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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:43 AM

Star Member onehandle (35,409 posts)

Jim Lehrer Debate Moderating Performance Savaged

Source: Huffington Post

"I'm not going to say I've done a poor job..."

That was Jim Lehrer's assessment of his performance as the moderator of the first presidential debate of the 2012 election. Sadly for him, many disagreed.

It was Lehrer's 12th time moderating, but he was largely unsuccessful in his attempts to corral the candidates. Both President Obama and Mitt Romney rolled right over him as, with increasing plaintiveness, he tried to get them to stop talking. "No, no, no," he said to Romney at one point. Romney didn't listen.

By the end of the debate, Obama and Romney had taken so much free time that Lehrer had to inform them that they would not get to one of the 15-minute segments he had intended to moderate.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/03/jim-lehrer-debate-moderator-reviews_n_1937896.html

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Reply Jim Lehrer Debate Moderating Performance Savaged (Original post)
 onehandle Oct 2012 OP
LineReply I hope there are criticisms of the debaters for violating the time limits too
 Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #1
LineReply I hope it's the LAST TIME
 LibGranny Oct 2012 #2
LineLineReply Yep...
 skeewee08 Oct 2012 #4
LineLineReply Predictable And Predicted
 DallasNE Oct 2012 #6
LineLineLineReply His inability to control the debate...
 awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #12
LineLineLineLineReply This Was His 12th Debate As Moderator
 DallasNE Oct 2012 #17
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply that is not the only thing that has changed over the years
 magical thyme Oct 2012 #33
LineLineLineReply The debates .....
 AnneD Oct 2012 #13
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Did they pull out...
 awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #29
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply They pulled out.
 Frank Cannon Oct 2012 #30
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Truer words were never spoken.....
 AnneD Oct 2012 #32
LineLineLineReply and then there's Candy Crowley (CNN's
 LibGranny Oct 2012 #24
LineReply Lehrer needs to retire from journalism
 Panasonic Oct 2012 #3
LineLineNew Reply +1
 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #26
LineReply There was no moderating.
 mainstreetonce Oct 2012 #5
LineReply years of moderating the opposing views of the AEI & Herritage, Cato sock puppets
 mulsh Oct 2012 #7
LineReply A moderator who doesn't hold the microphone switch is powerless.
 lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #8
LineLineReply This.
 PavePusher Oct 2012 #19
LineReply And guess who's 'moderating' the next debate...
 FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #9
LineLineReply Oh, FFS.
 onehandle Oct 2012 #10
LineLineLineReply I have said that the present day moderators influence the debate tone completely
 BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #15
LineLineReply Fortunately it's a town hall format debate
 Panasonic Oct 2012 #16
LineLineReply Ohhhh!!!!! Shit!!!!
 LongTomH Oct 2012 #18
LineLineReply oh, she'll make sure mittiot gets all the time in the world
 SemperEadem Oct 2012 #21
LineReply The mods need one of those canned HORNS!
 SoapBox Oct 2012 #11
LineLineReply A warning beep and then the mic is switched off ten seconds later.
 alphafemale Oct 2012 #23
LineLineLineNew Reply Seems like a simple enough solution to me.
 Frank Cannon Oct 2012 #31
LineReply I'm not blaming Lehrer
 magic59 Oct 2012 #14
LineReply Fine. I will say it
 SemperEadem Oct 2012 #20
LineLineNew Reply hahaha, and Chris really got under Ghouleyani's skin
 wordpix Oct 2012 #27
LineReply WTF???
 StarryNite Oct 2012 #22
LineNew Reply Simple solution. Turn off their mics when their time is up. Full stop.
 joshcryer Oct 2012 #25
LineLineNew Reply This. Exactly. ^^
 Indpndnt Oct 2012 #34
LineNew Reply Let an elementary school teacher moderate
 ThoughtCriminal Oct 2012 #28

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:45 AM

Gormy Cuss (26,658 posts)

1. I hope there are criticisms of the debaters for violating the time limits too

although to be fair, Romney's the one who started it and exploited it the most.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:47 AM

LibGranny (468 posts)

2. I hope it's the LAST TIME

Lehrer's is afforded the opportunity to be a "moderator"! He was astoundingly TERRIBLE! He had no control whatsoever and, in my opinion, totally dissed the President!

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:49 AM

Star Member skeewee08 (1,892 posts)

4. Yep...

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:52 AM

DallasNE (2,950 posts)

6. Predictable And Predicted

When the 3 moderators were announced I said that both Lehrer and Schieffer were terrible choices because they are too old to be able to control the debate. I was proven correct regarding Lehrer and will be proven correct with Schieffer. Both should have retired at least 5 years ago. The losers are the American people.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:26 PM

Star Member awoke_in_2003 (18,498 posts)

12. His inability to control the debate...

has nothing to do with his age.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:41 PM

DallasNE (2,950 posts)

17. This Was His 12th Debate As Moderator

And by far his worst. What has changed is his age. That made it predictable that it would be his worst.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 04:00 PM

magical thyme (4,047 posts)

33. that is not the only thing that has changed over the years

In tandem with its push to the right, the GOP has become increasingly bellicose and boorish. Or have you not noticed the talk shows where whoever talks loudest, incessantly, interrupts the most and doesn't allow the opposition to state their side "wins?"

Pres O did what he had to and nothing more.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:33 PM

AnneD (14,841 posts)

13. The debates .....

have devolved into nothing more than infomercials since the League of Women voters pulled out.

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Response to AnneD (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:38 PM

Star Member awoke_in_2003 (18,498 posts)

29. Did they pull out...

or were they forced out?

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Fri Oct 5, 2012, 05:18 AM

Frank Cannon (6,191 posts)

30. They pulled out.

Last edited Fri Oct 5, 2012, 05:19 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

They were tired of the demands the campaigns were placing on them, and they issued a press release in 1988 saying they didn't want to be party to "perpetrate a fraud on the American voter."

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Fri Oct 5, 2012, 03:48 PM

AnneD (14,841 posts)

32. Truer words were never spoken.....

I am old enough to remember when debates were an exchange and comparison of ideas. I always got a copy of the LOWV election guideline. I checked the candidates and their position and went in with my filled out ballot. I was what every democracy needs, an educated voter. It is increasingly time consuming to make intelligent choices, but it is my duty as a citizen.

I miss the League of Women Voters.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:26 PM

LibGranny (468 posts)

24. and then there's Candy Crowley (CNN's

right wing broadcaster) to moderate another one.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:48 AM

Star Member Panasonic (2,921 posts)

3. Lehrer needs to retire from journalism

 

Shut everything down, and quit.

If he can't control Mitt during a debate, why bother?

Hell, replace him with Rachel Maddow, and she'll make sure Mitt will shut up when he's supposed to.

In other words, the Commission needs to rethink their moderators.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:46 PM

hrmjustin (9,026 posts)

26. +1

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:51 AM

Star Member mainstreetonce (405 posts)

5. There was no moderating.

He was the real loser

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:01 PM

mulsh (1,904 posts)

7. years of moderating the opposing views of the AEI & Herritage, Cato sock puppets

have taken their toll on Mr. Lerher.

I stopped watching The News Hour's talking head rodeo a few years ago when it began to be mostly conservative/libertarian unemployable think tank shills

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:11 PM

Star Member lumberjack_jeff (24,524 posts)

8. A moderator who doesn't hold the microphone switch is powerless.

If the microphone switches are two 6" diameter bright red panic buttons affixed to the top of the moderator's podium, he or she would be better able to enforce the rules.

No need to whine, complain or negotiate. It's been 180 seconds, your time is up.

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Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:39 PM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

19. This.

 

You beat me too it. Why is this difficult to figure out? Hell, simply put them on an automatic timer. Hit the button, time starts and your mic goes live. Two minutes is up and your mic goes dead. Put a cheap LCD clock in the circuit on each podium for pacing.

Fuck me, let's join the goddamn mid-20th century already, eh?

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:11 PM

Star Member FailureToCommunicate (4,399 posts)

9. And guess who's 'moderating' the next debate...

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:14 PM

Star Member onehandle (35,409 posts)

10. Oh, FFS.

Kill me now.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:40 PM

Star Member BumRushDaShow (11,955 posts)

15. I have said that the present day moderators influence the debate tone completely

I still refuse to forgive Stupidfuckidous for his "flag pin" bullshit on 2008. Creepy Crawly will be worse.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:40 PM

Star Member Panasonic (2,921 posts)

16. Fortunately it's a town hall format debate

 

Candy Crowley will be ignored.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:48 PM

Star Member LongTomH (3,994 posts)

18. Ohhhh!!!!! Shit!!!!

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:46 PM

Star Member SemperEadem (7,996 posts)

21. oh, she'll make sure mittiot gets all the time in the world

and she will interrupt the president long before his allotted time is up. She does it every week on her sunday talking head show. I hate having to edit her stuff because she doesn't know when to shut her effin' trap.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:18 PM

SoapBox (5,812 posts)

11. The mods need one of those canned HORNS!

Or a GONG...something...anything!!!

Mittens was just outright disrespectful, trying to take over the host job AND lecture America.

...arrogant asshole.

And now he admits he lied.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:54 PM

Star Member alphafemale (13,263 posts)

23. A warning beep and then the mic is switched off ten seconds later.

Easy.

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Fri Oct 5, 2012, 05:22 AM

Frank Cannon (6,191 posts)

31. Seems like a simple enough solution to me.

Maybe also have an orchestra play them off like they do at the Academy Awards.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:35 PM

magic59 (429 posts)

14. I'm not blaming Lehrer

 

When dealing with a flim flam man all rules fly out the door. Mitt is experienced in the art of BS to an extent that he probably has a doctorate of BS. He out bullied and lied his way through the whole non-debate. The president, sad sack, wasn't much help either.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:43 PM

Star Member SemperEadem (7,996 posts)

20. Fine. I will say it

You did a poor job. A really poor job. You were being way too gentlemanly. You needed to shut down mittiot and you let him hold you down and cut your hair.

Who they needed to moderate the debate was Chris Hayes. The way he shut down rudy giuliani after the debate program last night was a thing of beauty.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:56 PM

wordpix (12,478 posts)

27. hahaha, and Chris really got under Ghouleyani's skin

It was so great, Chris reduced Ghouly to the whimpering whining mittiot he is.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:44 PM

StarryNite (2,785 posts)

22. WTF???

Both candidates? What the fuck debate were they watching? It was romney that wouldn't shut the fuck up and who kept interrupting both Obama and Lehrer.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:34 PM

joshcryer (39,746 posts)

25. Simple solution. Turn off their mics when their time is up. Full stop.

If they keep talking then they look like morons.

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Fri Oct 5, 2012, 04:05 PM

Star Member Indpndnt (2,306 posts)

34. This. Exactly. ^^

Turn off their mikes. And make a big deal out of it, too, so that everyone knows what's about to happen. They'll know why.

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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:39 PM

ThoughtCriminal (9,797 posts)

28. Let an elementary school teacher moderate

If my 1st grade teacher was still around and put in charge, they wouldn't dare.

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