Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:46 AM
azurnoir (26,576 posts)
Man wrongly convicted can sue LAPD, federal court panel rules
Source: LA Times
A Los Angeles man who spent 19 years in prison for murders he did not commit will be able to sue the LAPD, a panel of the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled Monday. Harold C. Hall should be permitted to amend his complaint against the city to allege that officers coerced his confession, which the court said was made as a result of "desperation, fear and fatigue," in possible violation of the 5th Amendment. The majority in the 2-1 decision said "the extraordinary circumstances" of Hall's conviction justified the court's unusual action "to prevent a woefully unjust result." Hall's double-murder conviction in 1985 was based on "falsified" documents by a jailhouse informant and a confession Hall made when he was 18, the court said. He agreed to admit guilt only after several hours of interrogation in which he was handcuffed, denied food and never advised of his rights, the court said. Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-confession-lapd-20120925,0,4210451.story
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| azurnoir | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| cstanleytech | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| DFW | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| bemildred | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| cstanleytech | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| Suji to Seoul | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| christx30 | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| jerseyjack | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| christx30 | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| Suji to Seoul | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| kooljerk666 | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| bitchkitty | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| AnotherMcIntosh | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| bemildred | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| azurnoir | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| bemildred | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| Vidar | Sep 2012 | #16 |
Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 03:27 AM
cstanleytech (5,292 posts)
1. Any chance that the officers who violated his rights so badly could have their
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retirement/pension from the police department taken away?
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 05:49 AM
DFW (13,327 posts)
2. If it turns out they coerced his confession solely because they needed a fall guy
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They need to be jailed for the time he served.
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Response to DFW (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:19 AM
bemildred (67,484 posts)
10. +1. Cops need to meet a higher, not a lower standard. nt
Response to DFW (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:52 PM
cstanleytech (5,292 posts)
14. Oh I agree they should serve jail time but has the statute of limitations
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expired?
If so then they might get off from any criminal charges assuming of course the DA has the backbone to actually pursue them. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 05:59 AM
Suji to Seoul (1,921 posts)
3. you're kidding right???
Response to Suji to Seoul (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:52 AM
christx30 (1,166 posts)
4. Hall spent 19 years of his life
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in a cage where he risked rape, beatings and death because his rights were violated by the police. He will never be able to fully recover from that. You can't just expect him to take a pat on the head and walk away after that. If I were in charge, the cops would be lucky if all they lost was their pension. You ruin an innocent person's life, and you deserve anything that happens to you.
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Response to christx30 (Reply #4)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:07 AM
jerseyjack (1,361 posts)
5. ---also, the fuckin' prosecutor.
Response to jerseyjack (Reply #5)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:15 AM
christx30 (1,166 posts)
6. DU seriously needs
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a 'Like' feature.
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Response to christx30 (Reply #4)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:15 AM
Suji to Seoul (1,921 posts)
15. you're kidding right???
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Accountability for law enforcement? You're kidding, right????
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Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:22 AM
kooljerk666 (776 posts)
7. Towns/Cities should cancel all Cop insurance...
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and settlements made for police misconduct should come straight out of their pensions.
This would help police to clean up their act. Everytime brutality or perjury occurs & they are caught it come straight out of there pensions. I believe this would go a long way to help cops get rid of people that should be locked up in psychiatric wards. Here is an Entire Police force engaged in sexual harassment of the only female officer. I do not understand why they do not dissolve the force & rely on State Police till they create a new one with serious rules. http://www.montgomerynews.com/articles/2012/09/18/souderton_independent/news/doc5058abd0e46b6010263843.txt |
Response to kooljerk666 (Reply #7)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:59 AM
bitchkitty (6,790 posts)
8. That is insane.
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ALL insurance for ALL police forces? Because of the conduct of the LAPD and police in a few other cities? You must be joking.
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Response to kooljerk666 (Reply #7)
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Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:18 AM
bemildred (67,484 posts)
9. Every year, hundreds of millions of dollars, to pay for cops with no self-control. nt
Response to bemildred (Reply #9)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:59 PM
azurnoir (26,576 posts)
12. true enough but what struck me here is that the conditions this guys confession was obtained under
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are remarkably similar to those we read about being used at Gitmo, except he was released and can sue
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:22 PM
bemildred (67,484 posts)
13. Dumb AND violent, yes.
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Anybody who thinks we will not pay for Gitmo one day just has to be more patient, we will, that will never go away.
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Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:03 AM
Vidar (18,335 posts)

