Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:17 PM

alp227 (20,510 posts)

Justices will soon decide whether to take up same-sex marriage appeals

Source: CNN

The divisive issue of same-sex marriage was expected to be discussed privately by the Supreme Court Monday, and the justices could soon announce if they will hear a constitutional challenge to a federal law denying financial benefits to gay and lesbian couples.

An order from the court announcing whether they will take up either or both of two separate issues could come as early as Tuesday morning. If so, oral arguments and an eventual ruling would not happen until next year, but the current appeals are sure to re-ignite the hot-button social debate in a presidential election.

At issue is whether guarantees of "equal protection" in the U.S. Constitution should invalidate a California law -- and the separate 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which for federal purposes defines marriage as the legal union only between one man and one woman.

A New York woman sued, saying the congressional law unfairly treats same-sex couples who are lawfully married under the laws of their own states.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/24/us/scotus-same-sex-marriage/index.html

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12 replies	Author	Time	Post
Justices will soon decide whether to take up same-sex marriage appeals (Original post)	alp227	Sep 2012	OP
I hope the court takes this case	marshall	Sep 2012	#1
The decision will be 5-4	Kelvin Mace	Sep 2012	#2
doood	Robeysays	Sep 2012	#6
That was then	Kelvin Mace	Sep 2012	#10
fer thee restof yeaaa	Robeysays	Sep 2012	#7
If they didn't impeach	Kelvin Mace	Sep 2012	#9
We need to get another judge on the SCOTUS first	bushisanidiot	Sep 2012	#3
The only likely people retiring are the "liberal"	Kelvin Mace	Sep 2012	#11
To bad Justices can't be kicked off the bench	Heather MC	Sep 2012	#4
doooooood... come on	Robeysays	Sep 2012	#5
Kewl glad it's happened before but I doubt it will happen again	Heather MC	Sep 2012	#8
But it won't happen again	Kelvin Mace	Sep 2012	#12

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:00 PM

marshall (6,037 posts)

1. I hope the court takes this case

It would be interesting to see if any of the conservatives take Ted Olson's approach, that marriage in itself is a conservative value.

It would certainly be refreshing to see some of the judges vote in a way other than party line ideology.

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Response to marshall (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:26 PM

Kelvin Mace (9,830 posts)

2. The decision will be 5-4

against. Which will then lead to legislation to re-legalize DADT, and the court confirming it.

The SCOTUS is broken beyond repair, and will remain so for at least two decades. There is nothing the Court can do which will cause it to be impeached.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:17 PM

Robeysays (673 posts)

6. doood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Chase

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Response to Robeysays (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:45 AM

Kelvin Mace (9,830 posts)

10. That was then

this is now.

Vincent Bugliosi outlined an excellent case to impeach Scalia and his cronies, but it didn't happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Bugliosi#George_W._Bush

The article was called "None Dare Call It Treason", and he was right, they didn't.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:19 PM

Robeysays (673 posts)

7. fer thee restof yeaaa

A judge may also be removed by impeachment and conviction by congressional vote (hence the term good behavior); this has occurred fourteen times. Three other judges, Mark W. Delahay, George W. English, and Samuel B. Kent, chose to resign rather than go through the impeachment process.

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Response to Robeysays (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:40 AM

Kelvin Mace (9,830 posts)

9. If they didn't impeach

after the misconduct in 2000, they will never impeach.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:26 PM

bushisanidiot (7,848 posts)

3. We need to get another judge on the SCOTUS first

Otherwise this will be another 5-4 defeat.

I believe Roberts wants to squeeze it in quickly while the republicans still have the majority.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:48 AM

Kelvin Mace (9,830 posts)

11. The only likely people retiring are the "liberal"

justices and that is a very flawed description since the entire courts is made up of conservatives and ultra-right wing radicals.

Since 1970, every justice who retired was replaced by a more conservative justice.

Again, this assumes that the GOP would allow another SCOTUS appointment which seems unlikely.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:31 PM

Heather MC (4,809 posts)

4. To bad Justices can't be kicked off the bench

voting party lines in a court system is no Justice. What's the point in going through the farce of hearing a case.
What's the point in appoint lawyers to the court, They could get 9 monkeys to the damn job. 5 with red hats just always vote no. 4 with blue hats just always vote yes. They get paid in bananas and we don't have to pay Judges anymore. I think would could replace the entire Republican Congress with trained monkeys no one would notice the difference

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:17 PM

Robeysays (673 posts)