and frankly that was the first time (1977) that I understood that so-called pro-lifers are nuts.

The pro-birthers do not care about women, not even a little bit. Even when they are constrained from condemning us to death with their laws, they condemn some of us to death just by their lies and ignorance.

Hekate

Those stories are many I have heard from dear friends of mine as well.

But this: The pro-birthers do not care about women, not even a little bit. Even when they are constrained from condemning us to death with their laws, they condemn some of us to death just by their lies and ignorance.

This is the absolute truth to EVERYTHING these people do.

she had an ectopic pregnancy , and YES , abortion did save my beloved childs life

This guy is a waste of space. Not worthy of each breath he takes.

I am one of those who had a baby after being told I might not live through it. I had an abortion when I was in my teens due to this fact. Later, when I was in my early 30's, I, with my doctor's support, decided to try and have a family. I knew the risks and was willing to take the chance at that time in my life. I could then afford to spend the entire pregnancy out of work if necessary. I survived my first baby and thought I could do the same with 2nd. Nope. I officially died twice on the table having my beautiful daughter. If I hadn't been close to a hospital, I wouldn't have survived. Any woman with my very rare condition who was not totally driven to have a family should not be made to have children as it is extremely dangerous to her health.

Akin is a total a## and doesn't appear to have 2 brain cells to rub together.

Paying your freakin' child support.

And as an L/D nurse, I know what saves women's lives when they have pre-eclampsia: delivery of the baby no matter the gestation. Modern science and technology can buy some time, but ultimately, the only known cure is delivery of the baby. Shall we discuss ectopic pregnancies? Lethal anomalies? Other health conditions that kill pregnant women? Jerk.

My daughter was having problems with her third pregnacy and she started bleeding. She lost over half the blood in her body and the doctor told her they needed to abort the baby to save her life. It took her a year to recover from this terrible ordeal. If the baby had not been aborted, two little girls would have lost their mother, a husband would have lost his wife and I would have lost my daughter.

Women, if you are in his district, do not under vote for him ever. He is a stupid jerk!

No, I'm not kidding.

One is too few--he has to have something to dread. That bastard would be curled up in the fetal position sobbing. I'll bet he'd propose a Constitutional Amendment to make heating pads & Midol unalienable rights and I'd love to throw in a pregnancy scare or 2 while I was at it...I'll bet he'd lose that smug, arrogant, ignorant condescension real quick.

A gal can dream, can't she?!?

Have a great weekend, DU!

I was unable to work for four days due to severe cramps , multiplied by 13 lunar months per year, so we're talking 52 days a year I could not work.

How can they live with a grown woman, presumably menstruating, getting pregnant, miscarrying or delivering a baby, and not know any of this stuff?

Next he's gonna say dermoid cysts and ovarian cysts need that personhood amendment.



I remember when Newt said women couldn't serve in the Army in trenches because after a month they would get "infections".

So Newt doesn't know the diff between normal menstruation and an abnormal infection.

I'll bet there are men living in monasteries who know more about women than these clowns.

the Constitution to require any candidate for public service to be able to stand erect to the extent the candidate is not required to walk on his or her knuckles.

Another vote in the Democratic column.

Read all those names of young women buried beside their infants. Most of those are prevented now with modern science AND abortion.

Probably not. Or how about three months of bleeding, nobody actually knowing that you are pregnant. Hey, you can just read my medical records for a variety of situations where the life of the mother was at risk. Walsh, Akin, go back to junior high sex ed. Oh right, you don't believe in sex ed. Why don't you just go back to from whence you came.

from an ectopic years ago--so these guys can just bite me. The Ignorance, it burns.

Get a brain, moran!

Blathering on about something he knows abso-fucking-lutely nothing about.

copying this from previous post...

Even with exceptions - MANY things will happen if abortions become illegal. These are in addition to the return of "back alley" abortions and women dying of horrible complications :

In honor of Sesame Street, do you remember the cartoon with the girl holding a balloon with a cat nearby when she ask "What would happen if I popped this balloon?" Here's what will happen if we pop the Rove v Wade balloon...

1.) The rich and well-connected will still have access to safe and discrete abortions.

2.) Some women who experience miscarriages and stillbirths will be subject to scrutiny. Imagine the miscreant Akin talking about a "legitimate miscarriage." Imagine prosecutors determining if there's enough evidence to press charges against a grieving woman.

3.) Some women who are raped will be accused of falsifying testimony in order to have an abortion.

4.) Some women who get pregnant through consensual sex will falsely accuse their partner of rape in order to have an abortion.

5.) More children will be born into loveless homes where they are neglected and abused.

6.) More children will be found cut up and stuffed in freezers or buried in shallow graves because their parent(s) (or grandparents or other caregiver) are not equipped to take care of them.

7.) The court system will be overwhelmed with contested cases and the clock will run out for many women that "qualify" for an abortion.

8.) Men will be widowers when they lose their wives to things like ectopic pregnancies (I bet Akin doesn't even know what that is) or treatable cancer. (If no medical exception.)

9.) Rapists' DNA will be passed on along (more than it already is) with all the mental illnesses that led to them being rapists in the first place. (Evolution is supposed to work against this but what do we expect if the lawmakers don't believe in evolution.)

10.) Worth repeating...The rich and well-connected will continue to have access to safe and discrete abortions.

I really think that the way to reduce abortions is to have insurance for all with contraception covered and a great prenatal care program; have a good low cost adoption system; have financial support for single women and low income families that provides a healthy and safe environment to raise a child and have community programs that supports kids and teens so that they are not left on their own while their parents are working.

keeping it legal in all cases would be necessary to assure that those women really do have access to abortion. If one has been raped or has a medical condition, the last thing a woman should have to do is have to go to court to have permission to have an abortion.
The best way to prevent "elective" abortion is to provide better support for pregnant women, mothers, and children.

Neo-Luddite Nazi swine repug freaks. The curses crowd my mouth.

...make me wish abortion was retroactive.

These guys always want to wip out 'science' to support their dark age mythology.

like the one Joe Walsh is from? A universe where science and technology to eliminate all risk and complication from pregnancy actually exists and nothing bad ever happens to anybody, especially not a woman or a growing fetus. Sadly, we're stuck here in this reality, and news-flash, Joe, so are you! You cannot just make this ignorant, dangerous stuff up just to try to get elected.

Come on, Illinois 8th District!! You need to vote this ass-hat out!