Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:33 PM

Purveyor (13,202 posts)

Egyptian Warrants Issued For Terry Jones, Coptic Filmmaker

Source: Associated Press

Published: September 18, 2012
CAIRO --

Egypt's general prosecutor has issued arrest warrants for Gainesville pastor Terry Jones, seven Egyptian Coptic Christians and referred them to trial on charges linked to an anti-Islam film that has sparked riots across the Muslim world.

One of the accused is Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, an Egyptian Copt living in southern California and believed to be behind the film.

Jones, who has said he was contacted by the filmmaker to promote the video, as well as Morris Sadek, a conservative Coptic Christian in the U.S. who pushed the video on his website, are also among those charged.

The connection of the other five to the film was not immediately clear.

Read more: http://www2.tbo.com/lifestyles/breaking-news/2012/sep/18/egyptian-warrants-issued-for-terry-jones-filmmaker-ar-504556/

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Egyptian Warrants Issued For Terry Jones, Coptic Filmmaker (Original post)	Purveyor	Sep 2012	OP
No way. No extradition for "blasphemy". I hope the State Department makes	LeftinOH	Sep 2012	#1
Agreed! Blasphemy is not illegal in the US /nt	Bragi	Sep 2012	#5
And if they TRY to impose religious law on us, we will shoot them with guns that	jtuck004	Sep 2012	#17
Why would they do that, though?	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#18
I never thought I would be defending Jones, but I absolutely agree with you. nt	silvershadow	Sep 2012	#27
I doubt anyone actually thinks the guy will be extradited.	octothorpe	Sep 2012	#69
I have to agree	Canuckistanian	Sep 2012	#86
I guess if the US can arrest Swedish nationals outside of this country	dixiegrrrrl	Sep 2012	#2
Who was that? nt	hack89	Sep 2012	#23
Assange	dixiegrrrrl	Sep 2012	#26
America hasn't arrested Assange	hack89	Sep 2012	#28
That's what they've got the UK for.	nichomachus	Sep 2012	#52
The UK has had Assange for two years	hack89	Sep 2012	#57
Assange is not a Swedish National	King_David	Sep 2012	#54
Sigh.	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#72
"we" are?	fascisthunter	Sep 2012	#87
egypt has every right to kill them with drones..	frylock	Sep 2012	#79
So, by that "logic" al Qaeda is free to send a team of operatives after Obama.	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2012	#92
take it up with whoever it was that wrote the policy	frylock	Sep 2012	#93
I'm guessing that would be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States	Nuclear Unicorn	Sep 2012	#95
Let's hope that he thought far enough ahead before he signed it then.	Nihil	Sep 2012	#96
It seems to me	Frances	Sep 2012	#3
What if the person shouting thought there was a fire?	Bragi	Sep 2012	#4
I imagine there are ways to alert people to a perceived fire-danger	LanternWaste	Sep 2012	#6
Hate speech, not blasphemy. Don't try to minimize it.	Ash_F	Sep 2012	#61
A truly American value	Bragi	Sep 2012	#62
It makes you wonder if every other first world country is wrong...	Ash_F	Sep 2012	#76
S do I understand you correctly?	Bragi	Sep 2012	#82
No you didn't	Ash_F	Sep 2012	#89
Blasphemy is not legal obviously in other countries. We generally don't consider	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#63
An important distinction	Bragi	Sep 2012	#68
I wasn't referring to America's laws. I was referring to Egypt's laws.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#85
Seems to me your are wrong	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#7
Yes, but they've not been debunked in this thread	Bragi	Sep 2012	#8
And of course there are new embellishments on each thread	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#10
If the film makers made the movie with the intetnion of causing riots and...	Agnosticsherbet	Sep 2012	#13
Not quite so...	Bragi	Sep 2012	#15
My point was not their state of mind.	Agnosticsherbet	Sep 2012	#58
You might want to review some of the other posts on the USCS before you make that claim	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#21
he did not break a U. S. law. We can't help what fanatics in other countries deem a crime . I hate	demosincebirth	Sep 2012	#32
If they burned our bibles would we be fanatics...the	movonne	Sep 2012	#55
I don't think so. Fundies might get their shorts in a knot...a guy might throw a brick at mosque,	demosincebirth	Sep 2012	#60
It's not even mumbling fire in an open field with almost no one around.	hughee99	Sep 2012	#33
Really? Mocking someone's Sky Elf equals "Fire!" in a crowded room with limited exits?	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#73
Except that makes the other attendees very much afraid for their lives	4th law of robotics	Sep 2012	#75
Even bigots have free speech rights.	iandhr	Sep 2012	#9
Unfortunately...	SoapBox	Sep 2012	#11
Short of calling for violence	Missycim	Sep 2012	#36
This is like the Assange case	cpwm17	Sep 2012	#12
bullies of Islam doing what they do best nt	msongs	Sep 2012	#14
I'm personally more concerned with the bullies of Christ right here at home.	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#16
The risks are no where near the same	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#20
Not necessarily true...	rexcat	Sep 2012	#30
That is why I focus my weekend firearms classes on GLBTs and women	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#39
Not at the hands of the State. Risk from criminals and haters is universal.	Bluenorthwest	Sep 2012	#78
And...	rexcat	Sep 2012	#83
Inorite!	JoeyT	Sep 2012	#48
There is a world of difference and quantifiable risk between Government laws and illegal actions	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#50
Filing for an arrest warrant in accordance with the laws of their own nation?	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#19
It's fine as Kabuki theatre	Bragi	Sep 2012	#37
I think it's more of an "arrest these guys if they visit" thing	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#38
It also shows the "only the radical fringe are upset" meme is a lie	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#40
A similar situation exists in germany, Professor	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#43
Germany is considering banning it, not arrest warrants from what I have read	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#53
Terry Jones will not be allowed into the country, from what I understand	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#64
I have not read that, but even if true, it is still not a rioting mob	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#65
What's your point?	Bragi	Sep 2012	#70
You said Germany would arrest them if they tried to enter the country	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#97
I would love to see a Red Notice from Interpol on Jones	Panasonic	Sep 2012	#22
How would that help anything?	Bragi	Sep 2012	#24
I highly doubt Terry Jones wants to go to the Middle East.	dkf	Sep 2012	#31
I am waiting for the Obama administration to react	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#25
I'm waiting for the administration to even say the words "free speech"	Bragi	Sep 2012	#29
I think that SEC of STATE Clinton addressed the matter.	julian09	Sep 2012	#34
I don't think she did	Bragi	Sep 2012	#35
Here you go:	karynnj	Sep 2012	#44
Thanks	Bragi	Sep 2012	#56
Not the ones I have read	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#41
Funny thing...	Scootaloo	Sep 2012	#42
I'm not sure the muslim rioters would listen or care	Marrah_G	Sep 2012	#46
That's a good point...	Bragi	Sep 2012	#49
If you did explain to them they would not understand "free speech." They live by the Koran	demosincebirth	Sep 2012	#59
Why the hell would the president need to "react" to a completely symbolic gesture?	Blue_Tires	Sep 2012	#47
Because it is a real threat to US citizens.	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#51
What "threat" is this? Is Egypt demanding extradition, or else a declaration of war?	Blue_Tires	Sep 2012	#66
The warrants did not happen without the concurrence of the highest level of the Egyptian gov	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#67
But ultimately harmless...Not worth the paper it's printed on...	Blue_Tires	Sep 2012	#71
I think you conclusion about harmless is premature	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#81
fatwa =/= arrest warrant	Blue_Tires	Sep 2012	#90
It is still a price on his head/death threat ordered by the then Iranian head of state	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#91
LOL good luck with that	Marrah_G	Sep 2012	#45
If your religion requires that you arrest people for blasphemy then	4th law of robotics	Sep 2012	#74
I'd forgotten about the Florida Terry Jones	Ken Burch	Sep 2012	#77
Was the film maker an American citizen or was he still an Egyptian citizen?	smirkymonkey	Sep 2012	#80
Egypt has no jurisdiction	davidn3600	Sep 2012	#84
stupid... if your belief is that strong, no ridicule should incite you...	fascisthunter	Sep 2012	#88
This is why the US has the 1st Amendment	sakabatou	Sep 2012	#94
Maybe Egypt is planning an Eichmann Extradition for these clowns	Tom Ripley	Sep 2012	#98

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:38 PM

LeftinOH (4,467 posts)

1. No way. No extradition for "blasphemy". I hope the State Department makes

this perfectly clear. They can respond by making Jesus Christ look like a monster or by burning all the Bibles they want, but they don't get to impose religious law on us.

Egyptian Warrants Issued For Terry Jones, Coptic Filmmaker

1. No way. No extradition for "blasphemy". I hope the State Department makes

5. Agreed! Blasphemy is not illegal in the US /nt

17. And if they TRY to impose religious law on us, we will shoot them with guns that

18. Why would they do that, though?

27. I never thought I would be defending Jones, but I absolutely agree with you. nt

69. I doubt anyone actually thinks the guy will be extradited.

86. I have to agree

2. I guess if the US can arrest Swedish nationals outside of this country

23. Who was that? nt

26. Assange

28. America hasn't arrested Assange

52. That's what they've got the UK for.

57. The UK has had Assange for two years

54. Assange is not a Swedish National

72. Sigh.

87. "we" are?

79. egypt has every right to kill them with drones..

92. So, by that "logic" al Qaeda is free to send a team of operatives after Obama.

93. take it up with whoever it was that wrote the policy

95. I'm guessing that would be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States

96. Let's hope that he thought far enough ahead before he signed it then.

3. It seems to me

4. What if the person shouting thought there was a fire?

6. I imagine there are ways to alert people to a perceived fire-danger

61. Hate speech, not blasphemy. Don't try to minimize it.

62. A truly American value

76. It makes you wonder if every other first world country is wrong...

82. S do I understand you correctly?

89. No you didn't

63. Blasphemy is not legal obviously in other countries. We generally don't consider

68. An important distinction

85. I wasn't referring to America's laws. I was referring to Egypt's laws.

7. Seems to me your are wrong

8. Yes, but they've not been debunked in this thread

10. And of course there are new embellishments on each thread

13. If the film makers made the movie with the intetnion of causing riots and...

15. Not quite so...

58. My point was not their state of mind.

21. You might want to review some of the other posts on the USCS before you make that claim

32. he did not break a U. S. law. We can't help what fanatics in other countries deem a crime . I hate

55. If they burned our bibles would we be fanatics...the

60. I don't think so. Fundies might get their shorts in a knot...a guy might throw a brick at mosque,

33. It's not even mumbling fire in an open field with almost no one around.

73. Really? Mocking someone's Sky Elf equals "Fire!" in a crowded room with limited exits?

75. Except that makes the other attendees very much afraid for their lives

9. Even bigots have free speech rights.

11. Unfortunately...

36. Short of calling for violence

12. This is like the Assange case

14. bullies of Islam doing what they do best nt

16. I'm personally more concerned with the bullies of Christ right here at home.

20. The risks are no where near the same

30. Not necessarily true...

39. That is why I focus my weekend firearms classes on GLBTs and women

78. Not at the hands of the State. Risk from criminals and haters is universal.

83. And...

48. Inorite!

50. There is a world of difference and quantifiable risk between Government laws and illegal actions

19. Filing for an arrest warrant in accordance with the laws of their own nation?

37. It's fine as Kabuki theatre

38. I think it's more of an "arrest these guys if they visit" thing

40. It also shows the "only the radical fringe are upset" meme is a lie

43. A similar situation exists in germany, Professor

53. Germany is considering banning it, not arrest warrants from what I have read

64. Terry Jones will not be allowed into the country, from what I understand

65. I have not read that, but even if true, it is still not a rioting mob

70. What's your point?

97. You said Germany would arrest them if they tried to enter the country

22. I would love to see a Red Notice from Interpol on Jones

24. How would that help anything?

31. I highly doubt Terry Jones wants to go to the Middle East.

25. I am waiting for the Obama administration to react

29. I'm waiting for the administration to even say the words "free speech"

34. I think that SEC of STATE Clinton addressed the matter.

35. I don't think she did

44. Here you go:

56. Thanks

41. Not the ones I have read

42. Funny thing...