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Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:03 PM

David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE)

Source: huffington post



The super-rich guy who claims he’s the one who got George W. Bush elected is doing everything he can to make sure Mitt Romney wins in November too.

David Siegel, the founder and CEO of giant timeshare company Westgate resorts, sent an opus-like email to his workers, railing against one-percent bashing and arguing that the president’s reelection would “threaten your job.” In the email, obtained by Gawker, Siegel goes on to write:

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company.
Siegel has a history of injecting himself in to critical political events. In the “The Queen of Versailles,” the documentary chronicling Siegel’s quest to obnoxiously build the biggest house in America, the Florida real estate mogul claims he was “personally responsible” for George W. Bush’s 2000 presidential victory. He also goes on to say that his tactics for helping Bush win “may not necessarily have been legal.”

Siegel isn’t the first CEO to push his political preferences on his employees. Bob Murray, CEO of coal company Murray Energy, allegedly pressured his workers to donate money to the Romney campaign. Murray energy workers have also accused the company of forcing them to participate in a pro-Romney rally, give up a day’s worth of pay and face the possibility of getting fired if they didn’t.

And Richard Lacks, CEO of car parts manufacturer Lacks Enterprises, urged his employees to vote for Romney on the basis of the claim that four more years of Obama would mean a boost in taxes and a decrease in pay. Talk about rocking the vote.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/david-siegel-email_n_1951801.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

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Reply David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE) (Original post)
trailmonkee Oct 2012 OP
NYtoBush-Drop Dead Oct 2012 #1
bamacrat Oct 2012 #3
abelenkpe Oct 2012 #29
leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #2
Yo_Mama Oct 2012 #47
BlueStreak Oct 2012 #54
Yo_Mama Oct 2012 #56
BlueStreak Oct 2012 #57
kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #58
KansDem Oct 2012 #4
arcane1 Oct 2012 #5
kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #33
Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #6
Blanks Oct 2012 #14
abelenkpe Oct 2012 #31
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #59
wordpix Oct 2012 #50
skypilot Oct 2012 #7
Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #44
patrice Oct 2012 #8
JDPriestly Oct 2012 #9
tjcheem Oct 2012 #64
Mz Pip Oct 2012 #10
ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2012 #11
rhett o rick Oct 2012 #22
ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2012 #23
rhett o rick Oct 2012 #25
ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2012 #27
jmowreader Oct 2012 #26
madaboutharry Oct 2012 #30
crunch60 Oct 2012 #43
wordpix Oct 2012 #51
EC Oct 2012 #12
AAO Oct 2012 #16
Panasonic Oct 2012 #13
Stainless Oct 2012 #15
Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2012 #17
MindMover Oct 2012 #18
ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #19
allan01 Oct 2012 #20
Evasporque Oct 2012 #21
SoapBox Oct 2012 #24
jmowreader Oct 2012 #28
Ash_F Oct 2012 #62
kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #32
Ilsa Oct 2012 #34
trailmonkee Oct 2012 #35
Populist_Prole Oct 2012 #36
chowder66 Oct 2012 #37
wordpix Oct 2012 #52
2Design Oct 2012 #38
jsr Oct 2012 #39
bluestateguy Oct 2012 #40
Tx4obama Oct 2012 #41
SoCalDemGrrl Oct 2012 #42
hughee99 Oct 2012 #49
BlueStreak Oct 2012 #53
adicortez Oct 2012 #45
steve2470 Oct 2012 #46
SemperEadem Oct 2012 #48
randome Oct 2012 #55
DeSwiss Oct 2012 #60
tonekat Oct 2012 #61
Sadiedog Oct 2012 #63

Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:05 PM

1. fuck this guy.

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Response to NYtoBush-Drop Dead (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:10 PM

3. +1

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Response to NYtoBush-Drop Dead (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:44 PM

29. +1000

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:09 PM

2. why isnt threatening an employee illegal? what if they all vote for rmoney and potus still wins

 

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:04 AM

47. It cuts both ways

When Clinton ran, a bunch of companies told their employees to vote for him based on his Wall Street lobbying.

I know - I worked for one of them. CAP Gemini. Not only did they send the memo, the managers were going around and talking to employees about it. The message was very clear - we will do well if this guy gets in, you will keep your jobs and get bigger raises.

FMC used to tell its employees who they wanted. I recall sitting in the office in the 80s when the memo came around that time. I still remember the expression on the face of the man I was working with (I didn't work for the company - I was just doing some work at the company). It's not just on the Republican side. Both parties lobby the big firms and the Street. In general, the Democratic party does at least as well at this as the GOP.

I think it's unethical, and ultimately counter-productive. Judging from the way I felt about it, this utterly crass idiot just created some new Obama voters. Even when I wanted to vote for the company's "preferred" candidate, getting that advice always used to make me reconsider my vote.

It isn't illegal, because after all they cannot know how you voted. So they cannot extort your vote, or take reprisals against you for your vote.

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Response to Yo_Mama (Reply #47)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:55 AM

54. The Obama campaign should send this guy a thank-you note

If you received this letter from this jerk, what would you do when you got into the privacy of the voting booth?

His letter will be a net gain in votes for Obama, and might be the factor that convinces some of them to turn out to vote, just to put the screws to this guy. It is hard to believe there would be much loyalty in his work force.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #54)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:53 PM

56. That is what I think.

Doesn't reading this make you want to go out and vote twice for Obama? Seriously, this is so obnoxious that it's almost funny. What type of arrogant idiot would be dumb enough to send this to their employees?

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Response to Yo_Mama (Reply #56)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:48 PM

57. This type.

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:49 AM

58. Timeshares are going under big time so he is setting the stage to blame Obama

if he is re-elected. Truth is, he's probably already trying to file bankruptcy because of the loss of timeshare business because of their scams and bait and switch tactics.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:11 PM

4. Extortion

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company.

This is horseshit, pure and simple. As a capitalist, he will hire the number of workers required to keep his business going and cutting taxes on the middle class will assure there are consumers for his goods and services. That's what will build his business.

He sounds like the standard plutocratic crybaby...

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:13 PM

5. Real classy, laying people off if your personal income tax increases

How will he ever get by on only 10 billion?

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:02 PM

33. So, these are the super rich patriots we have to deal with?

They love this country so much they are willing to hurt the citizens in order to save the nation. People need to wake up to the what and who is really hurting this country. It's the corrupt, scamming billionaires like the thug. If anyone has ever dealt with a
timeshare you know how corrupt, deceiving, and heartless they are. I am sure that there are many,many hard working voting families out there who need to know that this sumbag supports Romney. I am sure many voters have been hurt by this industry which preys heavily on middle low income families promising vacations they think they can't afford otherwise. Two members of my family have suffered loss as a result of hooking up with this company. And they take great pride in wreaking your credit rating. I wish there was some way to put his threat in an add and link it to the entire GOP, not just Romney.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:16 PM

6. Is that his wife or his mistress?

She reminds me of a young Ma Kettle. Their cluttered, opulent home reminds me of the Clampetts after they moved to California.

In better times, it would be funny if all his employees walked out and left him high and dry.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:53 PM

14. She must be kin to Michelle Bachmann

What a bizarre expression.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:48 PM

31. A general strike is the only thing that is going to change a world that

will soon all be controlled by jerks like this. Not that that will ever happen.


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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:17 AM

59. 'Workers of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but

 

your chains."

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels

Never say 'never'. With regard to this shitstain, I would settle for a wildcat strike of only his company's employees walking out or, better yet, engaging in a sit-down occupation of his offices.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:46 AM

50. Mr. Clampett's chair is his "king" seat from which he issues his edicts -the wife doesn't look happy

either

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:16 PM

7. Ugh!!

This prick's afraid that he won't make enough money to finish that 90,000 square feet monstrosity that he was determined to build for himself and his trashy family. I saw the movie about him and his wife and I just came out thinking that they are the epitome of what is wrong with this country. That ugly chair he's sitting in tells you everything you need to know about this guy.

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Response to skypilot (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 05:02 AM

44. It's all so odd in there. Good grief! Has he ever heard of quiet good taste?

What he's got is a wreck. Tacky. Most people would be embarrassed to have that junk in their homes.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:21 PM

8. Welcome to the red-state world, where you CAN lose your job for your political understandings. nt

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:25 PM

9. When your employer can fire you because you don't contribute and vote to his candidates,

you're a slave.

You need to fire your employer.

So much for free enterprise. I have supported the idea all my life and now in my old age seeing what is going on in this country, I wonder if I have been wrong. Private businesses make so many messes, such chaos and impoverish people. I'm sorry, but this is just wrong.

What a mess.

We need desperately to raise inheritance taxes on large estates. We need to raise taxes on the rich as soon as possible and as much as possible.

No individual in our society should have or think he has as much power as this man thinks he has. You can't call a political system a democracy or even a republic when one person can threaten people or dares to threaten people in that way.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:27 PM

10. Those boobs aren't real n/t

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:28 PM

11. first two things I noticed, too.

as trophy wives go, his came in third.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:22 PM

22. They are in the picture to distract the weak minded. Looks like it worked.

Just kidding.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:28 PM

23. what was the issue?

Oh, I'm so . . . . would you look at those! They can't be real!

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:39 PM

25. Try it with 3-D glasses.

I am backing out of this conversation before I get myself into trouble.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:43 PM

27. LOL!

threats like his must really piss people off. And scare them, if their real feelings come out.

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:41 PM

26. Neither is her face

She's had quite a bit of work: lip injections, cheek implants, a chin implant, her eyes have been done, there's a couple of facelifts in there...and none of it really helped because she's not that great looking.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #26)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:47 PM

30. That was the first thought that came into my mind.

She looks like she has spent a lot of time on Joan Rivers Avenue.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 03:48 AM

43. She is slowly turning into the ....Bionic woman!

 

And after a while, nothing will help her, not her enormous wealth or her plastic surgeons. Hope the kids have a better grip on reality, and care about more meaningful things, rather than the size of their clothes closet.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:48 AM

51. it's her unhappy countenance that makes her unattractive + her partner

is not a good looking adornment

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:45 PM

12. Isn't this discrimination?

This has to be illegal somehow.

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Response to EC (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:55 PM

16. Electoral fraud

 

1.2 Intimidation

Intimidation

Voter intimidation involves putting undue pressure on a voter or group of voters so that they will vote a particular way, or not at all. Absentee and other remote voting can be more open to some forms of intimidation as the voter does not have the protection and privacy of the polling location. Intimidation can take a range of forms.

Economic threats: In company towns in which one company employs most of the working population, the company may threaten workers with disciplinary action if they do not vote the way their employer dictates. One method of doing this is the 'shoe polish method'. This method entails coating the voting machine's lever or button of the opposing candidate(s) with shoe polish. This method works when an employee of a company that orders him to vote a certain way votes contrary to those orders. After the voter exits the voting booth, a conspirator to the fraud (a precinct captain or other local person in collusion with the employee's management) handshakes the voter. The conspirator, then, subtly checks the voter's hands for any shoe polish or notes. If the conspirator finds shoe polish or notes in the voter's hands, then that unfortunate voter gets fired or faces other unpleasant consequences.














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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:46 PM

13. Add this moron to the indictment list

 

Along with Koch Brothers, Adelson, Romney and many other crooks.

Hey Adler - Chimp was illegitimate, and you are going to pay.

Big time.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:54 PM

15. Monkey Wrenching or..........

Workplace Sabotage would definitely be on my agenda if I worked for this prick. Threaten my job and the destruction of his business would be my only goal if I was one of his workers.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:57 PM

17. So one of the biggest scam artists in the scammyest of all scammy businesses tells another lie.

Timeshare salesman lies - Film at eleven.

So the solution to netting a few percentage points less AFTER taxes is to decrease PRE-TAX profits?

Fuck you, you liar.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:01 PM

18. DINOSAUR ....

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:01 PM

19. Why we need UNIONS. Example #1. n/t

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:15 PM

20. re:David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE)

we are in the guilded age part 2. what we need is another titanic . remember the titanic .took out allmost all of the rich and poor on her. these selfish so and sos . throwing a temper tantrum because he wont get a tax reduction , whilst we support him we the middle class get hurt .and no one gives a rats ass about the poor. on april 15th 1912 @ 1:15 am ,our age woke up with a bang. 1st officer boxhall. titanic.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:19 PM

21. Look at the that dick cheese throne he is sitting in!!!

BWAAHAHAHAHAHA what charlatan...

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:34 PM

24. ...asshole.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:44 PM

28. Seriously, guys, what kind of a loser buys a timeshare anyway?

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #28)

Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:28 AM

62. A co-worker of mine.

He's also a Romney voter.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:50 PM

32. That photo is proof that money can't buy class.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:25 PM

34. He's a perfect example of why the ultra

wealthy need to be soaked with taxes. No one should have so much wealth that they get to control our democracy. Same thing with estate taxes.

Fuck him and Mrs. Boobs.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #34)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:54 PM

35. exactly... they are a perfect example

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 06:13 PM

36. Holy shite. Talk about a sore winner!

That ass acts like he's actually trying to be a caricature of an arch typical rich prick sore winner.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 06:17 PM

37. He also goes on to say that his tactics for helping Bush win “may not necessarily have been legal.”

hmmmm. DOJ?

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:50 AM

52. definitely needs to be questioned by DOJ and FBI - sounds like treason

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:12 PM

38. His company and product have very negative reputation in the timeshare community n/t

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:37 PM

39. How is he going to monitor his employees at the voting booths?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:33 PM

40. Nixon or LBJ would not have tolerated that bullshit

They would have sent the IRS to audit him and his businesses.

I'll just leave it at that.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:09 PM

41. The Queen of Versailles Official Trailer : Riches to Rags With Jackie & David Siegel - video






And watch this one too, it has their current house and future house:




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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 01:33 AM

42. BOYCOTT - BOYCOTT Westgate Properties -this guy is an idiot

he represents everything that is wrong in a society that cow tows to the 1% - Mitt Romney's world.

Oh God please save us from these plutocrats!!! All that is missing in the byline is a reference to

royalty as this asshole reclines in a golden throne surrounded by his very own (purchased) princess

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Response to SoCalDemGrrl (Reply #42)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:30 AM

49. Amen. We should boycott his properties for threatening to fire his employees...

so that the loss of business will cause him to... fire his employees.

If this guy fires his employees, his competitors will hire them to pick up the work that this guy loses, as long as his business sector remains solid. And maybe then, they won't be working for this asshole.

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Response to SoCalDemGrrl (Reply #42)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:52 AM

53. All timeshares are ripoffs

The annual cost if about twice what you would pay if you just booked a nice hotel in the same area. And then you are stuck with this obligation forever. One of the world's great scams.

Boycott ALL timeshares, not just this guy. It is safe to assume all the operators are just as sleazy as this one.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 05:13 AM

45. How is this bully going to know HOW his employees voted? Sodium pentathol?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:44 AM

46. a stain on the Orlando area nt

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:29 AM

48. clearly, money don't buy brains...

but it will buy bad taste, boobs and lipo...

well, when Obama does win and he does lay off those employees and they file for unemployment, he has cut the legs out from under his reasons for doing so by going public with it. It's called "premeditation". It's going to be hard for him to contest their claims when he's on the record saying that he's going to lay people off if the president is re-elected. So he's going to end up paying anyway.

Stupid fuck.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:59 AM

55. If he's CEO, does he have a board of directors who might object to his bullshit?

Or shareholders?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:20 AM

60. Is it me???

Or do they have almost identical foreheads???

- Aside from being hateful morons, naturally.......

K&R

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:38 AM

61. Rodney Richpigge Wants a Free Ride?

Well, screw him. I hope every one of his employees votes for Obama.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:14 PM

63. trickle up!

It amazes me that people like this jerk have not figured out that trickle down is their enemy too. The only way for everyone to have a booming economy is when the middle class is healthy and has extra to spend. Then rather than trickle down it would trickle up down and sideways. Just my two cents and simplistic I kno

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