Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:30 PM
Cali_Democrat (14,672 posts)
John Boehner: GOP Won't Agree To Raise Taxes On Wealthy, Even If Obama Wins Reelection
Source: Huffington Post
WASHINGTON -- Elections often come with a mandate -- or at least some sort of consequences for the defeated party, which not only has its candidates rejected by the public, but its ideas as well. Nevertheless, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is vowing that even if President Obama is reelected, Republicans will not budge on their refusal to raise taxes on wealthy Americans. At a press conference Friday morning, a reporter asked Boehner whether Republicans were "eventually going to have to raise taxes in some way" if the president wins in November. "No," replied Boehner. "Raising taxes, according to Ernst and Young, would threaten our economy with a loss of 700,000 jobs. Now why would I ever be for something like that? I'm not." Boehner's stand-firm stance is not shared by all of his caucus. According to the Washington Post, "senior Republicans in the House and the Senate" admit that if the president is reelected, he will have leverage to push for allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire on income above $250,000. Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/john-boehner-taxes-wealth-obama-reelection_n_1903715.html Let all the tax cuts expire and then draft legislation that only cuts taxes for households making $250,000 and under.
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| Cali_Democrat | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| unblock | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| mzmolly | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| rsweets | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| daleanime | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| jeff47 | Sep 2012 | #38 | |
| mzmolly | Sep 2012 | #39 | |
| airplaneman | Sep 2012 | #40 | |
| reflection | Sep 2012 | #52 | |
| wryter2000 | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| skeewee08 | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| Voice for Peace | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| tonybgood | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| Voice for Peace | Sep 2012 | #43 | |
| daybranch | Sep 2012 | #48 | |
| Brigid | Sep 2012 | #59 | |
| tonybgood | Oct 2012 | #60 | |
| beac | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| Liberalynn | Sep 2012 | #37 | |
| mikki35 | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| 1GirlieGirl | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| Angry Dragon | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| Panasonic | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| GreenPartyVoter | Sep 2012 | #50 | |
| robinlynne | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| Angry Dragon | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| Roland99 | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| SoapBox | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| flamingdem | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| MyOwnPeace | Sep 2012 | #51 | |
| flamingdem | Sep 2012 | #53 | |
| Blue Owl | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| randome | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| bluestateguy | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| Fuddnik | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| oldbanjo | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| donqpublic | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| elleng | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| freshwest | Sep 2012 | #46 | |
| el scorcho | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| appleannie1 | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| midnight | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| liberal N proud | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| The CCC | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| MiniMe | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| mckara | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| Liberal_Stalwart71 | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| abelenkpe | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| torotoro | Sep 2012 | #35 | |
| Javaman | Sep 2012 | #36 | |
| magic59 | Sep 2012 | #41 | |
| Plaid Adder | Sep 2012 | #42 | |
| julian09 | Sep 2012 | #44 | |
| samsingh | Sep 2012 | #45 | |
| daybranch | Sep 2012 | #47 | |
| fascisthunter | Sep 2012 | #49 | |
| lovemydog | Sep 2012 | #54 | |
| and-justice-for-all | Sep 2012 | #55 | |
| alp227 | Sep 2012 | #56 | |
| tavalon | Sep 2012 | #57 | |
| phascismisphun | Sep 2012 | #58 | |
| JoePhilly | Oct 2012 | #62 | |
| NHDEMFORLIFE | Oct 2012 | #61 | |
| Zoeisright | Oct 2012 | #63 |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:31 PM
unblock (23,762 posts)
1. aw c'mon, john! you guys have pissed off everybody else, why not go for a clean sweep?
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:33 PM
mzmolly (47,356 posts)
2. I'm far from wealthy, but I'll gladly pay more taxes so that we can pay down our debt.
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So, let all the tax cuts expire, Boehner! You'll be among the party, America holds responsible.
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Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:43 PM
daleanime (2,968 posts)
27. Agreed.
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If we spend it smarter, stopped the wars, cut the defense budget, invested in education and infrastructure, etc....
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Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:06 PM
jeff47 (7,422 posts)
38. I won't.
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On the other hand, I'll gladly pay more taxes to pay for stimulus programs to drag the economy back to "normal", thus making our "debt problem" go away all on it's own.
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Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:14 PM
airplaneman (222 posts)
40. Yeah I am with you.
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Let all the tax cuts expire!
Then increase the tax rate on those making more than $250K a year. I am also far from wealthy. I favor higher taxes in return for a secure social security, medicare, paying down the debt, and safety nets for those less fortunate than I. Cut military spending too! -Airplane |
Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:39 PM
reflection (4,844 posts)
52. I'm with you. n/t
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:33 PM
wryter2000 (33,497 posts)
3. Enjoy your speakership while you have it, bozo
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100% is agreement. Let the tax cuts expire and then let these idiots vote against tax cuts for the lower income levels.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:38 PM
skeewee08 (1,892 posts)
4. Boehner you are such a dumb***
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:38 PM
Voice for Peace (8,394 posts)
5. they can stand firm on this and watch 99% of congress go Democratic
Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #5)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:50 PM
tonybgood (152 posts)
30. I hate to rain on your parade but...
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With the congressional redistricting done after the 2010 census, it will be difficult if not impossible for that large a swing in Congress. I'll be happy if both houses of Congress return to Democratic control!!! BTW, I live in Boehner's district and he'll get re-elected here, unfortunately. It's embarrassing to drive around and see all the Boehner and Romney signs.
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Response to tonybgood (Reply #30)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:10 PM
Voice for Peace (8,394 posts)
43. but but but my parade!!!!!
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Last edited Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:13 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) anyway, it just seemed that when it becomes clearer and clearer
that the republicans are no way no how going to ask the gazillionaires to pay more -- eventually everyone else will be quite poor, and start voting differently. it's a nice parade, full of funny people and bright colors, nobody in uniforms or marching boots, just people walking backwards or frontwards, and happily if they like, or sad if they prefer, or standing still in the middle; and everyone in the parade is marching to a different drummer from the person next to him (OR her) but to everyone's astonishment there is rhythm harmony and groove. Cacophany is rare but if it occurs, everyone cheers and carries on. If there is rain, they open umbrellas and carry on. |
Response to tonybgood (Reply #30)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:36 PM
daybranch (391 posts)
48. Redistricting
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Well just help us pass Issue 2 for the independent redistricting commission and we can rid ourselves of Boehner in 2014..
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Response to tonybgood (Reply #30)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:18 AM
Brigid (10,558 posts)
59. I've heard that Boehner is running unopposed.
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Last edited Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:21 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Is it true?
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Response to Brigid (Reply #59)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:44 PM
tonybgood (152 posts)
60. Yes.
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Boehner is running against an independent but there is no Democrat running for his seat. DCCC will not put any money into this district to support an opponent. Why? Because the make-up of this district is so heavily Republican they don't feel the money would help.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:41 PM
beac (9,340 posts)
6. Thanks for reminding everyone why the GOP must lose control of BOTH houses,
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Last edited Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:56 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) you orange nincompoop!
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:42 PM
mikki35 (98 posts)
7. There it is, bold as brass
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Its little statements like this that say it all. 'EVEN IF Obama is reelected, me and my fellow Republicans will NEVER stop our fight to make him look bad.' 700,000 jobs my ass. Somebody pulled that number out of thin air, or maybe they polled their disgustingly rich campaign contributors and asked them how many would be fired if the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire? My guess? They made it up out of thin air, then added a zero or two. The ONLY thing I'm surprised about is they haven't rounded it up into the millions. They can't make it any clearer than that, people. "We don't give a fiddler's fart about the American people when we have a FAR more important job to do - have you seen the color of the man in the White House?????????" THAT'S what it's all about. And they don't care who gets thrown under the bus in their zeal to obstruct anything proposed or approved by Obama.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:43 PM
1GirlieGirl (261 posts)
8. Stop picking on the Boner!
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Last edited Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:45 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) You're gonna make him cry!
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Response to 1GirlieGirl (Reply #8)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:47 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
12. the weeping boner has spurted ......... ah spoken
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:44 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
9. GOP will be a minority party
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and trending down to a faded memory and wondered what the hell happened to the Party of Lincoln.
Also, House Congresspeople on the R side should have their wages revoked until they agree to finish pressing business before they go lie to the people some more. I forsee a massive turnover (net +45 on the House Dems) - and House retaken, and Senate restrengthened. Reid agrees to nuke the filibuster for the time being, because Obama and the Dems have the real political capital to spend and they will indeed use it wisely over R's objections. |
Response to Panasonic (Reply #9)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 08:48 PM
GreenPartyVoter (64,722 posts)
50. Hope so!
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:44 PM
robinlynne (15,170 posts)
10. That's what we all said a year ago.....
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:45 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
11. The republicans have already voted for a tax increase
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they voted to let the tax cuts expire .............
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:50 PM
Roland99 (36,499 posts)
13. Tax cuts have been in place for a DECADE!! Where the F*** are the jobs, Bonehead?!
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:50 PM
SoapBox (5,820 posts)
14. FU Tan Man...
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Gawd...I hate this Orange Freak.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:52 PM
flamingdem (22,701 posts)
15. What do we do to traitors these days? nt
Response to flamingdem (Reply #15)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 08:49 PM
MyOwnPeace (209 posts)
51. Er.......
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Nothing! (see: Bush; Cheney; Rumsfeld)
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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #51)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:42 PM
flamingdem (22,701 posts)
53. true dat
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):
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:53 PM
Blue Owl (8,510 posts)
16. Impotence and Incompetence
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n/t
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:53 PM
randome (12,687 posts)
17. The DNC needs to blast the airwaves with this!
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We need a majority in the House to stop the stalemate!
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:53 PM
bluestateguy (40,060 posts)
18. So then off the cliff we go
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and a big cut for the Pentagon.
Those taxes are going up no matter what. It's only a question of on whom. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:55 PM
Fuddnik (4,438 posts)
19. Arrest them all for treason.
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They are deliberately harming the country.
I don't say this lightly, but this willful destruction of our country has to start somewhere. |
Response to Fuddnik (Reply #19)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:50 PM
oldbanjo (676 posts)
29. They should have been arrested three years ago.
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:13 PM
donqpublic (155 posts)
20. Can you imagine...
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The tears on his orange pillow. Crying himself to sleep after his night-time whiskey-sours (5 of them).
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:15 PM
elleng (40,530 posts)
21. LETS GIVE PRESIDENT OBAMA A CONGRESS HE CAN WORK WITH!
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:15 PM
el scorcho (17 posts)
22. Get out the vote
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Problem: GOP is intent on bankrupting the country.
Solution: Get out the vote for Democratic candidates in congress. Give Obama a majority in the house and senate. Winning the white house alone is not enough. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:22 PM
appleannie1 (2,985 posts)
23. In 2 years you will be out of a job John. But you don't have to worry about being in the 47% crowd.
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:32 PM
midnight (23,447 posts)
25. Sounds like Boehner is using blackmail...
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if the rich don't continue to get their tax cuts....
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:38 PM
liberal N proud (43,717 posts)
26. Is America sick of these cry babies rich bastards yet?
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Talk about sucking off the government teat.
They do nothing for this nation but suck the rest of us dry. Who builds this nation?, the middle class and working poor. That's who. Who funds the building of this nation? The working public and the rich don't work, their money does it for them. I for one am so fucking sick of the rich sucking everything out of business and the government while calling everyone else moochers. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:43 PM
The CCC (78 posts)
28. John Boehner: GOP Won't Agree To Raise Taxes On Wealthy, Even If Obama Wins Reelection
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This is exactly why we need to vote out any Republican from any public office or any position of trust for at least the next 100 years. Just to undo some of the incalculable damage they have done to this country.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:11 PM
MiniMe (13,668 posts)
31. Interesting, they had the opposite in The Washington Post this morning
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GOP retreat on taxes likely if Obama wins
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/gop-retreat-on-taxes-likely-if-obama-wins/2012/09/20/49948828-0330-11e2-9b24-ff730c7f6312_story.html By Lori Montgomery and Paul Kane, Published: September 20 Senior Republicans say they will be forced to retreat on taxes if President Obama wins a second term in November, clearing the biggest obstacle to a deal with Democrats to defuse a year-end budget bomb that threatens to rock the U.S. economy Republicans have long resisted tax increases of any kind. But taxes are a major battleground in the campaign between Obama and Republican Mitt Romney, Capitol Hill veterans say, and the victor will be able to claim a mandate for his policies. “This is a referendum on taxes,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), a senior member of the House Budget Committee. “If the president wins reelection, taxes are going up” for the nation’s wealthiest households, and “there’s not a lot we can do about that.” With Election Day still more than six weeks away and the president holding a thin lead in national polls, Republicans say they are not conceding that an Obama victory is the likely outcome. But they are beginning to plan for that possibility. More at the link |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:23 PM
mckara (1,431 posts)
32. Let's Hope the Next Speaker's Name will be Nancy!!!!
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:40 PM
Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)
33. Let all the tax cuts expire and then draft legislation that only cuts taxes for households making
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$250,000 and under.
Legislation already passed the Senate. The House Republicans are sitting on it, of course. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:43 PM
abelenkpe (7,120 posts)
34. Boehner reminds democrats why it's important to win the house
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And senate along with the presidency.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:46 PM
torotoro (96 posts)
35. I just hope Obama wont cave and agree to Boehner to keep the tax cuts for some lame compremise
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I am still upset over the grand bargaining that Obama is desparate to do but if he even cabves to Bohener on this and we keep the tax cuts for the rich in place then he is no better than them. Enough with these stupid tax cuts. Let them expire. Bohener can go suck a fat one.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:54 PM
Javaman (40,626 posts)
36. looks as if boner boy just threw in the towel. nt
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:18 PM
magic59 (429 posts)
41. Well, I guess its time to vote the 47% GOP out of office
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They are, as Romney put it, a bunch of freeloaders that refuse to work while taking government money.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:28 PM
Plaid Adder (5,515 posts)
42. Country to Boehner: Guess We Need Fewer Republicans In Congress Then
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n/t
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Response to Plaid Adder (Reply #42)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:29 PM
julian09 (1,435 posts)
44. In lame duck session, losers will still be there to cause their mischief til new congress in Jan/ 13
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they will have nothing to lose and Boehner knows it. He has no control over them, what could help is the defeat of Cantor.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:06 PM
samsingh (10,339 posts)
45. more reason to vote these self absorbed ass wipes out
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:33 PM
daybranch (391 posts)
47. Soon
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Boehner is currently prottected by GOP gerrymandering in the state of Ohio. We have succeeded in getting a constitutional amendment for an independent redistricting commission on the ballot. With this commission of 4 republicans, 4 democrats , and 4 independents whose goal is to make each district contain about the same number of democrats as republicans and therefore make them competitive, we will be able to get rid of the crazy teabaggers and Boehner himself.We must vote for the commission to make our representatives, republicans or democrat, accountable.
In any case you should expect to see about 4 to 6 republicans at least fail to win reelection to the House in 2104Please vote to approve Issue 2 if you want an accountable government. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 07:37 PM
fascisthunter (28,608 posts)
49. GOOD! Then you will continue to lose, for being so Transparently in the pockets of the wealthy
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you fucking tools!
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 12:12 AM
lovemydog (1,574 posts)
54. That's the work republicans do -
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protect the ultra rich.
Hopefully more republican voters will recognize this and start voting for democrats. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 01:15 AM
and-justice-for-all (14,763 posts)
55. Doesn't matter boner...
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you about to lose your majority.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 01:19 AM
alp227 (20,447 posts)
56. Hmm, no one has pointed out Norquist yet?
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Remember his quote, "I just want to shrink (government) down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:52 AM
tavalon (25,684 posts)
57. Soon to be ex speaker Boehner can cry me a river
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That Oompa Loompa has already sailed.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:05 AM
phascismisphun (5 posts)
58. This will work for him
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The Bush/Obama Tax Cut, yes Obama OWNS part of it now when he caved in to them a few years back and extened them, will expire and the GOP will turn around and blame the black guy for raising thier taxes. Now all the GOP has to do is obstruct for 2-4 years and they get a GOP sweep in 16.
In the unlikely event the GOP has a few problems with obstruction the Koch brothers and their ilk will be more then happy to buy a few more of the DINO's that currently have a (D) after thier name who can ALWAYS be counted on to protect the 1%. |
Response to phascismisphun (Reply #58)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:16 PM
JoePhilly (15,996 posts)
62. Wrong.
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Obama can let the Bush tax cuts expire. And the GOP can "blame Obama" ... who gives a shit. Obama can't run for a 3rd term.
Which means attacking him does NOTHING. Here is what happens. Win or lose, Obama lets them ALL expire. Minutes later, the Dems introduce a bill that retro actively reinstates ONLY the cuts for those in the middle class. And then the Dems DARE the GOP (and the few remaining blue dogs) to oppose that middle class TAX CUT. Check mate. |
Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:53 PM
NHDEMFORLIFE (317 posts)
61. How have those Bush tax cuts helped the economy?
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I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but the one question no Republican can artfully answer is the one in my subject line. If these tax cuts were designed to fuel the economy and create jobs, what happened in Bush's final year and why didn't they prevent the economy's freefall and the lose of millions of jobs?
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:17 PM
Zoeisright (7,832 posts)
63. Then we'll have to do it without you, asshole.
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Slink away under your rock, you orange cockroach.
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