Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:19 PM
dipsydoodle (32,649 posts)
Syrian crisis: Iran asked to help secure ceasefire
Source: Guardian
Iran has been asked to persuade the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, to implement a ceasefire later this month in tandem with an appeal by the UN to halt the flow of weapons to both sides in the country's bloody conflict. Lakhdar Brahimi, the envoy for the UN and Arab League, used a weekend visit to Iran, a loyal ally of Damascus, to appeal for help in securing a ceasefire to mark Eid al-Adha, the four-day Muslim holiday later this month. In Baghdad on Monday he called on the Iraqi government to use its influence, while Nuri al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, called for a speedy "political solution". Brahimi said a ceasefire would "help create an environment that would allow a political process to develop", said his spokesman, Ahmad Fawzi. But Fawzi denied a report that plans were afoot to send a 3,000-strong UN peacekeeping force to Syria, drawn from an existing UN contingent in south Lebanon. EU officials dismissed the idea as far-fetched, because it would first require a durable ceasefire and moves towards a political transition — both of which have proved elusive over the 19 months of the crisis. Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/15/syrian-crisis-iran-help-ceasefire
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11 replies, 1271 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| dipsydoodle | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| oberliner | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| riderinthestorm | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| pscot | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| Fantastic Anarchist | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| bemildred | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| pscot | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| bemildred | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| Fantastic Anarchist | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| bemildred | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| arewenotdemo | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| Comrade Grumpy | Oct 2012 | #11 |
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:24 PM
oberliner (22,141 posts)
1. Anyone get the feeling Assad will find a way to hold on to power here?
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Folks think he will be able to ride this out?
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Response to oberliner (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:51 PM
riderinthestorm (13,166 posts)
7. Its impossible to predict. Honestly. Assad has maybe a 50/50 chance of staying imho at this point
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Its just too impossible to tell because of the muddied waters of whose helping him and whose helping the rebels.
Iran, China and Russia are very, very powerful friends in the region. Assad actually also does have/did have a pretty significant population of Syrians who support him. He's also supremely aware that if he's forced out/killed/assassinated, it will most likely inflame the regional civil war into a genocidal bloodbath. |
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:35 PM
pscot (13,919 posts)
2. The choices seem to be
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Last edited Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:36 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Assad or Radical Islam. A Shia dictator or the Taliban.
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Response to pscot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:41 PM
Fantastic Anarchist (2,339 posts)
3. I don't think Assad is a Shia.
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I think he's Alawite. Though, I could be wrong.
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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #3)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:44 PM
bemildred (67,505 posts)
4. Alawite is Shi'ia, though people will quibble.
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And he is Alawite, or so they say.
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Response to bemildred (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:49 PM
pscot (13,919 posts)
6. One man's Mede
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is another man's Persian, of so I've heard.
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Response to pscot (Reply #6)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:10 PM
bemildred (67,505 posts)
8. Yes.
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I had a guy correct me when I talked about Persians in reference to Iran. "This is about Iran, not Persia." or something like that. Needless to say, that was the end of that conversation.
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Response to bemildred (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:11 PM
Fantastic Anarchist (2,339 posts)
9. Thanks for the correction. n/t
Response to pscot (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:47 PM
bemildred (67,505 posts)
5. Actually, I think the result will be the end of Syria as it is now,
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replaced by several successor states, autonomous regions, and whatnot to be determined. Something like what we precipitated in Iraq, with the side note that Syria is even more fragmented culturally.
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Response to pscot (Reply #2)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:43 AM
arewenotdemo (2,104 posts)
10. I don't know why that's a tough choice at all.
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Last edited Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:48 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) We should be supporting Assad.
Unless, of course, the object is to secure Israel by dissolving every Arab state in the region, thereby fulfilling the Wolfowitz neocon fantasy. Jesus, Obama. |
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:13 AM
Comrade Grumpy (3,381 posts)
11. It takes both sides actually ceasing fire to have a cease fire.
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Any indication the rebels are down with that?
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