Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:48 AM

Botany (36,056 posts)

The Wheels Fall Off for Romney as Obama Leads with NASCAR Fans, 48%-41%

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According to a new Zogby Poll the wheels are close to coming off the Romney campaign. President Obama leads Mitt Romney among NASCAR fans, 48%-41%.

The Zogby poll revealed that President Obama has a seven point lead over Mitt Romney among likely voters, 48%-41%, and even larger nine point lead when all candidates are included, 49%-40%. The real shocker is that the poll found the president doing very well with some traditionally thought of Republican voting blocs.

Obama leads in almost every region of the country, and only trailed Romney by six points in the South, 41%-47%. Among voters who shop at Wal-Mart on a weekly basis, Romney’s lead is within the poll’s 3.4% margin of error, 45%-42%. Obama leads with voters who are or who have a family member in the military, 54%-39%. Most surprisingly, Obama only trails Romney by seven points with those who consider themselves born again Christians, 40%-47%. The president also leads with NASCAR fans, 48%-41%.

Romney’s problems with NASCAR fans could go back to when he mocked them while attending the Daytona 500 this year. The New York Times reported Romney’s Daytona experience in the most classic of ways, “But the crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. ‘I like those fancy raincoats you bought,’ he said. ‘Really sprung for the big bucks.’ And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that ‘I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners.’”

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/wheels-fall-romney-obama-leads-nascar-fans-48-41.html

"I like your fancy raincoats."

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The Wheels Fall Off for Romney as Obama Leads with NASCAR Fans, 48%-41% (Original post)	Botany	Sep 2012	OP
I bet Romney does better with the owners	liberal N proud	Sep 2012	#1
+1 ..an ever-important vote too! nt	barnabas63	Sep 2012	#12
Maybe not....	Mopar151	Sep 2012	#17
What happened to the important demographic known as soccer moms?	DURHAM D	Sep 2012	#2
They joined the keep-out-of-my-vagina moms.	aquart	Sep 2012	#15
His expression says, "Get me away from these people."	NYC_SKP	Sep 2012	#3
This sounds like an onion article. If true, stick a fork in Rmoney, he is done.	SWTORFanatic	Sep 2012	#4
Not an onion article	Botany	Sep 2012	#7
OMG they made a left turn that is meaningful? You're kidding me! If this is true, mittwitt is	lonestarnot	Sep 2012	#5
There were Reagan Democrats	bucolic_frolic	Sep 2012	#6
Well, sheeeeeeit.	ahg	Sep 2012	#8
That's pure meanness--right up there with the "Did you buy these at 7 11."	MADem	Sep 2012	#9
Like it or not NASCAR has some of the most loyal and best fans of any sport	Botany	Sep 2012	#11
Mitt's whole crew is totally tone-deaf	Mopar151	Sep 2012	#18
I hope you'll forgive me when I tell you the military numbers have me crying	SaveAmerica	Sep 2012	#10
This poll is true!	hueymahl	Sep 2012	#13
I wonder if there is a Romney relative poll	CanonRay	Sep 2012	#14
Nascar Dads for Obama, Deadbeat Dads for Romney	Blue Owl	Sep 2012	#16
Hobby racer here....	Mopar151	Sep 2012	#20
Not surprised, my dad is a NASCAR fan	IVoteDFL	Sep 2012	#19
Locking as duplicate	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#21

Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:52 AM

liberal N proud (43,767 posts)

1. I bet Romney does better with the owners

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:51 AM

barnabas63 (1,104 posts)

12. +1 ..an ever-important vote too! nt

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:30 PM

Mopar151 (6,056 posts)

17. Maybe not....

1) A lot of these sponsors are consumer products 2)The whole sport, ultimately, runs on disposable income

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:53 AM

DURHAM D (18,574 posts)

2. What happened to the important demographic known as soccer moms?

silly

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:27 PM

aquart (67,538 posts)

15. They joined the keep-out-of-my-vagina moms.

The Republicans don't want to talk about them anymore.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:54 AM

NYC_SKP (48,896 posts)

3. His expression says, "Get me away from these people."

What a fuck.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:54 AM

SWTORFanatic (385 posts)

4. This sounds like an onion article. If true, stick a fork in Rmoney, he is done.

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Response to SWTORFanatic (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:08 AM

Botany (36,056 posts)

7. Not an onion article

Last edited Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:09 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Romney is even losing support among the old white voters too .....
guess taking social security & medicare away from seniors (thanx
Paul Ryan).

<The fact that President Obama is doing so well with born again voters isn’t much of a surprise. Romney has struggled to win over the South from day one of his campaign. It was the South that rejected Romney all through the Republican primary process and kept the candidacies of Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum alive. Less than two weeks ago Reuters ran a story about Romney’s religion and his wealth. Romney has struggled to convince born again voters to support him, and a sizable percentage of them are supporting President Obama.

President Obama is leading Romney by large margins with Independents (46%-32%), Hispanics (68%-28%), African-Americans (93%-0%), and moderates (60%-26%). Romney needs to win big with men (Romney +5), seniors (Romney +3), and especially what has been traditionally thought of as the usually conservative Wal-Mart shopping (Romney +3), NASCAR watching voters (Obama +7). In this poll, Romney had no area of support large enough to offset Obama’s margins with other blocs of voters.

In short, things are bad for Romney.>

link @ O.P.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:02 AM

lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

5. OMG they made a left turn that is meaningful? You're kidding me! If this is true, mittwitt is

fucked.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:03 AM

bucolic_frolic (708 posts)

6. There were Reagan Democrats

Why not Obama Republicans?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:10 AM

ahg (64 posts)

8. Well, sheeeeeeit.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:26 AM

MADem (86,162 posts)

9. That's pure meanness--right up there with the "Did you buy these at 7 11."

‘I like those fancy raincoats you bought,’ he said. ‘Really sprung for the big bucks.’

"WTF is the matter with you NASCAR people? Why didn't they plan ahead and bring their Burberry or London Fog? And why isn't there a London Fog raincoat hawker at these venues? Harrrumph, Lovie...I've never seen such indignity in my life!!!"

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Response to MADem (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:41 AM

Botany (36,056 posts)

11. Like it or not NASCAR has some of the most loyal and best fans of any sport

... in the country and @ any race you have 10s of thousands of people who have
planned for months to go to a race and it most be real hard on them for one of the
high points of their year to be damped by a cold rain. ANY POL in the world would
have said, "NASCAR is very lucky to have such wonderful fans who will sit through a
nasty rain to support their favorite drivers. You people are great."

I live around and work w/ lots of red necks and they can spot a phony in 2 seconds
and Mitt is as phony as can be and they also don't like being talked down to. A bet you
1/2 the people in the stands after Mitt dropped his "fancy raincoats" meme on them
cussed him out then and there.

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Response to MADem (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:44 PM

Mopar151 (6,056 posts)

18. Mitt's whole crew is totally tone-deaf

And the folks who cater to, and cultivate racin' fans are very much not (tone-deaf).

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:36 AM

SaveAmerica (4,982 posts)

10. I hope you'll forgive me when I tell you the military numbers have me crying

Full on, I can't stop crying with those numbers. From the heart of someone whose husband has spent time in the Middle East I sincerely hope that we stay determined to GOTV for them (and other reasons/people!).

They know where the answer is to the end of all these deployments and I hope this is in response to an awareness of the programs this administration has put into place to help Veterans.

"Obama leads with voters who are or who have a family member in the military, 54%-39%"

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:13 PM

hueymahl (1 post)

13. This poll is true!

I live in the south, work and play with mostly conservatives, mostly republican, many NASCAR fans. Not a lot of love out there for Romney. Fewer trust him. Not saying a bunch are going to vote for Oboma, but you can count on a ton not voting at all.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:24 PM

CanonRay (4,686 posts)

14. I wonder if there is a Romney relative poll

to see if he even has a lead amongst his own kin.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:38 PM

Blue Owl (8,528 posts)

16. Nascar Dads for Obama, Deadbeat Dads for Romney

They are mostly from the red states after all.

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:50 PM

Mopar151 (6,056 posts)

20. Hobby racer here....

Rommney supporters are the neighbors who call the cops when you set the timing at 8 pm.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:48 PM

IVoteDFL (93 posts)

19. Not surprised, my dad is a NASCAR fan

They don't like Mittens for a myriad of reasons, not just his stupid raincoat slip up. He's too rich, and he's just too Mormon. Mitt thinks he is better than them, and they do not like that. Most of my dad's NASCAR friends are or were mechanics in some capacity in their lives. I've heard them say before that they can't trust a guy who looks like he's never had grease under his fingernails. Also going back to that "the people want a president they can have a beer with" this is especially true of NASCAR fans. They have beer every Sunday, my dad even switched his brand in accordance with his favorite driver once a few years back

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:43 PM

muriel_volestrangler (65,366 posts)

21. Locking as duplicate

of http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014242460

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