Morning Joe On The Entire Muslim World: 'They Hate Us Because of Their Religion

Throw some lighter fluid on that fire.

The tough talk has begun which can only mean one thing: Joey is seriously pondering a run for the crown.

Some do, some don't, some don't give a shit, cause they got other issues. (like feeding their families)
What an incredible fool. This talk disgusts me. Makes him as bad as them..

I thought it was just an expression.

But that is only half of why they hate us..They hate us because we are on their land..

Douche.

i think that's how you spell it

he listed 3 things, 1 of which is Islam. there are more reasons, of course, but his summation - that FORCING the muslim world to change to our liking is naive is in fact correct. it has been the flaw in our policy since i can remember.

"every" street vendor is hyperbole, of course, but that's shorthand. i'm putting this in the broken clock category.

Until people grow up and grow out of it.

"They hate us because they hate us."

Apparently he thinks the U.S. has never done anything in the Middle East that should raise eyebrows.

...the reason they hate us is because we're over there killing them?!?!?!

George Bush used to say that "they hate(d) us for our freedom." So he took away our freedom, and that solved that. I guess then the RW had to come up with another reason for them to hate us. This was the best they could do while they overlook the obvious one, I guess....

sure, some do, and many got a right to hate the U.S. But why throw gas on the fire???

Why???What is the point??...Joe took this line on purpose...planned, hatred...
.................................I wonder who gave him the orders to pour gas on the fire...last week, did he say something negative on Romney???so now pour gas on the fire??
........................great more gas on the fire..think about it...

entire region for the last 140 years.

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, about four times as many as the entire population of the U.S. If all of them actually hated us we'd have a lot more trouble than an occasional riot at an embassy. And, by the way, there have been demonstrations at American embassies for many decades. There's an interesting article about this here: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/the-history-of-muslim-anti-western-protests-is-older-than-obama-or-bush-drones-or-israel/262462/

The short and oversimplified explanation is colonialism, not religion, but a dumb fuck like Scarborough wouldn't get that; anyhow it wouldn't sell with his knuckledragger audience.

It could not have been said better. "There are1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, about four times as many as the entire of the U.S. If all of them actually hated us, we'd have a lot more trouble than an occasional riot at an embassy."

MJ sometimes has good guests, but usually just their regular GOP apologisers. I usually change the channel to "Escape to Chimp Eden" and "Oragutan Island," where the primates are lots more interesting and entertaining.

That's like how we thought about our Native Americans in the 19th Century and just stole the land they lived on for maybe thousands of years in North America.

Many years ago I was in the Middle East and went shopping in Muslim owned stores and could not be treated better. In many stores I received a free coffee and the owners were very nice. Propaganda is very ugly no where it is spewed.

Intolerance about others will always be trumped by cooperation and understanding.

I am sure that a lot of this anti-Americanism is started in Muslim Schools at a very early age and what these students are receiving very huge amounts of distorted facts. We were forced fed this same type of stuff about the Japanese Americans right after Pearl Harbor.

A xenophobe in a country founding upon immigration---which makes him un-American.

makes a little since he reversed two times over.

Are you paying attention, MSNBC staff web surfers? I've watched this show for years, and even defended it as being at least a semi-balanced forum. I've even been ridiculed for my support of Asshole Joe's clown show on web forums. But you're done, as far as I'm concerned. Joe's apparent 2016 election bid has overtaken the show.

I think you need BIGGER American flags flying in the background. Maybe a bald eagle should swoop in every now and then, and perch on Joe's shoulder. You have turned into Colbert...except Colbert knows he is parody. You are being serious. A serious joke.

If Mika took her designer dress off and sat next to Joe naked for the whole show, I promise you...I would only watch it for a little while. Maybe up until you re-run everything at 8:00. But I'd hate myself for it!

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and you'd simply have a female FOX reporter with a better education.

Actually, you'd have less than a female Fox reporter since the FOX reporters actually express an opinion from time to time (wrongheaded as that opinion may be).

I've defended the show from time to time as well but it appears that I usually caught it when Joe was having a lucid moment and Mika discovered she had a voicebox and a backbone.

Today's show was pretty close to a Rubicon moment as to whether I decide to bother to watch it again before the election season is over.

For him to ask every single person in the Muslim world if the "liked us' or "hated us".

She shouldn't be associating herself with remarks like that.

A couple of hundred here, a thousand there, and even their own neighbors are telling them to chill out. Joe, you want the world to judge us by a KKK march? Or maybe just what Rush and Beck have to say?

FUNDAMENTALIST ATTITUDES TOWARD OTHER MONOTHEISTIC FAITHS

“Jews and Muslims who don’t accept Jesus will burn in Hell.” – Johnny Hart, cartoonist and creator of the popular syndicated newspaper comic strip B.C. (and co-creator of the equally popular strip The Wizard of Id), on the unfortunate eternal fate of those non-Christian fellow monotheists who chose (or were simply born into) the wrong monotheism

“Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I’m telling you, you’re not my brother and you’re not my sister.” – Robert Bentley, governor of Alabama, on his views regarding the second-class (or worse) status of all “unsaved” citizens of the state he governs

“With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew. For how in the world can God hear the prayer of a man who says that Jesus Christ is not the true Messiah? It is blasphemy. It may be politically expedient, but no one can pray unless he prays through the name of Jesus Christ.” — Bailey Smith, a past president of the Southern Baptist Convention (the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S.), on how Jews literally don’t have a prayer

“I do not believe that God answers the prayer of any unredeemed Gentile or Jew” – Jerry Falwell

“Islam was founded by Muhammad, a demon-possessed pedophile….” — Jerry Vines, another past president of the Southern Baptist Convention (the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S.) and former pastor of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, FL (at the time, the third largest Southern Baptist church in the U.S.)

“These people are crazed fanatics, and I want to say it now: I believe it’s motivated by demonic power. It is Satanic and it’s time we recognize what we’re dealing with… by the way, Islam is not a religion of peace.” – Pat Robertson’s blanket condemnation of the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims

“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.” – Ann Coulter on how to resolve tensions between Islam and the West, immediately post-9/11

I've heard Scarborough list the regular drone attacks, the support for dictators and other valid geo-political factors as the reasons for the distrust the Arab world has for the United States on his program several times over the years.

Unless I've just happened to catch every rare moment of clarity he's shown over the years this outburst is the first time I've ever heard him do this blanket "they just hate us because they hate us" meltdown.

First, they don't all hate us, Joe. Oh, sure there are probably some who do but most are just like the rest of us on planet earth. We want a decent, safe place to live and raise our family, enough to eat and maybe a little measure of happiness. We don't sit around hating the rich or envying their good fortune. Some of us call out the ones who cheat and walk over the rest of us to get their goods, but for the most part we don't think about them. That applies to folks in the middle east, I'd be willing to bet.

And Second: for the ones who do have a bone to pick with the USA, do ya think it might possibly have to do with our policies that have brought guns and war to their doorsteps? Do you think burying your dear ones way before their time due to ANOTHER country coming in to "help you" get freedom will in any way make them grateful to us? They might be justified in feeling just a tad peevish about all of our help.

Husband does not usually watch MJ but was in the room this morning when this dialog was going on. He asked me, "What is Mika's job on this show?" I told him evidently it is to sigh, roll her eyes and every now and then go on a rant about high fructose corn syrup in our soft drinks. Or Fat Burgers. Oh, and this morning she was gushing over the "fashion segment" on the show. Obviously gave her chills......

This show, which claims to be serious, is truly a joke. Joe needs to just close down shop and get on with running in 2016. That ought to be real fun. And I mean that.

Hate. The fact is that they have killed more of their own based on hate alone than we have in any of the wars that have been fought there.

One cannot deny that fact that they cannot even get along with each other.

I spent six weeks in the Kingdom of Jordan over the summer studying Arabic. Everyone there was super nice. The teachers at the school went out of their way to make sure they had a program for my beginner level. (That was a big deal. They were only set up for level 3 & 4 and my program did not bother telling them that they were sending a near-beginner.) Also, the towns people were very friendly, often asking in English where I was from and saying "welcome, welcome" when I said "America."

Suffice it to say, I did my best to be nice to them, which was not difficult considering how friendly and open they were. The Jordanians understood that Americans are not our government (even if we don't). Still, some were gratified when I said I did not vote for Bush and that I intended to vote for Obama again. Likewise, they seemed happy when I recognized the faces on their money and asked about specific aspects of their culture.

And that is the point. America has not been nice to Arab countries, being the successors to British imperialists. We have supported tyrants and overthrown liberal governments in the name of fighting communism and promoting oil export. Apparently those governments and their clerical supporters used these facts to support a propaganda claiming that America wants to undermine their culture--especially Islam. So, when North Africans or Middle East Muslims see something offensive to Islam coming from America, they take it as proof that the conspiracy theory is right.

To be clear, no movie can ever be justification for murderous violence. Some Muslims do hate the West because of their religion and they need to realize that the whole world does not revere Mohammed and has no duty to shut up about their lack of reverence. Having said that, it is important to remember our imperial past (and present) when speaking of Muslim anger.

So, the idea that Muslims hate us is a plain lie. Second, to the degree they do or are angry, it is as much about imperialism as it is about Islam.

....their Right Wing has infiltrated their religion and teaches that hating the people the Right Wing hates is a way of honoring God.

This is a reflection on the whole "American Exceptionalism" thing.

People who are so blindly patriotic that they insists on unquestioning confirmation of our awesomeness are almost incapable of understanding why other people might not like us. It simply does not compute.

Therefore, anyone not liking us must be flawed. They have to be defective since we are so awesome that it is inconceivable that we have done anything to be disliked.

Meanwhile, anyone suggesting otherwise is part of the "blame America first" crowd.

After decades of western supported dictators and wars, it boggles the mind that anyone could wonder why SOME of them hate us.

Seriously, fuck that guy.

that the term does not seem to fit. About a half a million people total watch his squeezings, the vast majority of Americans have no idea who he is.

that so many U.S. conservatives are morons. "If you're so rich, how come you ain't smart?"

They hate us for our water-boarding...
They hate us for keep the Shah on the throne for thirty years...
They hate us for Mubarek, Saddam, and the Saudi Royal Family...
They hate us for Exxon, Shell, Aramco, and a host of multi-national corporations...

Dumb ass...

... scattered throughout the country.

who was fired from MSNBC in 2003 for the infamous "get AIDS and die" comment:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101758473

Most likely joe will just make a mild apology and won't have to self suspend like ed schultz, who called Laura Ingraham a "talk slut" last year.

Whether Ingraham or Sandra Fluke. Schultz could've called Ingraham "Lady Blah Blah" or something funnier.

And she does that for money. Slut isn't strong enough for her.

Sandra Fluke doesn't promote the death of Americans at all.

someone educate him on this one please! dope.