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Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:13 PM

Intelligence effort named citizens, not terrorists

Source: AP-Excite

By MATT APUZZO and EILEEN SULLIVAN

WASHINGTON (AP) - A multibillion-dollar information-sharing program created in the aftermath of 9/11 has improperly collected information about innocent Americans and produced little valuable intelligence on terrorism, a Senate report concludes. It portrays an effort that ballooned far beyond anyone's ability to control.

What began as an attempt to put local, state and federal officials in the same room analyzing the same intelligence has instead cost huge amounts of money for data-mining software, flat screen televisions and, in Arizona, two fully equipped Chevrolet Tahoes that are used for commuting, investigators found.

The lengthy, bipartisan report is a scathing evaluation of what the Department of Homeland Security has held up as a crown jewel of its security efforts. The report underscores a reality of post-9/11 Washington: National security programs tend to grow, never shrink, even when their money and manpower far surpass the actual subject of terrorism. Much of this money went for ordinary local crime-fighting.

Disagreeing with the critical conclusions of the report, Homeland Security says it is outdated, inaccurate and too focused on information produced by the program, ignoring benefits to local governments from their involvement with federal intelligence officials.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20121002/DA1LNPS01.html




In this March 15, 2011 file photo, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano speaks at the National Fusion Center Conference in Denver. A multibillion-dollar information-sharing program that was created in the aftermath of 9/11 has improperly collected information about innocent Americans and produced no valuable intelligence on terrorism, according to a Senate report that describes an effort that ballooned far beyond anyone’s ability to control. (AP Photo/Ed Andrieski, File)

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Omaha Steve Oct 2012 OP
SoapBox Oct 2012 #1
RC Oct 2012 #2
Autumn Oct 2012 #3
Arctic Dave Oct 2012 #4
leftstreet Oct 2012 #13
OnyxCollie Oct 2012 #5
Downwinder Oct 2012 #6
Javaman Oct 2012 #7
FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #11
Javaman Oct 2012 #14
KoKo Oct 2012 #8
Mnpaul Oct 2012 #9
bemildred Oct 2012 #10
truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #12

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:19 PM

1. OH! I'm so surprised!

Not.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:28 PM

2. No shit Dick Tracy.

 

And it took them something like 10 years to figure this out?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:32 PM

3. Now there's a real fucking surprise

NOT.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:33 PM

4. Homeland Security is a bloated, ineffective waste of money?

 

Shocked I tell ya!


Kill the entire department.

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:19 PM

13. We need more intelligence agencies



United States Intelligence Community

The IC consists of 16 members (also called elements). The Central Intelligence Agency is an independent agency of the United States government. The other 15 elements are offices or bureaus within federal executive departments. The IC is led by the Director of National Intelligence, whose office, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), is not listed as a member of the IC.

Independent agencies
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
United States Department of Defense
Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency (AFISRA)
Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM)
Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
Marine Corps Intelligence Activity (MCIA)
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
National Security Agency (NSA)
Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI)
United States Department of Energy
Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence (OICI)
United States Department of Homeland Security
Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A)
Coast Guard Intelligence (CGI)
United States Department of Justice
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Drug Enforcement Administration, Office of National Security Intelligence (DEA/ONSI)
United States Department of State
Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR)
United States Department of the Treasury
Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI)

The Washington Post has reported that there are 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies in 10,000 locations in the United States that are working on counterterrorism, homeland security, and intelligence, and that the intelligence community as a whole includes 854,000 people who hold top-secret clearances. According to a 2008 study by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, private contractors make up 29% of the workforce in the US intelligence community and cost the equivalent of 49% of their personnel budgets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:43 AM

5. Oh, we coulda had a czar!

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:44 AM

6. GIGO. Just a big dumpster.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:37 AM

7. HLS is nothing more than a money maker for cronies of members of congress.

it's always been completely worthless and a colossal sham.

anyone paying attention knows this.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:05 PM

11. We need our leaders to shut it down.

(I know, but we need it)

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:54 PM

14. I lump HLS with the iraq and afghan wars and the tax cut for the rich as the most useless

money suckers around.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:15 AM

8. K&R

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:08 AM

9. Two years later

no charges filed after the raids by the FBI on antiwar protestors in Mn.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:37 AM

10. Gee, who could have predicted this?

Yet another giant database conjured up by politicians who know diddle about databases. Just because you have a big pile of bits, that doesn't mean it is worth much. Making the haystack bigger does not help you find the needle.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:10 PM

12. And of course, one billion to help our troops find jobs is simply out of the question.

Upside-down priorities.

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