Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:17 PM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
Ralph Reed's Group Compares Obama Policies to Nazi Germany
Source: Mother Jones
A mailer blasted out by the Faith and Freedom Coalition, a nonprofit group spending millions of dollars to mobilize evangelical voters this November to help Mitt Romney's campaign, compares President Barack Obama's policies to the threat posed by Nazi Germany and Japan during World War II. It also says that Obama has "Communist beliefs." A copy of this so-called "Voter Registration Confirmation Survey" was obtained by Mother Jones after it was sent to the home of a registered Republican voter. The Faith and Freedom Coalition is the brainchild of Ralph Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition who was once hailed as "the right hand of God" and who is now tasked with getting out the evangelical vote for Romney. In the mid-2000s, Reed was ensnared in the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal. Reed was a longtime friend of Abramoff's, and he took payments from Abramoff to lobby against certain Indian casinos. Reed once ran a religious-themed anti-gambling campaign at the behest of an Abramoff-connected American Indian tribe to try to prevent another tribe from opening a competitor casino. His current efforts for Romney are something of a political rehabilitation for Reed. -snip- As the New York Times recently reported, the Faith and Freedom Coalition intends to spend between $10 million and $12 million this election cycle. FFC aims to mobilize 17 million right-leaning, religious voters it has compiled in a database using sophisticated microtargeting methods, Reed said, using phone calls and mailers. Reed's master plan calls for more than 5,000 volunteers to make contact with millions of voters in person, with 25 million voter guides being distributed at 117,000 churches around the country before Election Day. And this is mailer is a piece of this ambitious endeavor. Accompanied by a donation solicitation, the Faith and Freedom Coalition direct-mail piece asks a series of leading, anti-Obama questions. Obamacare, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, and Cuba's Fidel Castro all figure prominently in the missive. The most contentious question may be one comparing Obama's policies to the threat of Nazi Germany and Japan during the second World War: -snip- Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/ralph-reed-obama-mailer-nazi-communist This is the mailer question referred to above (shown only as an image in the article, so I've typed this up): QUESTION #10: How much danger do you think liberty is in right now as a result of President Obama's policies, actions and agenda for America's future? (Mark as many answers as you think appropriate.) The issue of President Obama's "Communist beliefs" comes up in this question: ISSUE SUMMARY: The anti-American Communist dictator of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, calls Barack Obama "Comrade Obama" and remarked that he believes President Obama is to the Left of himself and Fidel Castro. Besides containing these ludicrous, dishonest "issue summaries" and questions, the guide asks people if they're registered to vote, asks them to pledge to vote, and asks them to commit to "freedom-saving volunteer activities" such as distributing the guide, working phone banks, and going to town halls to voice opposition to the President's policies. The Mother Jones article has an image of the complete mailer, as well as the smaller images of those questions.
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| highplainsdem | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| Solly Mack | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| olegramps | Sep 2012 | #49 | |
| Solly Mack | Sep 2012 | #50 | |
| defacto7 | Sep 2012 | #57 | |
| oswaldactedalone | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| mac56 | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| mac56 | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| Lars77 | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | Sep 2012 | #39 | |
| 4lbs | Sep 2012 | #45 | |
| ET Awful | Sep 2012 | #47 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| defacto7 | Sep 2012 | #58 | |
| Tom Ripley | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| SunSeeker | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| kestrel91316 | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| SoapBox | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| elbloggoZY27 | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| caveat_imperator | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| DCKit | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| Enrique | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| nebenaube | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| sinkingfeeling | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| muriel_volestrangler | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| JoePhilly | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| maxrandb | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| Posteritatis | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| progressivebydesign | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| lordsummerisle | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| Ikonoklast | Sep 2012 | #55 | |
| olddad56 | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| NYtoBush-Drop Dead | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| Ford_Prefect | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| yurbud | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| fascisthunter | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| patrice | Sep 2012 | #35 | |
| Rosa Luxemburg | Sep 2012 | #36 | |
| NICO9000 | Sep 2012 | #37 | |
| Third Doctor | Sep 2012 | #38 | |
| Akoto | Sep 2012 | #40 | |
| agentS | Sep 2012 | #41 | |
| Stewland | Sep 2012 | #42 | |
| raouldukelives | Sep 2012 | #48 | |
| defacto7 | Sep 2012 | #43 | |
| Zoeisright | Sep 2012 | #44 | |
| cstanleytech | Sep 2012 | #46 | |
| still_one | Sep 2012 | #51 | |
| gopiscrap | Sep 2012 | #52 | |
| LeftinOH | Sep 2012 | #53 | |
| Stewland | Sep 2012 | #54 | |
| defacto7 | Sep 2012 | #60 | |
| midnight | Sep 2012 | #56 | |
| Canuckistanian | Sep 2012 | #59 | |
| area51 | Sep 2012 | #61 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:20 PM
Solly Mack (49,491 posts)
1. Ralph Reed has always been a piece of shit.
Response to Solly Mack (Reply #1)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:06 AM
olegramps (3,926 posts)
49. Most importantly is the silence of Romney and Ryan.
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Their silence in not condemning Reed and his cadre of evil liars speaks more loudly to me than these imbeciles. Ryan especially knows better or at least should be since he claims to believe in Christian ethics. The Republicans have degenerated to lowest level of hatred and prejudice of anyone who opposes their radical agenda. They are willing to bare false witness with impunity to achieve their goals. Their tactics reveal that the Republican Party has become so intellectually bankrupt that their only recourse is outright vile slander of their opponents. Their sole asset is to play on the racial prejudices and evangelical moral tyrants to achiever their goals. It is unfortunate that the very people they prey on are so delusional that they cooperate in the own destruction. I doubt that I have enough years left that I will ever see the scales fall from their eyes and realize that they have been blind to fact they are just pawns to be sacrificed. In short, Useful Idiots.
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Response to olegramps (Reply #49)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:13 AM
Solly Mack (49,491 posts)
50. They won't condemn Reed- and for the reasons you've stated.
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I enjoyed reading your post.
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Response to olegramps (Reply #49)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:00 AM
defacto7 (3,280 posts)
57. You're absolutely right. Great comment.
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Last edited Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:01 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I am non-religious, but I agree with every word you said. Truth transcends ideology.
Thanks |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:21 PM
oswaldactedalone (1,214 posts)
2. Such a disgusting
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lot of pigs those POS are. Again it's projection, they act like Nazis but say everyone else is one. Amazingly stupid, ignorant, and downright pathetic.
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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:22 PM
mac56 (13,647 posts)
6. Projection.
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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:40 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
13. No, no, no . . . well at least in certain significant instances, No! It's a DELIBERATE disguise.
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There are "facilitators" amongst this demographic and they know exactly what they are doing. It's not projection at least for them, though I am certain they know about projection and take advantage of it as they "facilitate" others.
Their movement itself knows that it is a deliberately dishonest tactic that helps them DISTRACT others from the truth about what Romney and his cohort REALLY are = a nationless plutocracy that is trying to take over the USA and then the rest of the world. It's funny that they are bringing the very thing they say they hate. This means that their hate is SELF hate, because it is constructed of ignorance and LIES. We live in perilous times. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:21 PM
mac56 (13,647 posts)
3. Pay attention, class. This is an example of Godwin's Law.
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Not to mention bug-ass looniness.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:22 PM
Lars77 (3,032 posts)
4. So he's a communist with nazi policies.
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No wonder Europeans are bemused by the American political rhetoric.
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Response to Lars77 (Reply #4)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:21 AM
awoke_in_2003 (18,500 posts)
39. don't forget a christian muslin. nt
Response to Lars77 (Reply #4)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:42 AM
4lbs (5,129 posts)
45. Wow. They don't even realize that "Nazi", "Socialist", and "Communist" are different idealogies.
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One can't simply mix and match as one pleases.
But hey, they don't need no schooling. Just more Bible and God. |
Response to 4lbs (Reply #45)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:51 AM
ET Awful (24,013 posts)
47. That's because their entire being is based on fearing the "other".
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As long as it's something they can label as different, it's all the same. If their viewpoint says something should be blue, then anything that's not blue could be called red, green, orange, yellow or chartreuse all would mean the same thing.
It's the "otherness" that matters. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:22 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
5. End-Time-speak. Learn it Democrats! nt
Response to patrice (Reply #5)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:03 AM
defacto7 (3,280 posts)
58. You got that right!
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:24 PM
Tom Ripley (2,642 posts)
7. Reed has to be the only boy who ever wanted to be Sid Sawyer
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:24 PM
SunSeeker (5,030 posts)
8. My mother-in-law got one of these.
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Last edited Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:25 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) She is convinced that Obama is the second coming of Hitler. When I tell her that it's Romney that wants to voucherize her medicare that she depends on to live, she tells me its all Obama lies designed to fool us. Some people are irretrievably brainwashed out there by Fox and now Ralph Reed.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:27 PM
kestrel91316 (45,394 posts)
9. More projection from the RW, which advocates killing all liberals.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:27 PM
SoapBox (5,820 posts)
10. Typical....*yawn*
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When these creeps have nothing else (and they NEVER do!), it's always:
Hitler / Nazi stuff Homosexuals (take your pick of which "BOO!" they are going to try) No Abortion, No Abortion, No Abortion (translation: We stick our snouts into women's parts and want to RULE them!) Anything but Hardcore (made up the way we want) Christianity is Satan worship (yawn) White! (our favorite color of skin and bed sheets) ....and so it goes. Same old, same old. Oh Ralphie, you dickhead, *FINGER*! |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:35 PM
elbloggoZY27 (283 posts)
11. No NO No
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Here is a real example of INTOLERANCE in it's ugliest form.
I need say no more. |
Response to elbloggoZY27 (Reply #11)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:43 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
15. I agree with you 100%. Self hate bearing the fruit of omni-hate, racism, & religious bigotry.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:36 PM
caveat_imperator (193 posts)
12. I know what I would answer.
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"President Obama is not an enemy of liberty, but ralph reed and his goons would happily carry out against any opponent of theirs violent actions that would make nazis like hitler, himmler, and mengele proud."
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Response to caveat_imperator (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:51 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
16. The LIES that caused the War on an INNOCENT nation known as Iraq prove what you say. The Bush
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administration was threatened by this VERY same group, when he made mild criticism of Israel in the months before March 19, 2003, these people cranked out 100K phone calls to the WH, basically threatening the Bush agenda (which at some point in that time frame was still to privatize social security, i.e. one of the actual objectives of the "political capital" that he expected to gain from a war).
There's an awesome video that gives a very good objective portrait of Evangelicals and End Timers out there somewhere. It was posted here recently, so you can search for it. That video has the 100K phone calls to Bush information in it. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:42 PM
DCKit (18,291 posts)
14. The stench of desperation. nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:52 PM
Enrique (22,619 posts)
17. sending out mailers to the troglodytes
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I hope every time Ralph Reed shows his face on TV, he gets the Abramoff emails read to his face. Reed has no business in our public life anymore.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:03 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
18. The same group who threatened the Bush agenda in the months preceding March 19, 2003. link:
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The Bush administration was threatened by this VERY same group, when he made mild criticism of Israel in the months before March 19, 2003, these people cranked out 100K phone calls to the WH, basically threatening the Bush agenda (which at some point in that time frame was still to privatize social security, i.e. one of the actual objectives of the "political capital" that he expected to gain from a war).
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Response to patrice (Reply #18)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:18 PM
nebenaube (3,186 posts)
32. self professed doomsday cult... n/t
Response to nebenaube (Reply #32)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:28 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
33. Feeding environmental doomsdayism amongst certain predisposed youth demographics. nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:25 PM
sinkingfeeling (27,820 posts)
19. I would like to have just one of these idiots explain what the communist/socialist
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policies, actions, and agenda are.
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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #19)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:31 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
34. Me too!!! but They won't do that because they know that it will show how WRONG they are. nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:25 PM
muriel_volestrangler (65,329 posts)
20. Notice they don't commit to a side in the Civil War
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That way, they can get confederacy-loving assholes who think "this is as bad as the War of Northern Aggression" and people who think "this is as bad as slavery" ...
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:33 PM
BumRushDaShow (11,956 posts)
21. At least the Postal Service is benefitting from his waste of money. n/t
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:38 PM
JoePhilly (15,991 posts)
22. Ralph is unwilling to say Mormons are true Christians.
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He's happy to have the cultist Mormons THINK that they are accepted as true Christians, because they tend to vote GOP.
But he won't tell them that he believes they are a cult. Not to their faces. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:41 PM
maxrandb (5,237 posts)
23. In a just world
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this weasly piece of shit would be in a federal prison!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:44 PM
Posteritatis (17,280 posts)
24. Those are some *gloriously* loaded questions. Wow. (nt)
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:57 PM
progressivebydesign (19,363 posts)
25. Whenever I wonder how any person could believe this shit, I remember that Hitler was not unpopular..
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he was not operating in a vacuum. People supported him. People support a lot of really fucked up people because of their fear and ignorance.
Bet Ralph Reed gets tax free income, right??? Why should anyone be shocked, btw, considering that this is the shit Glenn Beck does all the time, and he's on Clear Channel and NOW Dish Network. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:34 PM
lordsummerisle (1,313 posts)
26. There's a phrase
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that Thom Hartmann likes to use, which is, when you start comparing someone/something to the Nazis, you've already lost the argument.
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Response to lordsummerisle (Reply #26)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:52 PM
Ikonoklast (21,631 posts)
55. Well said, Himmler.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:53 PM
olddad56 (2,831 posts)
27. that is almost as bad as comparing them to Bush's America.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 05:27 PM
NYtoBush-Drop Dead (236 posts)
28. crazy ignorant fucks...
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Do these idiots know that the Nazis and Communists fought each other and they are not the same thing?
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:46 PM
Ford_Prefect (251 posts)
29. When individual citizens made some of the same kinds of comparison about W weren't they threatened
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with arrest and worse? Didn't the same thing happen when something equally comparative was said about the GOP platform along with Mitt & Ryan doctrine statements?
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:47 PM
yurbud (31,406 posts)
30. whenever a Republican mentions Nazis, reporters should give that person a fill in the blank test...
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Someone who believes the government should own the means of production is a ______________________.
Someone who thinks corporations should run the government is a______________________________. Someone who thinks their religion should run the government is a____________________________. and if they can't answer the questions, include that in their story. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:13 PM
fascisthunter (28,608 posts)
31. right winger calling Obama a Nazi... that's hilarious
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not bright... and just plain bad.
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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #31)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:37 PM
patrice (47,375 posts)
35. It's because the truth about the Tea Party's white supremecist heritage is getting out, so,
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:38 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (22,003 posts)
36. Crook
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:58 PM
NICO9000 (970 posts)
37. Another cretinous POS
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I remember when he was the boy wonder back in the 80s and I thought he was a little pussy back then. Reed is preaching to the choir here; I doubt it will have any impact beyond the moron population.
I can't wait to cast my vote for the Kenyan, Muslim, Socialist, Marxist, Maoist, Communist and now Nazi President Obama! |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:06 PM
Third Doctor (1,025 posts)
38. The RW keep saying this crap.
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The Nazis were far right lunatics. Which means they are closer to the Nazis ideaology wise than Obama or the Dems.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:24 AM
Akoto (3,514 posts)
40. Ah, Godwin's Law. If they have to resort to Hitler, they've already lost. n/t
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:32 AM
agentS (1,204 posts)
41. And they GET MAD at us for calling them racists all the time!!!! Part 40,000!
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If any of y'all have a spare 10 minutes today, swing by Politics Nation at MSNBC and catch the segment about this issue by Al Sharpton and his guest Frank Schaffer (former evangelical bigwig, now a liberal icon of sorts), who tear this crap down piece by bloody piece.
Long story short, it won't win many voters over. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:00 AM
Stewland (163 posts)
42. irony is these far right call themselves Christians
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These so call Christian groups promote division and hatred of so many groups that they should be labeled hate groups. True believers might think that God is always with them Love thy neighbor as yourself,turn the other cheek and practice true forgiveness and mercy. But no this group spreads hatred in the name of religion and gets tax exemption for doin the Lords work. Insane is it not?
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Response to Stewland (Reply #42)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:12 AM
raouldukelives (2,375 posts)
48. Not sure if it's insanity or calculated.
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Perhaps it's all true. JC, the Golden Calf, Bless your enemies, usury and the Ten Commandments. If so, they are the only ones capable of fitting the bill as Anti-Christian. Claiming to be one while making sure every thing you do is the direct opposite of the teachings they claim to admire.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:19 AM
defacto7 (3,280 posts)
43. You have to be pretty stupid to eat that...
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I don't want or need to go into my fascism definition rant because this is just too asinine to comment on.
All I want to say is that only closed minded stupidity could possibly accept their logic. But unfortunately there is plenty of stupid around these days. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:42 AM
Zoeisright (7,832 posts)
44. I wish there was a hell so Ralph Reed could burn in it.
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Rotting is too good for him.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:33 AM
cstanleytech (5,302 posts)
46. Could they lose their non profit status with the IRS for this? nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:15 AM
still_one (31,079 posts)
51. reed and nader should be married, it would be a match made in hell /nt
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:46 AM
gopiscrap (2,400 posts)
52. Sounds like a bit of projection to me
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:51 AM
LeftinOH (4,467 posts)
53. Ralph Reed is a dog-raping, crack smoking pervert...
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And there's no need to prove it, cause it's right here on the internet!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:57 PM
Stewland (163 posts)
54. Nathan Sproul
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I just googled him and found out that he is a far right Christian. This should again help us realize that the GOPT is working to establish a theocracy. Dominionist is the term to look up. These theocratic thugs have made inroads already. Do we want more Bachmans, Akins, Santorums and Palins in charge?
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Response to Stewland (Reply #54)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:17 AM
defacto7 (3,280 posts)
60. There is no doubt...
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no argument, no reason to believe other than they want a theocracy and most also want to bring on Armageddon. This is sick religion, out of body, crazy, god loves me and wants hell for all non believers, borderline sociopathic, psychotic, god part of the brain gone mad, ...
philosophy. They believe God allows them to lie. At all cost. They ARE dangerous. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:25 PM
midnight (23,443 posts)
56. Is this the same Ralf Reed? See Video:
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https://
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:14 AM
Canuckistanian (42,196 posts)
59. Ralph Reed? The guy who enabled REAL slavery in the Marianas?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-moyers/ralph-reed-in-the-mariana_b_1848059.html
Seems like he'd know a thing or two about "freedom" or more specifically, the lack of it for women working in his sweatshops. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:47 AM
area51 (5,033 posts)

