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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:06 AM

highplainsdem (11,110 posts)

Joe Scarborough Criticizes Mitt Romney For 'Running Over' Candy Crowley, Obama At Debate (VIDEO)

Source: Huffington Post

Joe Scarborough criticized Mitt Romney for allegedly "running over" Candy Crowley and President Obama at Tuesday's debate.

Romney sparred with Crowley over the rules of the debate and speaking time. On Wednesday's "Morning Joe," Scarborough charged that Romney "came on way too strong" against Crowley and Obama. He said that Romney got two things wrong at the debate:

One, you don't run over a female moderator. You just don't. Stylistically you don't. It's very dangerous. Jim Lehrer, fine. You can get out a knife and, you know, have a knife fight with Jim Lehrer, fine. But you don't do that with a female moderator. It's problematic.

Secondly, you don't run over the president of the United States. Whether that president's a Republican or whether that president is a Democrat. There are independent voters who believe that a president should be treated with deference because he is the commander in chief.


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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/joe-scarborough-obama-romney-debate_n_1973135.html


His remarks start at about 2:35 in the 25-minute video.

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Reply Joe Scarborough Criticizes Mitt Romney For 'Running Over' Candy Crowley, Obama At Debate (VIDEO) (Original post)
 highplainsdem Oct 2012 OP
LineReply it wasn't allegedly
 still_one Oct 2012 #1
LineReply First, thank you Scarb. Second, I don't agree about "OK to run over Lehrer but not a woman"
 wordpix Oct 2012 #2
LineLineReply I keep wondering why they don't just turn off the mics
 primavera Oct 2012 #12
LineLineLineReply They could do it like IndyCar where you get several changes to boost your power
 BlueStreak Oct 2012 #16
LineLineLineLineReply Oooh, I like that idea!
 primavera Oct 2012 #18
LineLineLineLineReply Watching a lot of instant replay challenges ??
 AAO Oct 2012 #32
LineLineLineLineLineReply Excellent. Instant replay for fact checking.
 BlueStreak Oct 2012 #33
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply And 3 lies and you're out!
 AAO Oct 2012 #36
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Or like the NBA, 6 fouls and you head for the locker room
 BlueStreak Oct 2012 #37
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply That would be a nightmare.
 wtmusic Oct 2012 #41
LineLineLineLineReply And one 5-second HyperOverride, where you boost your volume by 90 decibels nt
 wtmusic Oct 2012 #42
LineLineNew Reply Yeah. I think Candy Crowley can take care of herself.
 Demoiselle Oct 2012 #46
LineLineNew Reply didn't you get Romney's memo?
 notadmblnd Oct 2012 #47
LineReply 'Cause us wimmens is delicate and we'll cry.
 nolabear Oct 2012 #3
LineLineNew Reply LOL
 MrsBrady Oct 2012 #51
LineReply I am getting a bit tired of this woman crap stuff
 all american girl Oct 2012 #4
LineLineReply but it's getting on my nerves.
 AlbertCat Oct 2012 #10
LineLineLineReply Ohhhhhhhh, you went there
 all american girl Oct 2012 #13
LineLineLineReply Oh snap!
 JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #15
LineReply It seems pretty obvious to me that Mitt doesn't respect Women
 formercia Oct 2012 #5
LineLineReply And women certainly picked up on that last night.
 stubtoe Oct 2012 #31
LineReply No need to worry about who got run over, it was not Crowley or Obama.
 gordianot Oct 2012 #6
LineReply Funny only the female moderator's have enforced the rules so far
 R Merm Oct 2012 #7
LineReply Joe also says several times
 Ineeda Oct 2012 #8
LineLineReply oh brother. Did Joe not notice that Romney did the same thing in the primaries??
 progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #30
LineLineReply Yesterday, the Rethug pundits were saying the townhall format
 Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #40
LineLineNew Reply In control? The only thing he lost control of was himself.
 JDPriestly Oct 2012 #50
LineReply Punishment for controlling the apple (accepted by Adam), women/Ms. Crowley, back to the binder
 DhhD Oct 2012 #9
LineReply Hell with woman, Mitty doesn't respect people. He respects the power they have - there's a
 toby jo Oct 2012 #11
LineReply Romney seems to be on something during the debates.
 JDPriestly Oct 2012 #14
LineLineReply What Hour Energy??
 Island Deac Oct 2012 #20
LineLineReply I agree...
 lexw Oct 2012 #21
LineLineLineReply Thanks. I have maintained that he seems drugged out. nt
 progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #29
LineLineReply Energy drinks you can't find on the BYU campus, to be sure
 Coyotl Oct 2012 #23
LineLineReply I've also noticed....
 vduhr Oct 2012 #26
LineReply Ran Over Everyone in the First Debate too
 bucolic_frolic Oct 2012 #17
LineLineNew Reply it's his true bully rich boy personality - the one he hides under his numerous flip flops
 wordpix Oct 2012 #52
LineReply It matters
 mgardener Oct 2012 #19
LineLineReply Agreed, and Welcome to DU
 Coyotl Oct 2012 #24
LineReply Romney Was In Full Nixon Mode
 DallasNE Oct 2012 #22
LineLineReply Because the Pres. was on his game this time, America saw what an asshole Romney is.
 progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #28
LineReply I am at lunch, and an old conservative just came in
 adigal Oct 2012 #25
LineLineReply Love it!
 jonthebru Oct 2012 #35
LineLineNew Reply old conservatives remember when the two parties at least respected each other
 madrchsod Oct 2012 #48
LineReply the debates need a live band, like Paul Schaefer. When Mitt won't stop.. cue the band.
 progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #27
LineLineReply Haha, High 5!
 Calypso0956 Oct 2012 #39
LineLineReply ...and a Drummer who delivers a Ka-Thump!!
 formercia Oct 2012 #43
LineLineLineNew Reply or some cowbell. nt
 grasswire Oct 2012 #49
LineReply Face it America
 jonthebru Oct 2012 #34
LineReply What gets me is all this talk about Mitt being better for the economy in that clip....
 Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #38
LineNew Reply Have to give "I.K." Scarborough his props when he's right!
 bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #44
LineNew Reply I hadn't watched that program in years. I tried it this morning. It is the most boring political
 patricia92243 Oct 2012 #45
LineLineNew Reply that's b/c Scarb is boring & Mika just rolls her eyes
 wordpix Oct 2012 #53

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:13 AM

Star Member still_one (31,430 posts)

1. it wasn't allegedly

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:14 AM

wordpix (12,502 posts)

2. First, thank you Scarb. Second, I don't agree about "OK to run over Lehrer but not a woman"

Campaign people request rules for the debates and negotiate ones all can agree on. Then Richie Rich gets to the debates and 5 min. in, throws the rules out the window. Ignoring the mod whoever it is, man or woman, is just bad manners and yells out, "The rules don't apply to me, the entitled rich guy who always gets his way."

I agree with the part about the president. Just be civil and polite---he does represent all US citizens due to his election, whoever it is (except in the case of W, who stole the election).

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Response to wordpix (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:29 AM

primavera (5,142 posts)

12. I keep wondering why they don't just turn off the mics

The candidates agree to the rules in advance, they promise to follow them, why should they have a problem agreeing to an automated system that switches off the mics at 2 minutes - like they agreed - unless they intend to break their promises and violate the rules they just agreed to? There would be nothing personal about it, the clock doesn't favor one candidate over the other, but when your two minutes are up, they're up, end of story. I understand that the stakes are high and candidates want to get their message out, so fine, you give them a ten second grace period after the timer runs out before the mics actually cut out. Of course, no one wants to interrupt a potentially important point, but, by the same token, these things are supposed to be fair debates between mature adults, not a childhood recess where the bully dominates the playground.

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Response to primavera (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:49 AM

Star Member BlueStreak (4,171 posts)

16. They could do it like IndyCar where you get several changes to boost your power

Make the mics cut off automatically at 2 minutes, but give each candidate a button that gives them 3 overrides of 15 seconds each. When you push that button you lock out all the other mics -- including the moderators -- and boost your own volume 5 decibels for 15 seconds. But you can anly do it three times in 90 minutes, so pick your spots wisely.

That would be cool.

Of course the next morning, the MSM would only be talking about who used their overrides the best -- and never get around to discussing the substance of what the candidates actually said.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:54 AM

primavera (5,142 posts)

18. Oooh, I like that idea!

I guess the problem would be that, if one were to impose such restrictions now, it would be perceived as a reactionary and prejudicial slam to Mittwit, since he's been the worst offender necessitating such extreme measures.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:46 AM

Star Member AAO (1,586 posts)

32. Watching a lot of instant replay challenges ??

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Response to AAO (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:01 PM

Star Member BlueStreak (4,171 posts)

33. Excellent. Instant replay for fact checking.

"OK, we have a challenge flag thrown by President Obama. Ms. Crowley is going under the 'fact checking hood' to decide this one. This is a close call. Did Governor Romney have complete possession of the facts, or was he completely out of bounds with that claim? Let's look at another camera angle on that one ..."

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:27 PM

Star Member AAO (1,586 posts)

36. And 3 lies and you're out!

Last edited Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:27 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

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Response to AAO (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:41 PM

Star Member BlueStreak (4,171 posts)

37. Or like the NBA, 6 fouls and you head for the locker room

Your VP candidate has to step in when you get the hook.

And then when Ryan tells his 6 lies, Obama gets the remaining 76 minutes to himself.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:08 PM

Star Member wtmusic (37,970 posts)

41. That would be a nightmare.

I can see it now...

"Who's doing the fact checking? What's their voting record? What's their source?"

Eeeeesh.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:10 PM

Star Member wtmusic (37,970 posts)

42. And one 5-second HyperOverride, where you boost your volume by 90 decibels nt

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Response to wordpix (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:24 PM

Star Member Demoiselle (5,863 posts)

46. Yeah. I think Candy Crowley can take care of herself.

I'd be inclined to bet on her in a match with Lehrer, too.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:28 PM

Star Member notadmblnd (17,168 posts)

47. didn't you get Romney's memo?

the rules are for the little people, not him. How dare you question him. don;t you know who he is? Hell, he ran a successful business for 25 years.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:15 AM

Star Member nolabear (15,017 posts)

3. 'Cause us wimmens is delicate and we'll cry.

You don't run over a female moderator because she will tell you to SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN!

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Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:40 AM

Star Member MrsBrady (4,054 posts)

51. LOL

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:19 AM

all american girl (325 posts)

4. I am getting a bit tired of this woman crap stuff

I don't think a person should run over any moderator....man or woman....we women can defend ourselves, we don't need a man to help us. Candy proved that a woman has no problem dealing with a bully....so.... shhhhh Joe, we can handle ourselves.

Sorry about the rant, but it's getting on my nerves.

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Response to all american girl (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:25 AM

Star Member AlbertCat (10,513 posts)

10. but it's getting on my nerves.

Mine too.

But I suppose one gets overly sensitive when dead women are found in one's office.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:31 AM

all american girl (325 posts)

13. Ohhhhhhhh, you went there

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:37 AM

Star Member JNelson6563 (24,832 posts)

15. Oh snap!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:20 AM

Star Member formercia (18,216 posts)

5. It seems pretty obvious to me that Mitt doesn't respect Women

Like the one Lady that asked him a question, and he then proceeds to ignore it and her, to talk about a completely different subject. She should have thrown a shoe at him for that diss.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:43 AM

stubtoe (1,854 posts)

31. And women certainly picked up on that last night.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:21 AM

Star Member gordianot (6,531 posts)

6. No need to worry about who got run over, it was not Crowley or Obama.

Romney like my neighbors late dog needs to learn not to chase semi's.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:22 AM

R Merm (82 posts)

7. Funny only the female moderator's have enforced the rules so far

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:22 AM

Star Member Ineeda (2,932 posts)

8. Joe also says several times

that the format threw rMoney off his game, ie: walking around. If he had been behind a podium he would have been more comfortable and more in control. (Yeah. In other words, he couldn't hide his crib notes while walking around the stage.)

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:38 AM

progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)

30. oh brother. Did Joe not notice that Romney did the same thing in the primaries??

He was standing behind a podium but would walk up to people, and grab them? He is like that all the time. Joe is delusional.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:44 PM

Dawson Leery (8,516 posts)

40. Yesterday, the Rethug pundits were saying the townhall format

would favor Romney.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:24 PM

Star Member JDPriestly (38,342 posts)

50. In control? The only thing he lost control of was himself.

But then Joe Scarborough thinks that a man doesn't need to control himself. That shows in the way he manages his show.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:25 AM

DhhD (774 posts)

9. Punishment for controlling the apple (accepted by Adam), women/Ms. Crowley, back to the binder

as mittens tried to make her go. Barack Obama reminded us several times of the love he has for his two daughters. Two very opposite projections.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:25 AM

toby jo (491 posts)

11. Hell with woman, Mitty doesn't respect people. He respects the power they have - there's a

difference.

If you can respect people, like Obama, and they have no power, you give them some of yours. When all you get is the power, you can piss on the people and it just won't matter to you.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:34 AM

Star Member JDPriestly (38,342 posts)

14. Romney seems to be on something during the debates.

Is it some sort of steroids or amphetamines or something?

He is too hepped up. That just can't be his normal personality. He is overly nervous and impatient. He can't wait his turn. He can't sit down.

We had a family reunion not so long ago. The under-fives were able to sit and be quiet longer than Romney.

This is very odd.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:57 AM

Island Deac (42 posts)

20. What Hour Energy??

Need to check for empty bottles of the 300 minute Energy Drink backstage.....

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:58 AM

lexw (804 posts)

21. I agree...

amphetamines of some sort, I think. His eyes were all red, too.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:37 AM

progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)

29. Thanks. I have maintained that he seems drugged out. nt

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:02 AM

Coyotl (5,403 posts)

23. Energy drinks you can't find on the BYU campus, to be sure

You know it isn't just chocolate

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:34 AM

vduhr (593 posts)

26. I've also noticed....

him licking his lips a lot. I saw him do it a lot during the first debate and a few times while he was on camera in the background in last nights debate. Maybe just really nervous, like Ryan drinking a lot of water?

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:54 AM

bucolic_frolic (730 posts)

17. Ran Over Everyone in the First Debate too

Seems like a religious narcissist proselytizer personality

on a couple too many cups of coffee

who can't accept boundaries

and is convinced it's his right to make the rules

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Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:50 AM

wordpix (12,502 posts)

52. it's his true bully rich boy personality - the one he hides under his numerous flip flops

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:55 AM

mgardener (80 posts)

19. It matters

It matters that you are nasty to both Men and Women.
Why do you need to do that. Bullies do that.
It matters that you disrespect the office of POTUS, especially if you are running for that same office.
Bullies do that.
It still matters that you lie, mitt Romney. You have not learned that lesson yet.
Who can trust you? Who will trust you?

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:03 AM

Coyotl (5,403 posts)

24. Agreed, and Welcome to DU

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:02 AM

DallasNE (3,061 posts)

22. Romney Was In Full Nixon Mode

Obnoxious and disrespectful. On style points Romney was awful, just like the first debate and for the same reason. There is no way around it, Romney is a real jerk.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:36 AM

progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)

28. Because the Pres. was on his game this time, America saw what an asshole Romney is.

And it's something that will stick. Now people will start noticing the videos of Romney treating EVERYONE that way.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:17 AM

adigal (4,717 posts)

25. I am at lunch, and an old conservative just came in

He asked me if I like Obama. He told me, shockingly, that he likes Obama too. He seems like a good, down to earth guy, and he really likes his wife. He said she has never embarrassed us and is a good woman. He said Mitt doesn't relate to real people.

Then he said Romney has it easy, because Obama has a record he can attack, and what has Romney done? Nothing.

Made my day.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:49 PM

jonthebru (989 posts)

35. Love it!

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:56 PM

Star Member madrchsod (55,895 posts)

48. old conservatives remember when the two parties at least respected each other

whether they agreed or not on the issues they at least put the country first.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:35 AM

progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)

27. the debates need a live band, like Paul Schaefer. When Mitt won't stop.. cue the band.

Perhaps playing "Liar" by 3 Dog Night, or "You're No Good" by Linda Rondstadt. Or just like the Academy Awards, cue the band when Romney won't shut up, and send a couple women in evening gowns out to return him to his seat.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:11 PM

Calypso0956 (88 posts)

39. Haha, High 5!

Good idea!

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:58 PM

Star Member formercia (18,216 posts)

43. ...and a Drummer who delivers a Ka-Thump!!

on a good delivery.

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 09:51 PM

grasswire (36,887 posts)

49. or some cowbell. nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:48 PM

jonthebru (989 posts)

34. Face it America

Mittens Rmoney is an ass. If he becomes President we will have an asshole as President and America will have what she deserves.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:46 PM

Star Member Spitfire of ATJ (7,881 posts)

38. What gets me is all this talk about Mitt being better for the economy in that clip....

.....as if it's a given that Obama has been a failure on the economy when Republicans have blocked every jobs bill even one for veterans.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:16 PM

Star Member bullwinkle428 (11,409 posts)

44. Have to give "I.K." Scarborough his props when he's right!

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:40 PM

Star Member patricia92243 (7,569 posts)

45. I hadn't watched that program in years. I tried it this morning. It is the most boring political

program I have ever seen or heard. How he stays on the air is a mystery to me.

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Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:51 AM

wordpix (12,502 posts)

53. that's b/c Scarb is boring & Mika just rolls her eyes

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