Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:11 AM
highplainsdem (11,110 posts)
Bill Kristol: ‘Obama team turned around’ Bush’s financial meltdown
Source: The Raw Story
Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol says that Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is going to have a tough time winning if the election is a referendum on President Barack Obama’s first term. “They need to focus on the next four years,” the conservative columnist told Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday. “If this election is just about the last four years, that’s a muddy verdict.” “Bush was president during the financial meltdown, the Obama team has turned that around pretty well,” he explained. “He’s got to make it a referendum on the choice about the next four years, and explain what Obama would do over the next four years that would be bad for the country and what he would do would be good for the country.” -snip- Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/23/bill-kristol-obama-team-turned-around-bushs-financial-meltdown/
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| highplainsdem | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| Berlum | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| Bozita | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| zbdent | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| berni_mccoy | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| beac | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| skeewee08 | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| magical thyme | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| JHB | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| stubtoe | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| Tigress DEM | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| yardwork | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| rsweets | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| Faygo Kid | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| Ikonoklast | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| Faygo Kid | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| Ikonoklast | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| Justice | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| Hissyspit | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| BlueMTexpat | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| DallasNE | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| reACTIONary | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| Liberal_Stalwart71 | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| Hamlette | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| Meandering1 | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| tjdee | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| AndyTiedye | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| Agnosticsherbet | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| JI7 | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| animalcrackers | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| rks306 | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| ywcachieve | Sep 2012 | #33 |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
Berlum (3,701 posts)
1. And the Romnoid Republican 1% will turn it right back around again: to FAIL
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Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:34 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) Republiconomics for the 1% has already demonstrated repeatedly how to screw virtually all of the American people in order to further enrich the rich. We don't need no more steenkin Republican FAIL. For Gawd's sake.
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Response to Berlum (Reply #1)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:48 PM
zbdent (34,522 posts)
18. If the Republicans "forcing" Bill Clinton to follow their lead made such a great economy ...
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then why did the economy go "South" when the Republicans had FULL POWER???
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
berni_mccoy (17,512 posts)
2. Seems to me there is a rift in the GOP powers
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Some of the GOP powerful do not want Mitt to make it.
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Response to berni_mccoy (Reply #2)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:11 PM
beac (9,340 posts)
27. Because they know a Mittens presidency would doom the GOP for the next 100 years.
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Assuming there would still be a country left after Rmoney, ace diplomat and crackerkjack manager got through with it!
Also, with Bush, they could at least console themselves that Cheney would be actually running the country... behind the scenes from an undisclosed location where he wouldn't repulse ordinary Americans. They've learned that Mittwit is an idiot, they are realizing Lyin' Ryan ain't the bright boy he's been cracked up to be and they know BOTH their candidates are too vain to realize how much they turn people off. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:31 AM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,847 posts)
3. "the Obama team has turned that around pretty well,” OK what's going on here? Is this his attempt
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at jinxing the administration? We all Know Kristol hasn't been right about anything.... ever!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:32 AM
skeewee08 (1,892 posts)
4. Did Kristol hit his head
Response to skeewee08 (Reply #4)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:39 AM
magical thyme (4,064 posts)
7. that seems to make the most sense
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He's suggesting Romney return the discussion to ME policy?!? Really?!?
He thinks Obama stumbled on that?!? |
Response to skeewee08 (Reply #4)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:31 PM
JHB (17,805 posts)
15. He's repositioning, trying to pre-retroactively rack up some "why Romney lost" statements
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Basically he's already started auditioning for the favor of the next Republican supastaah.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:34 AM
Tigress DEM (7,167 posts)
5. I don't think they WANT the Presidency. I think they want to destroy the country on his watch.
Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #5)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:23 PM
yardwork (37,074 posts)
14. I'm afraid you're right. I think that the fix is in.
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The Republicans keep control of the House and push their agenda forward, while the White House and "Congress" get the blame. (Yes, I know that the House is half of Congress. Unfortunately, a very significant number of Americans don't understand how the system works at all so it's pathetically easy for the Republicans to lie and get away with it. See Ryan.)
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:36 AM
rsweets (282 posts)
6. my god ... he finally got something right ... n/t
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:42 AM
Faygo Kid (20,215 posts)
8. He doesn't like Romney, but this?
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Good grief. He's been absolutely critical of Romney, but a nod to Obama? Where's the real Bill Kristol, and what have you done with him??
Let's hope he keeps moving in this direction. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:43 AM
Ikonoklast (21,631 posts)
9. The Neocons that aren't actively torpedoing Mitt in favor of Jebbie are bailing on him.
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If Mitt gets in there, Jebbie won't be able to in 2016.
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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #9)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
Faygo Kid (20,215 posts)
11. That's a good point, but . . .
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You have pure and unfiltered neocons like Jennifer Rubin at The Washington Post all in for the Mittster.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Reply #11)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:08 PM
Ikonoklast (21,631 posts)
20. The rest of them are still pining for a Bushie again.
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Rubin has only one agenda.
The rest use that same agenda as a tool in order to make money, but in Rubin's case, it's her only reason she does what she does. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:02 PM
Justice (4,365 posts)
10. I heard Bill Kristol say that and he was very sincere.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:15 PM
Hissyspit (40,063 posts)
12. Why is this fuck on TV?
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Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:05 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I don't give a damn what he has to say no matter what he says.
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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #12)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:11 PM
BlueMTexpat (2,594 posts)
21. +1000! eom
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:21 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,506 posts)
13. The neocons don't want Romney.
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Never did. They are going to hold out for 2016 for another "nation building, democracy spreading" war hawk.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:45 PM
DallasNE (2,954 posts)
17. But Obama Has Already Countered Kristol's Advice
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Romney's message going forward is to not only extend all of Bush's tax cuts but to add new ones for the super rich so how does doubling down on what Bush gave us not simply plunge us into another financial meltdown. Stale Republican ideas that never seem to work is indeed a hard sale to make regardless of how much money Rove had to lavish on Romney's campaign. And speaking of Rove, he has been called Bush's brain so there you go again. Face it Kristol, you have a lost cause.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:49 PM
reACTIONary (999 posts)
19. He wants Romney and Republicans to win. There is no subtext strategy here...
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... he's just sincerely offering what he thinks is good advice.
Obama did a decent job, despite Republican obstructionism, and he is acknowledging that because that is what the typical voter will perceive. If Romney is going to win, he has to sell the Republican world view / vision over the Democratic vision, not run against Obama's record. If only they had a better vision, it would be good advice. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:53 PM
Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)
22. Remember, Kristol is a Neocon.
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He doesn't give a damn about the economy.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:54 PM
Hamlette (11,844 posts)
23. Bill Kristol tells the truth. Shocking.
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At least part of his statement is the truth. A first for that creep.
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Response to Hamlette (Reply #23)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:34 AM
Meandering1 (36 posts)
32. Now there's some insight
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Last edited Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:37 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) from the wording of the O/Poster I though he was talking about another Bill Kristol. Just didn't seem to be the same right wing extremist I've always known Kristol to be. Or maybe he had the name spelled wrong. Like Billy Crystal or something..
Ben Sobeleone! Is Bill Kristol the stopped clock that's right once today? |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:03 PM
tjdee (18,042 posts)
24. What was Chris Wallace's reaction??
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:03 PM
AndyTiedye (22,977 posts)
25. Almost Sounds Like an Endorsement
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:17 PM
Agnosticsherbet (1,218 posts)
26. Bill Kristol is doing, in a weak candy-assed way...
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Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:18 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) what Bill Buckley did in the fifties, kick the right wing extremists to the curb. I don't think he has the intellectual chops.
For what it is worth, he is right, the Campaign should be about the next four years, about rival visions of the path ahead. From the beginning the campaign, even during the primary, was based on a fantasy that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Communist Nazi left wing extremist who took a thriving economy and turned it to shit. Romney doesn't have the balls or the ability to tell the truth. So Kristol is like that Greek guy, wondering through the streets of Athens looking for an honest man. I suspect it will get him drummed out of the right wing Choir. |
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:00 PM
99th_Monkey (7,205 posts)
28. At this rate, by election day, Bill will be voting for Obama
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:38 PM
JI7 (40,086 posts)
29. He would Do what Bush Did
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:05 PM
animalcrackers (93 posts)
30. The only problem
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is that they have no direction going forward. At the moment they are backed into a corner. People are finally starting to realize all the lies spewing from the GOP puppets so the "Obama wrecked everything" amnesia is wearing off. At the same time the Republican party is so disorganized because it sold its soul to the teabaggers, who in turn are ruled by a shit mix of Big Business, xenophobes, and delusional ideologues. So they keep there policies vague because they either A) can't reach a consensus (or) B) they realize their policies are incredibly unpopular. All they really had was trying to discredit the Pres
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:54 AM
rks306 (112 posts)
31. He gets it
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We need to rebuild our bridges and roads. More highspeed rail. Honesty is the best way to go.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:55 AM
ywcachieve (365 posts)
33. A neo-con admits that President Obama turns around the economic.
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An economy that was in free-fall when bush left office. They all know it, but it is good to hear one of them being honest, and admitting it, publicly.
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