Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:42 PM
trailmonkee (2,595 posts)
68 Nobel Prize-Winning Scientists Endorse President Obama’s Science Policies
Source: center for american progress
The Center for American Progress Action Fund today received an open letter co-signed by 68 Nobel laureates in physics, chemistry, and medicine. The letter strongly endorses President Barack Obama’s science policies. “America’s economic future,” the letter begins, “depends on our ability to continue America’s proud legacy of discovery and invention.” In the letter the Nobel Prize-winning scientists contrast President Obama’s programs to train young Americans in science and technology, strengthen science-based decisionmaking in government, and increase investments in science and innovation, with Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s budget proposal, which would slash these investments. Indeed, according to the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget plan, which Gov. Romney endorsed, would invest fully one-quarter less in nondefense research and development compared to the president’s plan. “The Nobelists’ commitment to a prosperous future built on innovation is in the finest spirit of the Founding Fathers and expresses a core American value,” said Jonathan D. Moreno, Editor-in-Chief of Science Progress Action and Senior Fellow at CAP Action. “In this time of economic recovery, we must keep our eye on the horizon by investing in the science, technology, education, and workforce we need to stay on the cutting edge and compete in a world economy where success is increasingly determined by our ability to out-invent and out-innovate our competitor nations. Spanning several generations, the Nobelists are themselves fine examples of how public investments in science lead to a substantial return on our nation’s investment. James Watson, who won the Nobel Prize in 1962 at age 34 for his work on the way DNA and RNA work together to create proteins, is now 84, and Charles Townes, inventor of the precursor to the laser and winner of the prize in 1964, is now 97. Among the most recent winners of the prize is Robert Lefkowitz, who won the prize earlier this month for revealing the inner workings of an important family of receptors that govern how cells in the body communicate with one another. These are America’s most accomplished scientists, and their discoveries have led to real progress. Without James Watson’s discovery of the structure and function of DNA and RNA, we would not have a biotechnology industry that contributes nearly $1 trillion annually to the U.S. economy. And Charles Townes’s discovery of the maser, which later led to the laser, has touched nearly every industry and countless everyday products, from DVDs to LASIK eye surgery to precision manufacturing. Read more: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/technology/news/2012/10/17/41914/68-nobel-prize-winning-scientists-endorse-obamas-science-policies/
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| trailmonkee | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| freshwest | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| goclark | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| Cha | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| existentialist | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| silverweb | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| ellisonz | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| Beartracks | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| central scrutinizer | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| fujiyama | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| Bernardo de La Paz | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| JackN415 | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| trailmonkee | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| eyewall | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| lunatica | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| eyewall | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| Uncle Joe | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| bananas | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| bananas | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| JackN415 | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| JackN415 | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| trailmonkee | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| bananas | Oct 2012 | #21 |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:45 PM
freshwest (31,437 posts)
1. Will be denigrated by the RW in 3, 2, 1...
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:52 PM
goclark (30,404 posts)
2. Kick and R
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What a tribute to the deeds of our President
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:54 PM
Cha (124,546 posts)
3. Good! 'Cause mitthheadLies says the Science about
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global climate change is junk.
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Response to Cha (Reply #3)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:23 PM
existentialist (2,144 posts)
8. Which is among
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several hundred topics on which he has reversed himself.
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:01 PM
ellisonz (26,318 posts)
5. Science!
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Response to ellisonz (Reply #5)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:11 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,500 posts)
6. Why did I read that...
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and hear Thomas Dolby's voice in my head? Now it will be stuck there a while
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:22 PM
Beartracks (3,159 posts)
7. Instead of investing in America, rightwingers...
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... prefer to invest only in themselves.
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:53 AM
central scrutinizer (5,905 posts)
9. science, schmience!
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Joe the plumber is a better economist than any Nobel winner. You can't fool me, I'm too stupid!
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:03 AM
fujiyama (14,609 posts)
10. The REAL Noble prize winners!
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Economics wasn't even one of the original categories, and the Peace Prize is inherently too political to be given much objective value (I mean some of the people that received it - Kissinger? Arafat? And as much as I like Obama, it was barely into his presidency that he got one).
Of course, even in the sciences, there are plenty of disputes regarding the merit of the winner, but it's more difficult for the committee to justify giving it someone that didn't accomplish much... |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:02 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
11. Contrast 68 Nobels with the Republican Science Committee: Akin, Broun, Rohrabacher
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:28 AM
trailmonkee (2,595 posts)
12. have not seen on MSM tv yet... keep up the tweets
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:02 PM
eyewall (660 posts)
13. "What if it's a big hoax
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and we create a better world for nothing??"
-Joel Pett |
Response to eyewall (Reply #13)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:51 AM
lunatica (28,848 posts)
22. Oh Snap!
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I just stole it to use as my sig line! Great quote. |
Response to lunatica (Reply #22)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:32 PM
eyewall (660 posts)
23. It's a great cartoon and an international classic.
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Done during the UN climate change conference which republicans were berating as costly and irrelevant.
worth another look: ![]() |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:27 PM
Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)
14. Kicked and recommended.
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Thanks for the thread, trailmonkee.
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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:47 PM
bananas (20,162 posts)
15. NY Times: "Among Nobel laureates, President Obama appears to have won by a landslide."
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/nobel-laureates-endorse-obama/
October 18, 2012, 10:19 am 51 Comments Nobel Laureates Endorse Obama By KENNETH CHANG Among Nobel laureates, President Obama appears to have won by a landslide. Sixty-eight Nobel Prize winners in the science fields, including the two Americans who won this year’s chemistry prize, have signed a letter endorsing Mr. Obama over his Republican rival, Mitt Romney. “President Obama understands the key role science has played in building a prosperous America,” the laureates wrote in a letter that was released on Wednesday. Mr. Obama “has championed investment in science and technology research that is the engine of our economy.” The signers said that Mr. Romney, by contrast, “supports a budget that, if implemented, would devastate a long tradition of support for public research and investment in science at a time when this country’s future depends, as never before, on innovation.” In September, 2008, 61 American winners of a science Nobel — in medicine, physics or chemistry — signed a similar letter endorsing Mr. Obama over Senator John McCain, a number that rose to 76 by the end of October. <snip> They link to the letter here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/472355-an-open-letter-to-the-american-people.html |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:02 PM
bananas (20,162 posts)
16. Here's the text of the letter
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An Open Letter to the American People
America’s economic future, the quality of our health, and the quality of our environment depend on our ability to continue America’s proud legacy of discovery and invention. As winners of the Nobel Prizes in science, we are proud of our contribution to the extraordinary advances American science has made in recent years. But we’re deeply concerned that without leadership and continued commitment to scientific research the next generation of Americans will not make and benefit from future discoveries. President Obama understands the key role science has played in building a prosperous America, has delivered on his promise to renew our faith in science-based decision making and has championed investment in science and technology research that is the engine of our economy. He has built strong programs to educate young Americans in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics and programs to provide Americans the training they need to keep pace with a technology-driven economy. His opponent supports a budget that, if implemented, would devastate a long tradition of support for public research and investment in science at a time when this country’s future depends, as never before, on innovation. He has also taken positions that privilege ideology over clear scientific evidence on climate change. As a nation we must continue the investments that revolutionized agriculture, invented the Internet, gave us modern medicine and enabled a strong national defense. Abandoning this tradition would be a devastating step backwards. If you believe, as we do, that America’s future is bound in essential ways to science and innovation, we urge you to join us in working to ensure the reelection of President Obama. Alexei Abrikosov, Physics '03 Peter Agre, Chemistry '03 Sidney Altman, Chemistry, '89 Philip Anderson, Physics, '77 David Baltimore, Medicine '75 Paul Berg, Chemistry, '80 J. Michael Bishop, Medicine, '89 Elizabeth Blackburn, Medicine, '09 Günter Blobel, Medicine, '99 Nicolaas Bloembergen, Physics, '81 Linda Buck, Medicine, '04 Mario Capecchi, Medicine, '07 Martin Chalfie, Chemistry, '08 Leon Cooper, Physics, '72 James Cronin, Physics, '80 Robert Curl, Chemistry, '96 Johann Deisenhofer, Chemistry, '88 Edmond Fischer, Medicine, '92 Val Fitch, Physics, '80 Jerome Friedman, Physics, '90 Murray Gell-Mann, Physics, '69 Walter Gilbert, Chemistry, '80 Donald Glaser, Physics, '60 Sheldon Glashow, Physics, '79 Roy Glauber, Physics, '05 Joseph Goldstein, Medicine, '85 Paul Greengard, Medicine, '00 Carol Greider, Medicine, '09 David Gross, Physics, '04 Robert Grubbs, Chemistry, '05 Roger Guillemin, Medicine, '77 John Hall, Physics, '05 Leland Hartwell, Medicine, '01 Alan Heeger, Chemistry, '00 Dudley Herschbach, Chemistry, '86 Roald Hoffmann, Chemistry, '81 H. Robert Horvitz, Medicine, '02 David Hubel, Medicine, '81 Eric Kandel, Medicine, '00 Brian Kobilka, Chemistry, '12 Roger Kornberg, Chemistry, '06 Leon Lederman, Physics, '88 Robert Lefkowitz, Chemistry, '12 Rudy Marcus, Chemistry, '92 John Mather, Physics, '06 Craig Mello, Medicine, '06 Mario Molina, Chemistry, '95 Douglas Osheroff, Physics, '96 Arno Penzias, Physics, '78 Martin Perl, Physics, '95 David Politzer, Physics, '04 Stanley Prusiner, Medicine, '97 Burton Richter, Physics, '76 Richard Schrock, Chemistry, '05 Hamilton Smith, Medicine, '78 Oliver Smithies, Medicine, '07 George Smoot, Physics, '06 Thomas Steitz, Chemistry, '09 Jack Szostak, Medicine, '09 Joseph Taylor Jr, Physics, '93 Charles Townes, Physics, '64 Roger Tsien, Chemistry, '08 Daniel Tsui, Physics, '98 James Watson, Medicine, '62 Carl Wieman, Physics, '01 Eric Wieschaus, Medicine, '95 Frank Wilczek, Physics, '04 Robert Wilson, Physics, '78 The views expressed in this letter represent those of the signers acting as individual citizens. They do not necessarily represent the views of the institutions with which they are affiliated. The Medicine award is for "Physiology or Medicine." |
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:09 PM
JackN415 (743 posts)
17. It's a given. Never a surprise. Democrat is the party of rationalism.
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:29 PM
JackN415 (743 posts)
19. It's sad really...
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Last edited Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:47 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) Never a surprise. This is a given. But it is sad when scientists have to be drawn in the political process.
Once upon a time, we had a two party-system; they competed with each other for power, but both were reasonably rational and respected the progress and enlightenment of mankind. Natural science is fundamentally apolitical. They might have ribbed each other on economic policy, but even a man like Nixon could declare: "I am now a Keynesian." It signified rationalism, empiricism, embracing the truth and reality to formulate policy and take actions for progress, as opposed to being doctrinaire, dogmatic, and executing an agenda that adheres blindly to dangerous falsehood and beliefs with devastating consequence. It's the kind of folly and backwardness that we thought long gone and belongs only to human history. It's sad for the Country when the intelligentsia that is dedicated to truth and progress for human without any political agenda has to side with one party more than the other. The GOP today reminds us that 21st century America is not that far from Soviet Lysenkoism 80 years ago, with disastrous consequence to the people. The voters have very little choice now. |
Response to JackN415 (Reply #19)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:17 AM
trailmonkee (2,595 posts)
20. Obama probably feels the same way when he has to debate mittens..
Response to trailmonkee (Original post)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:55 AM
bananas (20,162 posts)
21. I was thinking, this is a real validation of Obama's choice for Science Advisor, John Holdren
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The fact that so many Nobel Laureates are in favor of Obama's policies indicates that Obama's been getting some pretty good advice.
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