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Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:23 PM

RYAN: PREVENTING GAY PEOPLE FROM MARRYING IS A ‘UNIVERSAL HUMAN’ VALUE

Source: ThinkProgress

Paul Ryan reiterated his opposition to marriage equality, during a town hall in Cincinnati, Ohio on Tuesday. “The things you talk about like traditional marriage and family and entrepreneurship. These aren’t values that are indicative to any one person or creed or color. These are American values, these are universal human values,” he said in response to a question from the audience. Watch it:







Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/09/25/906051/ryan-preventing-gay-people-from-marrying-is-a-universal-human-value/

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Reply RYAN: PREVENTING GAY PEOPLE FROM MARRYING IS A ‘UNIVERSAL HUMAN’ VALUE (Original post)
DonViejo Sep 2012 OP
Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #1
ann--- Sep 2012 #2
LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #3
agtcovert Sep 2012 #25
LibertyLover Sep 2012 #41
Scuba Sep 2012 #4
goclark Sep 2012 #10
Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #5
smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #47
fun n serious Sep 2012 #6
SoapBox Sep 2012 #7
elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #8
Evasporque Sep 2012 #9
DonViejo Sep 2012 #14
DCKit Sep 2012 #18
Cha Sep 2012 #43
Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #11
Evasporque Sep 2012 #12
closeupready Sep 2012 #13
Iris Sep 2012 #15
Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #16
DCKit Sep 2012 #17
azurnoir Sep 2012 #19
amuse bouche Sep 2012 #20
patrice Sep 2012 #21
Flashmann Sep 2012 #22
Kber Sep 2012 #23
RevStPatrick Sep 2012 #24
berni_mccoy Sep 2012 #26
agtcovert Sep 2012 #27
HockeyMom Sep 2012 #28
Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #35
fun n serious Sep 2012 #29
Bad_Ronald Sep 2012 #30
closeupready Sep 2012 #31
Bad_Ronald Sep 2012 #33
Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #34
Heather MC Sep 2012 #32
hue Sep 2012 #36
benld74 Sep 2012 #37
olddad56 Sep 2012 #38
tarheelsunc Sep 2012 #39
Ash_F Sep 2012 #40
allan01 Sep 2012 #42
sarcasmo Sep 2012 #44
gopiscrap Sep 2012 #45
AntiFascist Sep 2012 #46

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:26 PM

1. Universal?

I don't think that word means what you think it means....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:27 PM

2. What do you know....

Iran's president feels the same way! hahahaha

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:27 PM

3. 'Universal human values'?

Good grief.

And apart from the typical Republican homophobia - how on earth can 'entrepreneurship' be a universal human value? What does 'entrepreneurship' mean in a hunter-gatherer society, for example?

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:52 PM

25. I don't know that I'd call it homophobia...

Just being an intolerant, xenophobic asshole.

I can't stand these fuckers.

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:37 PM

41. Entrepreneurship in hunter-gatherer societies

meant that you made a whole bunch of spears, followed the hunters while they were tracking the mammoth and, when all their spears ran out before said mammoth was dead, you jumped in, provided them with your spears so that they could finish the kill in exchange for a nice juicy steak. If you were a Republican hunter-gatherer entrepreneur, you than took all the credit for the kill.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:28 PM

4. I always knew I lived in a different universe than Paul Ryan.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:34 PM

10. I am proud that I live in a different universe than all these

idiots!

I have never seen an election that had so many NUTS!

And after Palin amd Co. and Bush, that takes a lot of NUTS that are not in the candy bars.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:28 PM

5. Sorry, Ryan, but you don't get to dictate what qualifies as "universal human values"

Same sex marriage is legal nationally in 11 countries, and marriage equality is valued by millions of people outside of those countries. You're on the wrong side of history on this one, Skippy.

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Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:17 PM

47. Exactly, what on earth makes him feel entitled to think that he is qualified to define what

"Universal" human values are? God I hate that mother F**ker! What sheer arrogance!!

Because he thinks so, It is "Universal"? This guy has re-defined the meaning of self-absorbed. Arghhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:30 PM

7. Mittens and Coupon Care = McCain and Palin of 2012

The more they talk...the more the two of them meltdown into the same slime that became McCain/Quitter.

Bizarre...but hey, it makes me happy, that they show how radicalized and extremist they are.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:30 PM

8. No WAy

 

This is the comments from the GOP VP Candidate. You have to be kidding.

Guess he never heard of Human Rights.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:32 PM

9. brow beating gays will no longer win national elections...nt

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Response to Evasporque (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:38 PM

14. But it will get him the endorsement of the Log Cabin Republicans

and GOProud.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:55 PM

18. Those sad, sad people.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 05:00 PM

43. Ain't that the

F****** Truth!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:34 PM

11. Universal? Canadians would disagree

We've had legal same-sex marriage since 2005.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:35 PM

12. so if you aren't a capitalist pig hetero you not human...way to go Adolf....nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:36 PM

13. BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:38 PM

15. Entrepreneurship?

Wtf? Does this asshat even no what the word "value" means?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:41 PM

16. "I don’t support gay marriage in spite of being a conservative.

I support gay marriage because I am a conservative."

- David Cameron, leader of the UK Conservative Party.

http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2012/05/david-cameron-shows-real-courage-on-gay-marriage.html


Many DUers obviously disagree with Cameron on economic issues, but on social issues he makes people like Ryan look disgustingly primeval.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:53 PM

17. Thanks Paul!

 

Now my S.O. will likely be asking me to get gay-married, just to spite your nastiness. It's legal here.

Say something (you honestly believe) about disenfranchising minority voters, and you've hit the trifecta - women, gays and minorities.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:00 PM

19. well not quite Paulie but feel free to keep talking n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:19 PM

20. Keep talking RyRy

As Chris Rock said...That Obama lead? You built that

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:23 PM

21. Creating a permanent Under-class. How very profoundly Hate -full. "Christianity" has failed. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:23 PM

22. UNIVERSAL HUMAN’ VALUE

Not for me fuckface.....Don't ever presume you speak for me on ANY Goddam subject........

I'm speaking to Lyan Ryan,in case it's not obvious...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:36 PM

23. Um no...

Examples of Universal Human Values might be more like, the right to health care, food and housing.

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Response to Kber (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:45 PM

24. Unfortunately, those are not Universal Human Values either.

 

They should be, but RAyn proves that they are not.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:53 PM

26. WTF.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:56 PM

27. He's spinning

the phrase "universal human value" into something twisted. Leave it to these jokers to pervert the meaning of a word.

I'm so glad he knows what American values are too. I had it all wrong--I thought diversity and acceptance were in the list. Guess I was wrong.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:05 PM

28. Paul Ryan's church called my Aunt an "Adultress"

because she divorced and remarried. You called my cousin, born of their love, a BASTARD. After 50 years of marriage, they called each other Honey and Baby. My Uncle went into deep deline after his "Baby Whore" passed away. I have also known gay couples, not allowed to marry, who have been together for 30+ years. They should have the same rights as my Aunt and Uncle. BTW, they were married, not in the Catholic Church, but in a Civil Ceremony; exactly the same as gay couples in states with Marriage Equality. None of your business, Paul Ryan, and the Catholic Church. Keep YOUR RELIGION out of Civil Law.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #28)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:31 PM

35. The church which Paul Ryan belongs to is false.

The church to which Paul Ryan belongs to is a subversive institution which intends to undermine our constitution.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:07 PM

29. We have this P.O.S

Spewing his bigotry here in the USA and we can somehow stop it from happening in IRAN?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:14 PM

30. Are the same people who are making excuses for Ahmadinejad in other threads here...

 

for his vicious homophobic rancor now going to step forward & do the same for Ryan? If not, why? I'm curious as to why one homophobic bigot gets treated like a Faberge egg while another is soundly (and justifiably) condemned for essentially spewing the same type of vile hatred.

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Response to Bad_Ronald (Reply #30)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:19 PM

31. Um, duh, you know what context is?

Warmongers dispense with context when it suits them.

Liberals and progressives, on the other hand, always consider context when faced with current events.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #31)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:25 PM

33. Are you serious? In what context is condemning on DU what Ahmadinejad said tantamount to

 

advocating war with Iran? And if condemning homophobic bigotry is your definition of "warmongering" I suggest you bookmark a new online English dictionary...one that actually defines words correctly.

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Response to Bad_Ronald (Reply #30)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:28 PM

34. I was wondering the same thing...

nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:22 PM

32. Ummm????

I don't know what the Question was, but how so you go from talking about Gay Marriage, to pulling people out of Poverty with a 5-point plan. How are those things related??????????

See this is another brain bleeder. I swear when I hear him speak my good brain cells leak out of my head. and I think but can't confirm but I think I felt an ovary dry up

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:33 PM

36. and the sheeple drink his baseless, poisonous kool-aide!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:00 PM

37. To: Paul Ryan From: the Ooman of the Galactic 16th Parsec - NO it is NOT!!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:05 PM

38. alright, homophobes unite for Ryan....

while he turns more undecided voters against him.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:30 PM

39. Hitler, Ahmadenijad, Ryan

They all have something in common! Who knew?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:32 PM

40. I guess he and Ahmadinejad are poker buddies.

Damn, like 5 people beat me to it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:47 PM

42. re: RYAN: PREVENTING GAY PEOPLE FROM MARRYING IS A ‘UNIVERSAL HUMAN’ VALUE

we have all these lovely pledges and creeds for our country. we the people . and liberty and justice for All.
getting rid of dont ask , dont tell. shooting down parts of defense of marrage act. some states allowing for gay marrige .(and gay divorce)we won the right to divorce leagly . and the right to vote for women. i feel that these are a first step to upholding these pledges and creeds . and not just for one group( yangs and coms as well ) was it not we the rich white male adult . or was it the black man. no .it was WE THE PEOPLE who formed the union. susan b anthoney. other wise these fancy creeds and pledges are useless and throw them out .

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 05:31 PM

44. Asshat!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:26 PM

45. FUCK THAT!!!

PREVENTING LYIN RYAN FROM BEING VICE PRESIDENT IS A 'UNIVERSAL HUMAN VALUE' !!!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:37 PM

46. Typical Republican 'values'...

just like 'white supremecy' and 'male dominance'.

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